[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (46 Viewers)

JuveJay

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i am sure they do but i can guarantee you over 90% of italians would mess that one up, but yes europeans would be more more apt at that because of familiarity and proximity, and if it's a name not familiar they will mess up just like for the espn dudes
They shouldn't do, seeing as there are many Italians with German names, but it really depends on the individual.

I don't think many could come close to English commentators for mistakes, maybe Americans, from what I have heard.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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They shouldn't do, seeing as there are many Italians with German names, but it really depends on the individual.

I don't think many could come close to English commentators for mistakes, maybe Americans, from what I have heard.
Oddly enough the RAI does a better job than the BBC when it comes to this :D.
 

swag

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Man, what a shit match. I didn't expect much out of Portugal, but I didn't expect Sven to opt for the tight-marking, high-pressing match and the ref to completely look the other way on so many late tackles and arm-grabs. So what we got was a niggling foul-fest.

Given that this WC has been dominated so far by early mistakes, neither team did anything to make a mistake. So we got a really weak match.

Coentrão was my player of the match, however. A good left back at Portugal? Unheard of. But outside of letting someone get in front of him in the box once as a backup assignment, he was excellent in letting nobody get past him or fake him out.

Always a bad sign when a defender is your MoM.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Man, what a shit match. I didn't expect much out of Portugal, but I didn't expect Sven to opt for the tight-marking, high-pressing match and the ref to completely look the other way on so many late tackles and arm-grabs. So what we got was a niggling foul-fest.

Given that this WC has been dominated so far by early mistakes, neither team did anything to make a mistake. So we got a really weak match.

Coentrão was my player of the match, however. A good left back at Portugal? Unheard of. But outside of letting someone get in front of him in the box once as a backup assignment, he was excellent in letting nobody get past him or fake him out.

Always a bad sign when a defender is your MoM.
:howler:

Imagine an Italy fan saying the same, lads.
 

Bjerknes

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Man, what a shit match. I didn't expect much out of Portugal, but I didn't expect Sven to opt for the tight-marking, high-pressing match and the ref to completely look the other way on so many late tackles and arm-grabs. So what we got was a niggling foul-fest.
It was mostly a flop-fest by Ronaldo and Liedson, from what I saw.
 
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They actually do a pretty good job. They even do a good job when pronouncing the names of Belgian players. It's not 100%, but they come very very close. As for the Belgian commentators, they pronounce all the Italian names right, except Criscito (they put the emphasis wrong).
I'm confused about pronouncing his name too. Is it "Cri-si-to" or "Cris-chi-to" like the commentator on ESPN said last night?
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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They shouldn't do, seeing as there are many Italians with German names, but it really depends on the individual.

I don't think many could come close to English commentators for mistakes, maybe Americans, from what I have heard.
It comes with the territory and the objective needs of the society. A guy in the US can be famous world wide, travel a lot and still won't need to learn any foreign language. English is enough for him to get by in every corner of the world. A guy from Belgium can be familiar with the Germanic and the Romance languages, easily learn them and pronounce them correctly. A guy in Switzerland will probably speak German, Italian and French, easily learn English or Spanish too. For me Italian was very easy to learn, I learn English since a kid and my native language allows me to easily learn the Slavic languages.

Yes, Seven is 100% correct that a professional commentator should work on pronouncing the names correctly, or at least to be close, but I would give an excuse to an English or American commentator. Afterall he starts with a big disadvantage when put against a Belgian or a Slav.
 

swag

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It was mostly a flop-fest by Ronaldo and Liedson, from what I saw.
Both were definite flops. Ronaldo turned cry-baby too soon and showed all his bad habits before his big season at ManU: taking dives on light fouls instead of playing through them.

Liedson did little constructive with the ball. But I give him a little more slack because Portuguese forwards suck in general.

But damn, do we miss Nani.
 

swag

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And what was Sven doing making a sub at 88' while defending a corner kick? :wth: That was almost as dumb as how the Ivory Coast flubbed that last corner of their own.

Does Rnoaldo always revert to being his 19 year old self when he plays for Portugal?
Not usually. He's been very ineffectual for the NT the past couple of years. But in that time at least he didn't revert to a cry-baby who fell with every touch as he did today.
 

JuveJay

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It comes with the territory and the objective needs of the society. A guy in the US can be famous world wide, travel a lot and still won't need to learn any foreign language. English is enough for him to get by in every corner of the world. A guy from Belgium can be familiar with the Germanic and the Romance languages, easily learn them and pronounce them correctly. A guy in Switzerland will probably speak German, Italian and French, easily learn English or Spanish too. For me Italian was very easy to learn, I learn English since a kid and my native language allows me to easily learn the Slavic languages.

Yes, Seven is 100% correct that a professional commentator should work on pronouncing the names correctly, or at least to be close, but I would give an excuse to an English or American commentator. Afterall he starts with a big disadvantage when put against a Belgian or a Slav.
You didn't need to explain that to me, but I appreciate the good post overall :beer:
 

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