from my experience with bobbies, you have the suburbanite "electra glide blue" bringer of "justice, and then the metropolis "i know how to handle a situation" cop
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its a no win situation for the police...
if they just leave the scene without investigating the reason for the 911 hangup, and someone is dead in the house, then the police are blamed for not doing their jobs...and if they do, well then you get articles like these
the peoples story almost sounded believable until I read the sentence that the guy is a "well known lawyer".......makes me think of a huge lawsuit
if they just leave the scene without investigating the reason for the 911 hangup, and someone is dead in the house, then the police are blamed for not doing their jobs...and if they do, well then you get articles like these
the peoples story almost sounded believable until I read the sentence that the guy is a "well known lawyer".......makes me think of a huge lawsuit
a weight joke. thats funny
once when i was driving to ottawa it called my friend at 6 am, waking up everybody in the family (while in my pocket) he calls me back and since he knew i was on the road i thought he woke up and gave me a call. so he goes to sleep and his mom comes and asks him who was that. He says " thats just bes" to which she asks "what did he want" and him sleepingly responds "he pressed it by mistake" (he said it in albanian and "pressed the button" and "hit somebody with the car" is basically the same word in this contest) so she freaked out a bit
once when i was driving to ottawa it called my friend at 6 am, waking up everybody in the family (while in my pocket) he calls me back and since he knew i was on the road i thought he woke up and gave me a call. so he goes to sleep and his mom comes and asks him who was that. He says " thats just bes" to which she asks "what did he want" and him sleepingly responds "he pressed it by mistake" (he said it in albanian and "pressed the button" and "hit somebody with the car" is basically the same word in this contest) so she freaked out a bit
I gotta admit this is a little bit different. If an emergency number's been dialled from a phone, I think it's a good protocol to follow to check up on the house. The police had no way of knowing if the couple were legitimate residents of the premises or a couple of crooks who have the family slashed and gutted inside.
That said, breaking ribs and threatening with tasers is a bit overboard. If the couple was being civilised, the officers could have simply explained the situation and stated that they had to have a look around to make sure everything was ok. I think most people would understand in that situation.
Hehe, I understand that one because Korean has a fairly similar set of words for press/hit/push.
That said, breaking ribs and threatening with tasers is a bit overboard. If the couple was being civilised, the officers could have simply explained the situation and stated that they had to have a look around to make sure everything was ok. I think most people would understand in that situation.
Hehe, I understand that one because Korean has a fairly similar set of words for press/hit/push.
Oh, the picked-on-high-school-student-out-for-retribution cop. The worst kind, IMO. Imagine Seven with a badge and a gun. 
I knew there was a reason I deferred to Vinnie. Yeah, this pretty much echoed about what my brother told me. The goal is really to get the person to move by their own will to minimize the overall potential for harm.
I had a Turkish grad student housemate once who used to get the cops knocking at our door every so often. But instead of trying to get us to re-enact the movie Midnight Express, it turns out he would accidentally dial 9-1-1 instead of 0-1-1 (the international access code in the U.S.) when calling home.
The Palo Alto cops must have thought I had a hooker locked in my closet who kept getting out. (Fortunately I only locked her in the garage, where there weren't any phones.)
I knew there was a reason I deferred to Vinnie. Yeah, this pretty much echoed about what my brother told me. The goal is really to get the person to move by their own will to minimize the overall potential for harm.
I had a Turkish grad student housemate once who used to get the cops knocking at our door every so often. But instead of trying to get us to re-enact the movie Midnight Express, it turns out he would accidentally dial 9-1-1 instead of 0-1-1 (the international access code in the U.S.) when calling home.
The Palo Alto cops must have thought I had a hooker locked in my closet who kept getting out. (Fortunately I only locked her in the garage, where there weren't any phones.)
swag said:
Oh, the picked-on-high-school-student-out-for-retribution cop. The worst kind, IMO. Imagine Seven with a badge and a gun.
I knew there was a reason I deferred to Vinnie. Yeah, this pretty much echoed about what my brother told me. The goal is really to get the person to move by their own will to minimize the overall potential for harm.
I had a Turkish grad student housemate once who used to get the cops knocking at our door every so often. But instead of trying to get us to re-enact the movie Midnight Express, it turns out he would accidentally dial 9-1-1 instead of 0-1-1 (the international access code in the U.S.) when calling home.
The Palo Alto cops must have thought I had a hooker locked in my closet who kept getting out. (Fortunately I only locked her in the garage, where there weren't any phones.)
I knew there was a reason I deferred to Vinnie. Yeah, this pretty much echoed about what my brother told me. The goal is really to get the person to move by their own will to minimize the overall potential for harm.
I had a Turkish grad student housemate once who used to get the cops knocking at our door every so often. But instead of trying to get us to re-enact the movie Midnight Express, it turns out he would accidentally dial 9-1-1 instead of 0-1-1 (the international access code in the U.S.) when calling home.
The Palo Alto cops must have thought I had a hooker locked in my closet who kept getting out. (Fortunately I only locked her in the garage, where there weren't any phones.)
. You know what's so sad about it? I never got picked on, but I'm still out for retribution.It continues:
Nov. 23, 2006 — Roughly 3 million Americans live with epilepsy. And a surprising number of them go to jail for it.
Why? Around the country, police officers and bystanders who see someone having a seizure mistake it for disorderly, criminal behavior.
That's what happened to Daniel Beloungea of Pontiac, Mich. On most days Daniel lives the normal life of a 48-year-old single man. But roughly once a week, he loses total control of his body and mind to an epileptic seizure.
A seizure took over Beloungea's body while walking through his suburban Detroit neighborhood last April. When an onlooker in a neighbor's house saw Beloungea having the seizure, which includes rapid repetitive arm motion, she misinterpreted it as criminal conduct. Specifically, she thought Beloungea was masturbating in public.
With that misconception in mind, she called the Oakland Police Department. When police arrived on the scene, Beloungea was still undergoing his seizure, acting disoriented and not responding to questions.
When officers couldn't get through to Beloungea they drew their weapons, shocked him with a high-voltage taser, hit him with a baton and wrestled him to the ground. They then handcuffed him and put him in a police car.
Undersheriff Michael McCabe of the Oakland County Police Department said that the officers tasered Beloungea because he lunged at one of them. Beloungea and his lawyer say the more police got physical the more Beloungea got agitated and aggressive — typical behavior, according to the Epilepsy Foundation of America, for a person restrained while having a partial complex seizure. Beloungea's wild motions and inability to communicate were not defiance or resistance, but classic symptoms of epilepsy
The officers put Beloungea in jail, citing assault of a police officer and resisting arrest. Throughout the incident, Beloungea was wearing a medical alert bracelet identifying him as an epileptic, stating his name and the contact numbers of people who can be reached in case of an emergency.
Nov. 23, 2006 — Roughly 3 million Americans live with epilepsy. And a surprising number of them go to jail for it.
Why? Around the country, police officers and bystanders who see someone having a seizure mistake it for disorderly, criminal behavior.
That's what happened to Daniel Beloungea of Pontiac, Mich. On most days Daniel lives the normal life of a 48-year-old single man. But roughly once a week, he loses total control of his body and mind to an epileptic seizure.
A seizure took over Beloungea's body while walking through his suburban Detroit neighborhood last April. When an onlooker in a neighbor's house saw Beloungea having the seizure, which includes rapid repetitive arm motion, she misinterpreted it as criminal conduct. Specifically, she thought Beloungea was masturbating in public.
With that misconception in mind, she called the Oakland Police Department. When police arrived on the scene, Beloungea was still undergoing his seizure, acting disoriented and not responding to questions.
When officers couldn't get through to Beloungea they drew their weapons, shocked him with a high-voltage taser, hit him with a baton and wrestled him to the ground. They then handcuffed him and put him in a police car.
Undersheriff Michael McCabe of the Oakland County Police Department said that the officers tasered Beloungea because he lunged at one of them. Beloungea and his lawyer say the more police got physical the more Beloungea got agitated and aggressive — typical behavior, according to the Epilepsy Foundation of America, for a person restrained while having a partial complex seizure. Beloungea's wild motions and inability to communicate were not defiance or resistance, but classic symptoms of epilepsy
The officers put Beloungea in jail, citing assault of a police officer and resisting arrest. Throughout the incident, Beloungea was wearing a medical alert bracelet identifying him as an epileptic, stating his name and the contact numbers of people who can be reached in case of an emergency.
thats a crock of shit...we have been trained and know when someone is having a seizure, and know what to do in that situation.
Its always nice to see all police generalized, like the example above...and all the others in this wonderful thread (good job, Gray
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If a police officer makes a mistake, it always makes the news, and we are all painted with the same brush....it gets annoying after awhile
people dont want to hear any longer how a police officer saved their life, or their child's life...or how a police officer managed to arrest the person who burglarized their home, etc..... it just isnt interesting enough
Its always nice to see all police generalized, like the example above...and all the others in this wonderful thread (good job, Gray
)If a police officer makes a mistake, it always makes the news, and we are all painted with the same brush....it gets annoying after awhile
people dont want to hear any longer how a police officer saved their life, or their child's life...or how a police officer managed to arrest the person who burglarized their home, etc..... it just isnt interesting enough
Vinman said:
Its always nice to see all police generalized, like the example above...and all the others in this wonderful thread (good job, Gray )
)
Of course it's going to make the news if a police officer makes a big mistake like forcefully arresting someone who's having an epileptic fit. As you yourself said, they're trained to deal with such situations and it's something that just shouldn't happen.
That said, I don't think these stories make people think lowly of the police in general. I for one have great respect for people who frequently put their lives on the line to help others, but at the same time I can't help but be concerned when I read reports about people misuse their positions of power and authority.
It's a bit like Catholic priests. The first thing most people think of when they hear the word is an old man who likes to have sex with little boys. But if you look at it from an objective point of view, it's only a very small minority of priests who are involved. The reason people are so outraged when they find out about such offences is not just because their actions are being covered up and perceived as condoned (much like police officers sometimes), but because these are men in positions of trust and influence.
As for the media, I find that it's best to not take it too seriously. Following the same vein, nobody wants to hear about a Catholic priest helping the sick, poor and elderly. It's just not interesting enough... but in the end, it's not what people think that matters.