Thorsten Frings and Diego "linked" with Juve (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Alex66
- Start date
- Status
We went from where? Before he joined us, yes season 2003/2004 wasn't that good but just before it we were the best team in Europe; Serie A champions and CL finalist. About Cannavaro, I agree, he added the required depth and experience to the back line.
Thanks to Capello old-fashioned tactics which made players like Emerson looked great.
Did I mention anything about creativity? Surely, I didn't. But yes, a good defensive midfielder should be quick, tough and aggressive: Gattuso, Makelele and Essien are the best in my opinion.
I know that Frings isn't that creative and he isn't skillful as well. But he can be burdened the responsibility of being Juventus defensive midfielder, due to the previously mentioned reasons.
If he joins us, he'll be a short range solution and then a backup to another midfielder in the future.
I didn't watch him at Bayern to judge, honestly.
Emerson is Brazil's captain...and who says that Brazil is one of the teams that always has great defensive midfielders or even defenders. I just remember Dunga.
Deco isn't a defensive midfielder by the way. And this is the disaster that Barcelona are facing nowadays, the only defensive midfielder they'd got, sold to Bayern Munich. Xavi isn't a defensive midfielder either.
I agree with you about Gilberto, he'd be great. But, I haven't watched Mavuba a lot to give a fair opinion about him.
Sorry, if I sound a little bit offensive.
Certainly, your opinion is very much appreciated.
int:
Thanks to Capello old-fashioned tactics which made players like Emerson looked great.
Did I mention anything about creativity? Surely, I didn't. But yes, a good defensive midfielder should be quick, tough and aggressive: Gattuso, Makelele and Essien are the best in my opinion.
I know that Frings isn't that creative and he isn't skillful as well. But he can be burdened the responsibility of being Juventus defensive midfielder, due to the previously mentioned reasons.
If he joins us, he'll be a short range solution and then a backup to another midfielder in the future.
I didn't watch him at Bayern to judge, honestly.
Emerson is Brazil's captain...and who says that Brazil is one of the teams that always has great defensive midfielders or even defenders. I just remember Dunga.
Deco isn't a defensive midfielder by the way. And this is the disaster that Barcelona are facing nowadays, the only defensive midfielder they'd got, sold to Bayern Munich. Xavi isn't a defensive midfielder either.
I agree with you about Gilberto, he'd be great. But, I haven't watched Mavuba a lot to give a fair opinion about him.
Sorry, if I sound a little bit offensive.
Certainly, your opinion is very much appreciated.
int:
I don't think so. He would not have so much space in Italy and in Juventus.
His midfield in Bremen does a lot of work for him so that he can freelance through opponent's defences. When Borowski was injured, Diego had problems, too, and now that he's back, Diego shines again.
In addition to that you cannot call someone world-class after only one good season.
Ahmed, Emerson was a great player, like it or not. Maybe he doesn´t suit your style, but I can assure you he didn´t look good just because of Capello´s tactics. He was also a star in Bayer Leverkusen and he earned himself a transfer to Roma with his displays there and he was always important for Brazilian NT. For Juventus he did a damn good job as well as for Roma. Capello or no Capello.
If anyone wants to translate it here´s the source:
http://news.google.it/news/url?sa=T....asp&cid=1103036315&ei=Km0kRpLGNaWmogPf0_24Cw
http://news.google.it/news/url?sa=T....asp&cid=1103036315&ei=Km0kRpLGNaWmogPf0_24Cw
Awesome Babel Fish translation
Juve, offered a triennial one to Frings
FABIO VERGNANO
Goodness knows if to Torsten Frings they are piaciute the Turinese gastronomiche specialties. The Juve has tried to take it for the throat, in wait to take it in definitive way to fine season. The trentenne centrocampista of the Werder Brema, for a long time in the view-finder of the bianconero club, yesterday it was to Turin being useful for the day of freedom from the training. To its table Bettega and Secco for the Juventus, its proxy Norbert Pflippen, and the moglie Petra. It has been the occasion in order to continue a speech opened from Dry that to March has gone to Brema for dealing the purchase of the national German and that it has then carried ahead the contacts with the manager.
The negotiation continues. It cannot be said that it is to the goal, but to the rush final yes. There is the agreement with the player and is nearest also that one with the Werder, in spite of the resistances begins them of the ds, Klaus Allofs. Frings, therefore, would prefer the Juve, even if is estimating also other important offering, because it has decided that its time to the square of Brema is expired. Some days before it has declared "to think seriously next to the Juventus" and this has made to think that more it was made. In effects the Juve must have gained the competition. Hour must only gain the resistance of Frau Petra that does not seem enthusiastic to move itself to Turin. For this yesterday the Juve has engaged to the maximum in showing to the brace the best of the city. Also the details serve. In evening the Frings if they have gone some and now touches to the Juve to conclude.
To the centrocampista, than for accident it has jumped the world-wide semiend with the blueta, has been offered a contract of three years with the option for the quarter and 1,8 million I engage (hour of it takes 1,3). In the transaction Kovac could enter also. It would be, because the company on the contract still not are, the quarter bianconero purchase for the next season after Grygera, Salihamidzic and Criscito.
Juve, offered a triennial one to Frings
FABIO VERGNANO
Goodness knows if to Torsten Frings they are piaciute the Turinese gastronomiche specialties. The Juve has tried to take it for the throat, in wait to take it in definitive way to fine season. The trentenne centrocampista of the Werder Brema, for a long time in the view-finder of the bianconero club, yesterday it was to Turin being useful for the day of freedom from the training. To its table Bettega and Secco for the Juventus, its proxy Norbert Pflippen, and the moglie Petra. It has been the occasion in order to continue a speech opened from Dry that to March has gone to Brema for dealing the purchase of the national German and that it has then carried ahead the contacts with the manager.
The negotiation continues. It cannot be said that it is to the goal, but to the rush final yes. There is the agreement with the player and is nearest also that one with the Werder, in spite of the resistances begins them of the ds, Klaus Allofs. Frings, therefore, would prefer the Juve, even if is estimating also other important offering, because it has decided that its time to the square of Brema is expired. Some days before it has declared "to think seriously next to the Juventus" and this has made to think that more it was made. In effects the Juve must have gained the competition. Hour must only gain the resistance of Frau Petra that does not seem enthusiastic to move itself to Turin. For this yesterday the Juve has engaged to the maximum in showing to the brace the best of the city. Also the details serve. In evening the Frings if they have gone some and now touches to the Juve to conclude.
To the centrocampista, than for accident it has jumped the world-wide semiend with the blueta, has been offered a contract of three years with the option for the quarter and 1,8 million I engage (hour of it takes 1,3). In the transaction Kovac could enter also. It would be, because the company on the contract still not are, the quarter bianconero purchase for the next season after Grygera, Salihamidzic and Criscito.
spot on
I think Frings is more creative than people give him credit for, in my opinion he would be wasted solely as a destroyer. Yes he has a high tempo game and puts himself about but people talk as if he has no quality and suggest someone like Diego instead. I like Diego, but I would make this comparison; Frings is the Xavi to Diego's Deco.
Put a proper destroyer alongside him and it will work. Not since Zidane have Juve had a real fantasista, and he is one of the greatest players ever. Unless someone like Diego made the same impact as Kakà did it would be a gamble. I think Juve suit a 4-4-2 with two central midfielders and two wide players personally.
Put a proper destroyer alongside him and it will work. Not since Zidane have Juve had a real fantasista, and he is one of the greatest players ever. Unless someone like Diego made the same impact as Kakà did it would be a gamble. I think Juve suit a 4-4-2 with two central midfielders and two wide players personally.
We went from where? Before he joined us, yes season 2003/2004 wasn't that good but just before it we were the best team in Europe; Serie A champions and CL finalist. About Cannavaro, I agree, he added the required depth and experience to the back line.
Thanks to Capello old-fashioned tactics which made players like Emerson looked great.
Did I mention anything about creativity? Surely, I didn't. But yes, a good defensive midfielder should be quick, tough and aggressive: Gattuso, Makelele and Essien are the best in my opinion.
I know that Frings isn't that creative and he isn't skillful as well. But he can be burdened the responsibility of being Juventus defensive midfielder, due to the previously mentioned reasons.
If he joins us, he'll be a short range solution and then a backup to another midfielder in the future.
I didn't watch him at Bayern to judge, honestly.
Emerson is Brazil's captain...and who says that Brazil is one of the teams that always has great defensive midfielders or even defenders. I just remember Dunga.
Deco isn't a defensive midfielder by the way. And this is the disaster that Barcelona are facing nowadays, the only defensive midfielder they'd got, sold to Bayern Munich. Xavi isn't a defensive midfielder either.
I agree with you about Gilberto, he'd be great. But, I haven't watched Mavuba a lot to give a fair opinion about him.
Sorry, if I sound a little bit offensive.
Certainly, your opinion is very much appreciated.int:
Thanks to Capello old-fashioned tactics which made players like Emerson looked great.
Did I mention anything about creativity? Surely, I didn't. But yes, a good defensive midfielder should be quick, tough and aggressive: Gattuso, Makelele and Essien are the best in my opinion.
I know that Frings isn't that creative and he isn't skillful as well. But he can be burdened the responsibility of being Juventus defensive midfielder, due to the previously mentioned reasons.
If he joins us, he'll be a short range solution and then a backup to another midfielder in the future.
I didn't watch him at Bayern to judge, honestly.
Emerson is Brazil's captain...and who says that Brazil is one of the teams that always has great defensive midfielders or even defenders. I just remember Dunga.
Deco isn't a defensive midfielder by the way. And this is the disaster that Barcelona are facing nowadays, the only defensive midfielder they'd got, sold to Bayern Munich. Xavi isn't a defensive midfielder either.
I agree with you about Gilberto, he'd be great. But, I haven't watched Mavuba a lot to give a fair opinion about him.
Sorry, if I sound a little bit offensive.
Certainly, your opinion is very much appreciated.
int:
i think capellos tactics made emerson look good sure .. but emerson was infact great in brazil too.
He would anchor team and this allowwed the creative players to attack
I also was not comparing Deco to Frings i was simply saying that if we want Defence buy a defensive mid .. if we want attack buy an anttacking mid (Deco)
Frings is like an inbetween player to me and does not really represent the best option to me at 7 million pounds. If we are to be strong next season i think we need to have a real strong core in the center especially seeing how attack is not getting any younger and as time passes they will contribute less to defence.
I just hope the club do the right thing.
by the way you did not sound offensive. great conversation infact. I hope you are right about Frings if we get him and you can rub my face in it when we are winning games
int:- Status