Thomas Vermaelen - Defender - Arsenal (2 Viewers)

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    Barzagli --- bonucci---- chiellini was the BEST defence in the premier league and serie A.... we have 3 man defence and we were able to defend very well against all teams exept the bayern kings. We should just get youngsters which are very talented which will one day replace our current stars. ie. Ogbonna
     

    Cheesio

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    Jul 11, 2006
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    Vermaelen would be very good purchase if the price is right, he's very good with ball and a good defender, he was great the last 2 season for Arsenal altough he's been mediocre this year, lets not forget he's playing for arsenal. Like the belgian members confirmed he has always been good for belguim.
     

    AOD4

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    Nov 24, 2004
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    You're talking about error prone :lol: have you ever watched Vermaelen?
    What gives you the impression he can lead a 3 way defense?
    You don't have to see it as long as Conte sees this, that's all that matters.
    No but we are talking about the 3 untouchables, and yes that is a built for those 3.
    Everyone here knows that it has to be Conte who sees it, and anyone can use that lame argument, why participate in a forum then?
    Vermaelen latest season was as bad as Bonucci first season in Juve. Even in 2011/2012 season he was still making mistakes, only to be regularly save by Chiellini.
    But last season Bonucci improved alot. That's why I think with Conte , defensively Vermaelen will be back to his best.

    You do know that we conceded more goals from Chiellini's errors last season than Bonucci, right?
    Ya with the injury issues he wasn't on top form last season.
     

    Zacheryah

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    He is better then Bonucci, definately.
    Oh god, seriously ? I can see you work in holland, and the bias on local players has gotten onto you.

    For years, we have the issue that we conside stupid goals. just about everytime, it was down to bad reading of the game, bad anticipating, bad positionning, bad interpretation of opposing tactics.

    Kompany keeps this defence rigid. He's a massive talent, tho tends to make faults aswel playing for the NT. But Vermaelen ? oh yeah, he can lead a bit. But he cant position his back line. He's a typical english defender, all physical, but tactically just bad.
    Replaced Kompany ? lets see how he does when the opponent can actually pass the ball.

    Comparing to bonucci, who was the best defender of euro 2012, who is just as good with the ball. No, bonucci isnt a leader, but he is very solid in 1v1 and tactical positionning.

    and that positionning, is one of the key attributes to succeed in Italy.


    I'm sorry chester, but you let your fandom for our belgian players cloud your vision. Apart from Kompany, our defence is rather bad, and i fucking hope if we go to brazil, that we dont meet a team thats good at trough balls, cause they will rape us.

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    Vermaelen would be very good purchase if the price is right, he's very good with ball and a good defender, he was great the last 2 season for Arsenal altough he's been mediocre this year, lets not forget he's playing for arsenal. Like the belgian members confirmed he has always been good for belguim.
    I'm a belgian member, and i disagree.


    But you just voiced the morron opinion. He's a good defender".

    Cmon bitch, tell me what a good defender is. YOU DONT KNOW IT


    seriously. we got the best defence in europe, and suddenly a benchwarmer from fucking arsenal should replace one of our players, cause 'he's a good defender bro' and he can play the ball.


    Caceres is better then Vermaelen.
     

    Zacheryah

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    I bow to you and to your knowledge :delpiero:
    You again shy away from the question. You arent helping yourself.

    define what "a good defender" is. Give examples of what player excells in wich aspect, and then compare Bonucci to other players on mentionned aspects. Then Vermaelen.
     

    Bianconero81

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    Jan 26, 2009
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    Have you considered the gentle approach? Your aggression is so fucking provocative it forces people to disagree with you, out of spite, if nothing else. You might make valid points, but your delivery and presentation is god awful. If you were a salesperson, you'd fail 20 times out of 10. Btw, this is a cold hard fact ;)
     

    Tomice

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    But you just voiced the morron opinion. He's a good defender".

    Cmon bitch, tell me what a good defender is. YOU DONT KNOW IT


    seriously. we got the best defence in europe, and suddenly a benchwarmer from fucking arsenal should replace one of our players, cause 'he's a good defender bro' and he can play the ball.

    Caceres is better then Vermaelen.
    @Zacheryah ,Hi mate

    I don't usally post, but I am lurking daily for many years now and I'v seen many posters come and go,
    not one of those horrific posters has made lurking as painfull as you make it

    You don't come across as a stupid person and that's the only reason i bother reaching out, you do raise intersting points sometimes but the way you go about presenting them and critisizing every other post even when its clear you have no idea what you are talking about is becoming tiring fast and not only for me i'm sure.

    I dont know you personally so I have no idea for what you are trying to compensate for but doing it online isn't the way to go.
    Again, I truly hope you take it in good spirit, do try to be a bit more open-minded and easy going about things, even if you don't agree with them
     

    Bianco2nero

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    May 13, 2012
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    #77
    Well at the moment I live in Belgium and Vermaelen is a good defender.. He is better than Bonucci in my opinion (however, Bonucci can become better than him)..

    I would take Vermaelen over Ogbonna, that's for sure..

    You can do this (just an example)

    Bonucci-Vermaelen-Chiellini
    Barzagli-Bonucci-Vermaelen
    Lichtsteiner-Barzagli-Chiellini-Vermaelen

    He is a very usefull player and someone who is calm and someone who can play football.
     

    Zacheryah

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    Aug 29, 2010
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    Have you considered the gentle approach? Your aggression is so fucking provocative it forces people to disagree with you, out of spite, if nothing else. You might make valid points, but your delivery and presentation is god awful. If you were a salesperson, you'd fail 20 times out of 10. Btw, this is a cold hard fact ;)
    There is a reason why i resent the idea of a job as a salesperson. i'm terrible at it
     

    Völler

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    May 6, 2012
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    @Zacheryah ,Hi mate

    I don't usally post, but I am lurking daily for many years now and I'v seen many posters come and go,
    not one of those horrific posters has made lurking as painfull as you make it

    You don't come across as a stupid person and that's the only reason i bother reaching out, you do raise intersting points sometimes but the way you go about presenting them and critisizing every other post even when its clear you have no idea what you are talking about is becoming tiring fast and not only for me i'm sure.

    I dont know you personally so I have no idea for what you are trying to compensate for but doing it online isn't the way to go.
    Again, I truly hope you take it in good spirit, do try to be a bit more open-minded and easy going about things, even if you don't agree with them
    Nailed it. :agree:
     
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