US Diplomats killed in Benghazi over amateur's film (6 Viewers)

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Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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So you're saying it was made specifically to provoke people. Okay then, who made it? Why was it made? Clearly it didn't have a big budget, but it did have a budget, it's not a youtube one man monologue. It has actors, costumes, sets. Someone must have paid for all that.

And their only goal was to piss people off? Why would someone spend money on that?
Because they can?
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Makes sense.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see how Islam evolves in the time of globalization and information. The Muhammed provocations will never stop and you'll never get the western world to leave freedom of speech behind - except for something more 'free'.

So it'll be interesting to how muslims will react to them. Of course an increase in the general living standard will do a lot (especially [objective] education) to decrease those sort of reactions.

In Denmark most muslims seems to just ignore it - which is smart.
Education will help for sure but only because they seem to ignore it in Denmark doesn't mean they haven't found it offensive. These kinds of low products which are mostly made to draw provocations won't help Muslims become more tolerant. It will only distance them from the rest of the world (even more) and from the Western society. What we might fail to see is that there could be a narrow line between what you think you have targetted with your work, what you have targetted in real and how your targetted audience interpret your work. For several years, Islamic extremists' antics have troubled peacful Muslims all over the world. September 11 was a disaster but it's Muslims who are still struggling with its consequences. The western world started looking at them as potential suicide bombers, it did spread an unhealthy phobia of Muslims in the west. To target such a group of people who have been themselves, directly or indirectly, victims of Islamic extrimism is pathetic especially because your audience is confused to understand whether it's their religion that is being attacked or their identity. The hatred has been seeded for a long time now, by a small group of idiots who are either being uneducated or serving a bigger political purpose. Sad thing is that the larger community of people who are mostly sharing same values have fallen for this, letting this hatred develope even more. So in my opinion, if a government cares to solve the problem, it needs to try to look further than just remaining loyal to a term: free speech.
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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Education will help for sure but only because they seem to ignore it in Denmark doesn't mean they haven't found it offensive. These kinds of low products which are mostly made to draw provocations won't help Muslims become more tolerant. It will only distance them from the rest of the world (even more) and from the Western society. What we might fail to see is that there could be a narrow line between what you think you have targetted with your work, what you have targetted in real and how your targetted audience interpret your work. For several years, Islamic extremists' antics have troubled peacful Muslims all over the world. September 11 was a disaster but it's Muslims who are still struggling with its consequences. The western world started looking at them as potential suicide bombers, it did spread an unhealthy phobia of Muslims in the west. To target such a group of people who have been themselves, directly or indirectly, victims of Islamic extrimism is pathetic especially because your audience is confused to understand whether it's their religion that is being attacked or their identity. The hatred has been seeded for a long time now, by a small group of idiots who are either being uneducated or serving a bigger political purpose. Sad thing is that the larger community of people who are mostly sharing same values have fallen for this, letting this hatred develope even more. So in my opinion, if a government cares to solve the problem, it needs to try to look further than just remaining loyal to a term: free speech.
This is why I said, Muslims should be more offended with how the media and some politicians in the West portray them. Denmark is absolutely disgusting at that point. We're creating an "us and them culture".
 

Nzoric

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This is why I said, Muslims should be more offended with how the media and some politicians in the West portray them. Denmark is absolutely disgusting at that point. We're creating an "us and them culture".
It's already done here in Denmark. Not just with Muslims, any immigrant who doesn't have a western accent when he speaks danish.
 
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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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    A new video surfacing on the internet of regular Libyan citizens entering the American consulate in Benghazi and trying to save Christopher Stevens, for those who do not understand Arabic, when they find him, he's alive, so they start saying, "He's alive, he's alive, allahu akbar" in this video Stevens is still alive, but apparently he when he reached the hospital he passed away.

    Heres the video

     

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