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i have been asking myself that question myself everytimes this happen... i just dont get it.. why?...WHY?!!....i guest it just one of those questions which its not in me to figure it out.... the same as i never understand what so offensive in liliana's post....why people can offensively say her post offensive? ...... what some person ment when they say its a lightning rod.... what does she bring to herself?..... why some people resort to bash another person just bcoz her post not up to their standard of football intelligence.... why cant let her be....why people can resist the desire to not leave her in peace..... why people cant understand that being a ' plastic fan' or whateva is no crime..... why people cant appreciate that there is a plastic fan who love the club like crazy and want to learn a lot.... being such an expert and all, instead of telling her that, no, juve dont lose 14 billions, its not logic, those people are quick to call her stupid for not using her head....why ?!!!
i never think i could get some of those answers before, i dont think i get it now ... nor it think i would be any benefite to this situation.... but IMO this problem can be resolve cleanly if people who have problems with LIliana's post to just PUT HER IN YOUR IGNORE LIST... now i think , she herself and some factors have said that numerous times , but to no avail..this makes this problems lagging.... so what i really want to achieve here is....
WHY PEOPLE WHO DEFINATELY OUTSPOKEN TO THEIR PROBLEM TO LILIANA 'S POSTS DO NOT PUT HER INTO THEIR IGNORE LIST?
its an important question and step as after we have identify those issues, we can work progressively to resolve em so that you have no problem to put her into your ignore list...now i personally really have no idea what those are and this could be very interesting and new to me...
i think this problem would never be settled outside the ignore list idea... i think thats the only way where liliana, anti- lilianas, anti-anti-lilianas and the forum in general would benefit best from. it would leave Liliana at peace, the anti- liliana have no problem about her posts anymore (well maybe only to those who cant see her at peace ), the anti-anti-liliana dont have to see this happening again and again :stress:, and the forum is once again a place where we can alll discuss football without the worry of our post is not intelligence or mature enough...and believe it or not, people are actually more annoyed reading you people bashing liliana than reading lilinana supposely annoying post ...please.. this gotta end...personally i am very sad that this society have to resolve to putting people to ignore list as the best method, but as someone said, an ideal world would never come to light... and there are no such thing as pefect admistration as i also have lost large amount of respect to some of the mods along the way....
now i have identify this people as problematic to liliana's post :-
Vilhermas, Incuborosenerro , Nina, Paolo_Montero, Shadowfax,
come on now..the question is simple...i repeat it again...
WHY PEOPLE WHO DEFINATELY OUTSPOKEN TO THEIR PROBLEM TO LILIANA 'S POSTS DO NOT PUT HER INTO THEIR IGNORE LIST?
i dont think you dont want to hurt her feelings by putting her in your ignore list... nope..thats not it... and dont tell me its not such a big matter to warrant such a method... this is going on for months now and have create and derailed lots of threads... you guys have personally offended one person and if that happens, surely the ignore list feature is warranted to be used....
now, incubo and vilhermas.. why dont you guys start.. dont be shy now.. coz you two are definately not shy and the world wouldnt be the same if you start.. 　please.. tell us.. why the hell dont you put her in your ignore list?
i never think i could get some of those answers before, i dont think i get it now ... nor it think i would be any benefite to this situation.... but IMO this problem can be resolve cleanly if people who have problems with LIliana's post to just PUT HER IN YOUR IGNORE LIST... now i think , she herself and some factors have said that numerous times , but to no avail..this makes this problems lagging.... so what i really want to achieve here is....
WHY PEOPLE WHO DEFINATELY OUTSPOKEN TO THEIR PROBLEM TO LILIANA 'S POSTS DO NOT PUT HER INTO THEIR IGNORE LIST?
its an important question and step as after we have identify those issues, we can work progressively to resolve em so that you have no problem to put her into your ignore list...now i personally really have no idea what those are and this could be very interesting and new to me...
i think this problem would never be settled outside the ignore list idea... i think thats the only way where liliana, anti- lilianas, anti-anti-lilianas and the forum in general would benefit best from. it would leave Liliana at peace, the anti- liliana have no problem about her posts anymore (well maybe only to those who cant see her at peace ), the anti-anti-liliana dont have to see this happening again and again :stress:, and the forum is once again a place where we can alll discuss football without the worry of our post is not intelligence or mature enough...and believe it or not, people are actually more annoyed reading you people bashing liliana than reading lilinana supposely annoying post ...please.. this gotta end...personally i am very sad that this society have to resolve to putting people to ignore list as the best method, but as someone said, an ideal world would never come to light... and there are no such thing as pefect admistration as i also have lost large amount of respect to some of the mods along the way....
now i have identify this people as problematic to liliana's post :-
Vilhermas, Incuborosenerro , Nina, Paolo_Montero, Shadowfax,
come on now..the question is simple...i repeat it again...
WHY PEOPLE WHO DEFINATELY OUTSPOKEN TO THEIR PROBLEM TO LILIANA 'S POSTS DO NOT PUT HER INTO THEIR IGNORE LIST?
i dont think you dont want to hurt her feelings by putting her in your ignore list... nope..thats not it... and dont tell me its not such a big matter to warrant such a method... this is going on for months now and have create and derailed lots of threads... you guys have personally offended one person and if that happens, surely the ignore list feature is warranted to be used....
now, incubo and vilhermas.. why dont you guys start.. dont be shy now.. coz you two are definately not shy and the world wouldnt be the same if you start.. 　please.. tell us.. why the hell dont you put her in your ignore list?
Wow, I have just read 7 pages of this since my post on page 6 and I realized there was no reply as yet to the stuff I brought up. Btw, good job Erik on trying to derail this thread. 
I'll tell you why. In fact I tried to bring out the message in my last post. Yes, ideally people should be able to accept people for who they are and I have always said that anyone should be able to support their club(s) for any reason or duration they please. It's not my business to tell anyone who the "real" fans are and who the "plastics" are. It is a fact, however, that long term supporters seem to appreciate each other a lot more than they do bandwagoners. I still think everyone should be treated with respect regardless of who they are.
So much for theory, now we come to the practical part. First of all, people's likes and dislikes will influence their words no matter what and we can hardly change what people think, can we? Moreoever, this is a forum. Make no mistake about it, a forum is a place where people come to debate and argue with each other. Nick and Kaiser have both said they are here to debate with us rather than fraternize with Milanisti. Like it or not, some people are after an argument and they probably feel it's time well spent if they engage in one.
Now, had this been a place like xtratime, with fans of all possible clubs, there probably would have been far more disagreement and heated debate. In that light, lilianna probably would be overlooked. As it stands, however, there isn't much of it and when lilianna makes a challenging statement, some people tend to want to follow up on that and debate with her. It's easy enough to say people should ignore whoever they don't like but some of us are not here to ignore but to confront and engage in arguments. That's the nature of forums. Thus, as I said before, being here for so long, lilianna should know what to expect from every word said because she knows everyone here. Moreover, her widespread participation across the forum probably also comes off as an invitation to debate.
As Serge put it: think before you post. In daily life you face consequences for things you say in haste and maybe you don't mean literally, here you have all the time in the world to make sure your message is in line with what you want to say.
And finally, no I did not open this thread to "solve" this problem, I opened it because such a thread was needed. It's easy enough to close threads but with issues in the air, they will only transplant to other locations thus we need this ground as an outlet and hopefully by the end we will be done with it.
I'll tell you why. In fact I tried to bring out the message in my last post. Yes, ideally people should be able to accept people for who they are and I have always said that anyone should be able to support their club(s) for any reason or duration they please. It's not my business to tell anyone who the "real" fans are and who the "plastics" are. It is a fact, however, that long term supporters seem to appreciate each other a lot more than they do bandwagoners. I still think everyone should be treated with respect regardless of who they are.
So much for theory, now we come to the practical part. First of all, people's likes and dislikes will influence their words no matter what and we can hardly change what people think, can we? Moreoever, this is a forum. Make no mistake about it, a forum is a place where people come to debate and argue with each other. Nick and Kaiser have both said they are here to debate with us rather than fraternize with Milanisti. Like it or not, some people are after an argument and they probably feel it's time well spent if they engage in one.
Now, had this been a place like xtratime, with fans of all possible clubs, there probably would have been far more disagreement and heated debate. In that light, lilianna probably would be overlooked. As it stands, however, there isn't much of it and when lilianna makes a challenging statement, some people tend to want to follow up on that and debate with her. It's easy enough to say people should ignore whoever they don't like but some of us are not here to ignore but to confront and engage in arguments. That's the nature of forums. Thus, as I said before, being here for so long, lilianna should know what to expect from every word said because she knows everyone here. Moreover, her widespread participation across the forum probably also comes off as an invitation to debate.
As Serge put it: think before you post. In daily life you face consequences for things you say in haste and maybe you don't mean literally, here you have all the time in the world to make sure your message is in line with what you want to say.
And finally, no I did not open this thread to "solve" this problem, I opened it because such a thread was needed. It's easy enough to close threads but with issues in the air, they will only transplant to other locations thus we need this ground as an outlet and hopefully by the end we will be done with it.
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Wow, I have just read 7 pages of this since my post on page 6 and I realized there was no reply as yet to the stuff I brought up. Btw, good job Erik on trying to derail this thread.
I'll tell you why. In fact I tried to bring out the message in my last post. Yes, ideally people should be able to accept people for who they are and I have always said that anyone should be able to support their club(s) for any reason or duration they please. It's not my business to tell anyone who the "real" fans are and who the "plastics" are. It is a fact, however, that long term supporters seem to appreciate each other a lot more than they do bandwagoners. I still think everyone should be treated with respect regardless of who they are.
So much for theory, now we come to the practical part. First of all, people's likes and dislikes will influence their words no matter what and we can hardly change what people think, can we? Moreoever, this is a forum. Make no mistake about it, a forum is a place where people come to debate and argue with each other. Nick and Kaiser have both said they are here to debate with us rather than fraternize with Milanisti. Like it or not, some people are after an argument and they probably feel it's time well spent if they engage in one.
Now, had this been a place like xtratime, with fans of all possible clubs, there probably would have been far more disagreement and heated debate. In that light, lilianna probably would be overlooked. As it stands, however, there isn't much of it and when lilianna makes a challenging statement, some people tend to want to follow up on that and debate with her. It's easy enough to say people should ignore whoever they don't like but some of us are not here to ignore but to confront and engage in arguments. That's the nature of forums. Thus, as I said before, being here for so long, lilianna should know what to expect from every word said because she knows everyone here. Moreover, her widespread participation across the forum probably also comes off as an invitation to debate.
As Serge put it: think before you post. In daily life you face consequences for things you say in haste and maybe you don't mean literally, here you have all the time in the world to make sure your message is in line with what you want to say.
And finally, no I did not open this thread to "solve" this problem, I opened it because such a thread was needed. It's easy enough to close threads but with issues in the air, they will only transplant to other locations thus we need this ground as an outlet and hopefully by the end we will be done with it.
Wow, I have just read 7 pages of this since my post on page 6 and I realized there was no reply as yet to the stuff I brought up. Btw, good job Erik on trying to derail this thread.
I'll tell you why. In fact I tried to bring out the message in my last post. Yes, ideally people should be able to accept people for who they are and I have always said that anyone should be able to support their club(s) for any reason or duration they please. It's not my business to tell anyone who the "real" fans are and who the "plastics" are. It is a fact, however, that long term supporters seem to appreciate each other a lot more than they do bandwagoners. I still think everyone should be treated with respect regardless of who they are.
So much for theory, now we come to the practical part. First of all, people's likes and dislikes will influence their words no matter what and we can hardly change what people think, can we? Moreoever, this is a forum. Make no mistake about it, a forum is a place where people come to debate and argue with each other. Nick and Kaiser have both said they are here to debate with us rather than fraternize with Milanisti. Like it or not, some people are after an argument and they probably feel it's time well spent if they engage in one.
Now, had this been a place like xtratime, with fans of all possible clubs, there probably would have been far more disagreement and heated debate. In that light, lilianna probably would be overlooked. As it stands, however, there isn't much of it and when lilianna makes a challenging statement, some people tend to want to follow up on that and debate with her. It's easy enough to say people should ignore whoever they don't like but some of us are not here to ignore but to confront and engage in arguments. That's the nature of forums. Thus, as I said before, being here for so long, lilianna should know what to expect from every word said because she knows everyone here. Moreover, her widespread participation across the forum probably also comes off as an invitation to debate.
As Serge put it: think before you post. In daily life you face consequences for things you say in haste and maybe you don't mean literally, here you have all the time in the world to make sure your message is in line with what you want to say.
And finally, no I did not open this thread to "solve" this problem, I opened it because such a thread was needed. It's easy enough to close threads but with issues in the air, they will only transplant to other locations thus we need this ground as an outlet and hopefully by the end we will be done with it.
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