US Presidential Elections thread - the fate of the world to be decided (5 Viewers)

Who would you vote to be the next President of the United States?

  • John McCain

  • Barack Obama

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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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And it's never an excuse to say, "Well, this can't be that bad because those guys are worse!" But I know a lot of people who have it out for police in general, a few good cops aside, but without even recognizing their double standard for them versus other important positions in society -- and being blind to how those other positions are screwing them over at least as much with their complicit, albeit passive, approval.
Perhaps you had me all wrong. I'm far more depressed about the state of our society than just concerns about police abuses.

And I also know a lot of people who are adamant supporters of three strikes laws to put away "those evildoers" for life while they happily go along cheating on their taxes or slapping around their spouse, thinking nothing of it, and making no connection to their own capacity for criminal behavior.
Indeed, we are all in the same boat on that one, everyone has criminal (or shall we say unethical) instincts. And psychologically, it's usually those who condemn the most viciously that subconsciously have most internal conflict about their own ethics. Gay family values crusaders come to mind. I wonder if that means I have some unresolved issues with violence myself, hope not. :D

Perhaps we should have a program that allows every citizen to be a cop for a day -- and particularly many of the bitchers and whiners. But something tells me that would be much more of a social evil than a social good in the long run.
Boy, that would be a rough day for me. Not only do I have little respect for authority, I'm not cut out to be heavy handed either.
 

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L'autista
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Perhaps you had me all wrong. I'm far more depressed about the state of our society than just concerns about police abuses.
Good point. :D

Indeed, we are all in the same boat on that one, everyone has criminal (or shall we say unethical) instincts. And psychologically, it's usually those who condemn the most viciously that subconsciously have most internal conflict about their own ethics. Gay family values crusaders come to mind. I wonder if that means I have some unresolved issues with violence myself, hope not. :D
It's the concept of "psychological projection" among the psychogeeks. (Yes, the kind Tom Cruise despises. :p) I am so with you there. Anytime I see some politician railing or going off about something, my first suspicion now is that they are a closet offender.

It started when I first saw the U.S.-government sponsored Meese report, which was supposed to be a damnation on pornography in America. Reading it, seeing the detail they documented it, you quickly realized, 'These people are freaking getting off on this!"

Since then we've had anti-gay, anti-prostitution-ring, anti-whatevers all exposed for the hypocrites that they are.
 

Martin

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It's the concept of "psychological projection" among the psychogeeks. (Yes, the kind Tom Cruise despises. :p) I am so with you there. Anytime I see some politician railing or going off about something, my first suspicion now is that they are a closet offender.
How sad that it's come to this. But these initiatives are a great way to do a lot of hand waving without accomplishing anything. I think if you'd actually take a psychological survey of the American media and tried to figure out what their values are you'd get a terminally schizophrenic individual.

It started when I first saw the U.S.-government sponsored Meese report, which was supposed to be a damnation on pornography in America. Reading it, seeing the detail they documented it, you quickly realized, 'These people are freaking getting off on this!"
Not to mention the Kenneth Starr "report". What the hell was that other than a giant soap opera.
 

Bjerknes

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It started when I first saw the U.S.-government sponsored Meese report, which was supposed to be a damnation on pornography in America. Reading it, seeing the detail they documented it, you quickly realized, 'These people are freaking getting off on this!"
:lol2:

Without a doubt they were. I mean, it's not like it's something unnatural. The anti-gay crowd is another particularly annoying bunch, with usually all of the personnel getting caught in homosexual acts being the most staunch conservatives of the lot. They're all hypocrites.

How sad that it's come to this. But these initiatives are a great way to do a lot of hand waving without accomplishing anything. I think if you'd actually take a psychological survey of the American media and tried to figure out what their values are you'd get a terminally schizophrenic individual.
Or completely retarded.

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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I actually saw the media finally taking a break from the Wright story and take a gander into a few of McCain's utter psychos on his side. "Islam is fake this," "Islam is evil that," "this nation was created to destroy the fake religion of Islam."

Sure, perhaps Islam is "fake," but just as fake as yours you morons. Dear God, I hate Christian conservatives.
 

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L'autista
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I actually saw the media finally taking a break from the Wright story and take a gander into a few of McCain's utter psychos on his side. "Islam is fake this," "Islam is evil that," "this nation was created to destroy the fake religion of Islam."

Sure, perhaps Islam is "fake," but just as fake as yours you morons. Dear God, I hate Christian conservatives.
That's it. Can we create the "Death to False Christians" party?
 
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