US Presidential Elections thread - the fate of the world to be decided (10 Viewers)

[Seven]

You know, those ads have made it all even worse. How anyone could be a Republican right now is beyond me. It's sickening to such an extent that I hardly feel like listening to someone who calls himself Republican. That's what American politics have become, that's how bad it really is.

 

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[Martin]

Vin, do you think Bill O'Reilly does a good show?

 

[Bjerknes]

You know, those ads have made it all even worse. How anyone could be a Republican right now is beyond me. It's sickening to such an extent that I hardly feel like listening to someone who calls himself Republican. That's what American politics have become, that's how bad it really is.

Welcome to my world.

 

[Bjerknes]

Bill O'Rielly sexually harasses his coworkers and portrays blatant racism at times on his shows. No idea why people watch that baboon.

 

[Martin]

Well you can dislike that and still watch him because you think he has a point. I'm just wondering how Vin feels about that cause he's never told us.

 

[Bjerknes]

Oh, yeah sure, he does have a lot points. But they're all a load of bull.

 

[Seven]

Well you can dislike that and still watch him because you think he has a point. I'm just wondering how Vin feels about that cause he's never told us.

Vin never tells us anything. He just starts shouting. The guy makes no sense whatsoever. He's what's wrong with American politics:

- he only like quotes, can't be bothered to listen to an entire interview
- starts yelling to make a point
- lies about crimes committed by his own side
- doesn't like Obama because he's an African American, but tries to hide this behind numerous other lies.

 

[Martin]

Vin never tells us anything. He just starts shouting. The guy makes no sense whatsoever.

That might be because we harass him so much. That's not the way to start a dialog though.

 

[Seven]

That might be because we harass him so much. That's not the way to start a dialog though.

Why would we want a dialogue? Is he going to tell us anything that's worthwhile? I think not.

 

[Martin]

Here's a thought. If we are to believe the stereotype that black people vote Obama because he's black, then presumably white people vote for a white guy because he's not black, in other words because he's white. So how is one any better than the other? The difference is the white voter has had his white candidate in the race from the start, the black voter is just getting his chance now.

 

[Bjerknes]

The fact of the matter is, we won't change our opinions on various matters. Especially Vinni. We can't change his opinion.

 

[Bjerknes]

Here's a thought. If we are to believe the stereotype that black people vote Obama because he's black, then presumably white people vote for a white guy because he's not black, in other words because he's white. So how is one any better than the other? The difference is the white voter has had his white candidate in the race from the start, the black voter is just getting his chance now.

This topic is too hard to examine person by person.

 

[Seven]

You misunderstood me. It's not because he's racist that he doesn't vote on Obama because he's black. He has his reasons.

 

[Martin]

You misunderstood me. It's not because he's racist that he doesn't vote on Obama because he's black. He has his reasons.

I'm not talking about Vin, I'm talking about people who say that blacks vote for the black guy because he's black.

 

[Il Re]

guys, please don't tell me vinnie is a republican

 

[Bjerknes]

guys, please don't tell me vinnie is a republican

Vinni is a Republican. He was once a Democrat, but he was turned away from that party due to what he saw in his city/state.

 

[Seven]

I'm not talking about Vin, I'm talking about people who say that blacks vote for the black guy because he's black.

I honestly don't know about that. I wouldn't vote on a guy just because he's white, but then again I'm I was never sent to the back of the bus because I was white, so who knows?

 

[Martin]

A HISTORIC TICKET.... Now that Sarah Palin has been found to have abused her powers, violated state ethics, and lied about it, I did a little digging and found an interesting historical footnote.

The McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.

McCain, of course, was admonished by Senate Ethics Committee "for exercising 'poor judgment' for intervening" with federal regulators on behalf of Charles Keating, as part of the infamous Keating Five scandal.

And now McCain's running mate has also been found to have violated state ethics laws and abused the powers of her office, as part of the "Troopergate" scandal.

The nation has had 102 major-party tickets covering 51 presidential elections over more than two centuries. And we've never had a ticket in which both candidates on the same ticket were responsible for ethics violations before a national election. McCain/Palin is the first.

It makes the whole "reform" pitch a little more difficult, doesn't it?

lol

 

[Bjerknes]

Shameful. We're doomed.

 

[Geof]

This quote is funny of course, but I think what Mc Cain said here was quite classy. One could say it's a first sign of weakness (giving up) or more likely, targetting the undecided voter, but I just think it's the first time I found Mc Cain to be reasonable and credible.

That's the part I am talking about: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlIigHg1v0