Virginia Tech Murders (35 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,912
#1
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html

It is being reported now that 31 people have been killed by the lone gunman, making this the worst campus disaster in US history.

The gunman apparently shot somebody around 7am at a dorm, then about two hours later walked into a classroom building, chained up the doors to the complex, and started to systematically kill everybody inside. The kid had a nine mm and another sort of gun, along with all sorts of spare clips. Apparently the shooter was Asian (MSNBC) and shot himself before the police got to him.

Absolutely horrid, hope the people at Virginia Tech I know are all right. RIP to the victims.
 

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Ahmedios

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2006
5,107
#5
That's horrible.

To all the families who will face their life's hardest experience, our greatest and deepest sympathy, may they RIP.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
#7
RIP

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A list of deadly campus shootings


(AP) - A list of some fatal shootings that took place at U.S. colleges or universities in recent years. Monday's campus shooting at Virginia Tech was the deadliest in U.S. history.
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_April 16, 2007: A gunman kills 30 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Va.

_Sept. 2, 2006: Douglas W. Pennington, 49, kills himself and his two sons, Logan P. Pennington, 26, and Benjamin M. Pennington, 24, during a visit to the campus of Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, W.Va.

_Oct. 28, 2002: Failing University of Arizona Nursing College student and Gulf War veteran Robert Flores, 40, walks into an instructor's office and fatally shoots her. A few minutes later, armed with five guns, he enters one of his nursing classrooms and kills two more of his instructors before fatally shooting himself.

_Jan. 16, 2002: Graduate student Peter Odighizuwa, 42, recently dismissed from Virginia's Appalachian School of Law, returns to campus and kills the dean, a professor and a student before being tackled by students. The attack also wounds three female students.

_Aug. 28, 2000: James Easton Kelly, 36, a University of Arkansas graduate student recently dropped from a doctoral program after a decade of study and John Locke, 67, the English professor overseeing his coursework, are shot to death in an apparent murder-suicide.

_Aug. 15, 1996: Frederick Martin Davidson, 36, a graduate engineering student at San Diego State, is defending his thesis before a faculty committee when he pulls out a handgun and kills three professors.

_Nov. 1, 1991: Gang Lu, 28, a graduate student in physics from China, reportedly upset because he was passed over for an academic honor, opens fire in two buildings on the University of Iowa campus. Five University of Iowa employees killed, including four members of the physics department, two other people are wounded. The student fatally shoots himself.

_May 4, 1970: Four students were killed and nine wounded by National Guard troops called in to quell anti-war protests on the campus of Kent State University in Ohio.

_Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman points a rifle from the observation deck of the University of Texas at Austin's Tower and begins shooting in a homicidal rampage that goes on for 96 minutes. Sixteen people are killed, 31 wounded.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
#9
That record is just awful. Dear god, what kind of morons are ruling your country? Like I said in the NATW thread: it doesn't happen in Western Europe and that's no coincidence. Something needs to be done about this. It's also no coincidence that it happens in a nation that more or less accepts terms such as "crusade" and "holy war" and that thinks the war on terror is actually a noble cause.

May the victims of the USA rest in peace.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
#11
That record is just awful. Dear god, what kind of morons are ruling your country? Like I said in the NATW thread: it doesn't happen in Western Europe and that's no coincidence. Something needs to be done about this. It's also no coincidence that it happens in a nation that more or less accepts terms such as "crusade" and "holy war" and that thinks the war on terror is actually a noble cause.

May the victims of the USA rest in peace.


True that these things don't happen much in Europe. But I don't see what this has to do with leaders, as far as I know or as far as I understood these criminals do enter any school/public places shoots and then either leaves or shoot themselves. So, I don't think this has really connection to the leaders.

This can happen in Europe, but It just doesn't happen much, but that doesn't mean I or you or anyone else cant really go out there take/buy a pistol and start shooting here and there.
 

Ahmedios

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2006
5,107
#13
That record is just awful. Dear god, what kind of morons are ruling your country? Like I said in the NATW thread: it doesn't happen in Western Europe and that's no coincidence. Something needs to be done about this. It's also no coincidence that it happens in a nation that more or less accepts terms such as "crusade" and "holy war" and that thinks the war on terror is actually a noble cause.

May the victims of the USA rest in peace.
What is the relation among the criminal(s) who committed the today's crime, the USA leaders and the presence of less crimes in Western Europe?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
#14
You guys might want to think things through. I know some of you aren't that bright, but you should understand what I said just about .... now.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
#15
What is the relation among the criminal(s) who committed the today's crime, the USA leaders and the presence of less crimes in Western Europe?
Fine. I admit there's no proven causal relation. But that goes for everything. You can choose to say there's no causal relation between drinking and pissing. Then again, isn't it odd how you have to piss every time a couple of hours after you had your drink?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
#16
True that these things don't happen much in Europe. But I don't see what this has to do with leaders, as far as I know or as far as I understood these criminals do enter any school/public places shoots and then either leaves or shoot themselves. So, I don't think this has really connection to the leaders.

This can happen in Europe, but It just doesn't happen much, but that doesn't mean I or you or anyone else cant really go out there take/buy a pistol and start shooting here and there.
But we don't. And that has a reason.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
#18
But we don't. And that has a reason.
We don't because me and you do know the consequences of killing people we know we don't wanna do it. Others don't...not only americans.

Take a look at Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay....same happens from time to time... and as far as I know these countries are not invading other countries. is the problem solved? No.

Same can be said about Africa.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,307
#19
Hey, I might be an arrogant son of a bitch, but who's trying to improve society here? You, who's absolutely not critical and acts as if nothing happened? I on the other hand ask questions and wonder why these things occur far more in the USA then they do in Western Europe. Please, don't tell me it's coincidence. Everyone knows that's bullshit. Just one reason, of the top of my head: it's not as easy to buy guns here as it is there.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,774
#20
you raise a valid observation ie: prominence of such violent acts in the USA but your correlation to leadership and foreign policy is utterly absurd and you know it. You would have had more success trying to link your quarrel with andy to this subject by referring to the US incessant history of wars as a breeding ground to a culture of violence. However the rhetoric and foreign policy of our president had little to nothing to do with the angst and anger of a college kid.
 

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