despite it all, i am against instant replay, and the italians were called crybabies for their press, so the antagonism towards them very much like for the english, had more to do with their media
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[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (50 Viewers)
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despite it all, i am against instant replay, and the italians were called crybabies for their press, so the antagonism towards them very much like for the english, had more to do with their media
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Like I said: horrible tackle on Zambrotta, Del Piero elbowed in the face, Maldini kicked in the head. All violent actions. The penalty was a bit soft too, but I'll let Korea have it.
Yes, Tommasi was past the goalie and true, the ball wasn't in the back of the net. But how likely was a miss going to be? He's in front of an open goal. Even if you don't count is a goal, it was a huge call.
Yes, Tommasi was past the goalie and true, the ball wasn't in the back of the net. But how likely was a miss going to be? He's in front of an open goal. Even if you don't count is a goal, it was a huge call.
It doesn't matter if they went down 2-0 in the first half and got fucked over due to that. If the referees decision prevented you from winning the game, you HAVE to be angry at the refereeing. There's no two ways about it. He denied you a win. He denied you all 3 points!
Do you really care about a great performance over a win? Would you prefer to choose a great performance rather than a win? Would you prefer to watch them play a not so good game but still win, or would you watch them play well enough so that you praise them in your performance ratings and see them go out of the tourney?
Forget about rating the performance and predicting their progress with such a performance in the future. What can't you just admit that the US deserved to win, but they were robbed by the ref? Why don't you post that? Everyone knows that's what happened! Why do you seem to deny it?
Do you really care about a great performance over a win? Would you prefer to choose a great performance rather than a win? Would you prefer to watch them play a not so good game but still win, or would you watch them play well enough so that you praise them in your performance ratings and see them go out of the tourney?
Forget about rating the performance and predicting their progress with such a performance in the future. What can't you just admit that the US deserved to win, but they were robbed by the ref? Why don't you post that? Everyone knows that's what happened! Why do you seem to deny it?
That should be enough. The Koreans deserved to have at least a player or 2 sent off. The elbow on DP, and the blatant kick in the head in the penalty area, not to forget the kick in the thigh for Zambrotta(maybe it just deserves a yellow, but it still wasn't called).
Despite watching that, if you still think that Italy had only 2 bad calls, then you are utterly biased!
Sure, I'm not happy about the decision. It was a clear goal. But you know what? I can't change that fact. Our team can't change the fact. Myself or others complaining about the decision when, we really should have won 4-2 if Donovan would have put the first half chance away, is redundant.
Now, what we CAN change about this situation is learning from our mistakes, making sure we don't concede a goal or two right after kickoff. This part of the performance we can change, and HAVE TO change, if we want to go somewhere at tournaments like these. This is what I would rather focus on -- providing constructive criticism so that we don't have to rely on refereeing decisions to get us through a match. We NEED to be better.
This sort of leechfuckism [sic], as in blaming the refs constantly or thinking you can get by on nonexistent effort, is what pisses me off the most about folks around here. And it's mostly because of post-match discussion after Juventus hits the field.
There is no free lunch, unless you're an Inter fan.
Looks like that Torres dude is getting a lot of praise, while I thought he was pretty bad, talented as he is (or seems to be at least).
Quickly reading through this thread, it also amazes me that Bradley (the coach, not the player) gets so much criticism. He read the game quite well if you ask me & acted accordingly.
And a quick question: Does anyone here think Dempsey should have been shown the red card after 20 seconds (elbow)? The pundits on Belgian television were all convinced that he should have been sent off, which would have been extremely debatable if you ask me.
Quickly reading through this thread, it also amazes me that Bradley (the coach, not the player) gets so much criticism. He read the game quite well if you ask me & acted accordingly.
And a quick question: Does anyone here think Dempsey should have been shown the red card after 20 seconds (elbow)? The pundits on Belgian television were all convinced that he should have been sent off, which would have been extremely debatable if you ask me.
Sorry. Didn't check that cos my PC speaker was muted.
