Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (238 Viewers)

[Alin]

Sure, we usually often agree, I was plenty of times in Bucuresti btw and did a bit of tour Brasov, Sinai, Bustemi, etc. Im patiently waiting to see how this will turn out. It is ok if some people cant hold back, but I think it is too early for drama. With a new coach, a lot of new and young players it was always going to be difficult in the beginning and we are just there, at the start. I see some positives that outweight the negatives atm but it is far from ideal. Losing our best CB took its toll on our defensive solidity. Give it time.

Nice! Hope you enjoyed it around this parts.

Regarding everything else i actually do agree, but only to a certain point, as in it’s definitely too early for drama but it’s also not too early to demand more, being positive and content when drawing once too many times to inferior teams is never a sign of good things to come, although to be fair certain unfortunate circumstances did throw us a bit off track, ultimately what we need right now is a solid string of consecutive wins to get back on track, be it even ugly/narrow wins, it’s usually what leads to further progress and can bring confidence from within.

 

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[juve123]

Sure, we usually often agree, I was plenty of times in Bucuresti btw and did a bit of tour Brasov, Sinai, Bustemi, etc. Im patiently waiting to see how this will turn out. It is ok if some people cant hold back, but I think it is too early for drama. With a new coach, a lot of new and young players it was always going to be difficult in the beginning and we are just there, at the start. I see some positives that outweight the negatives atm but it is far from ideal. Losing our best CB took its toll on our defensive solidity. Give it time.

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Brest are ahead of RM, what an example we are ahead of RM as well.

11/38 rounds played in the league. I just cant

Some people just have sky-high expectations from Motta anything less than a scudetto or champions league quarter final qualification will be a failure for him.

 

[Amer]

Some people just have sky-high expectations from Motta anything less than a scudetto or champions league quarter final qualification will be a failure for him.

Agreed. this is the minimum Juventus should aim for every year, no matter if we're rebuilding or not, especially if one invests 200 million in the transfer market.

 

[Lion]

How dare we as fans ask for a better record than 7 wins in 15 matches.

How dare we ask for such a big task of this manager

 

[Juve92]

Agreed. this is the minimum Juventus should aim for every year, no matter if we're rebuilding or not, especially if one invests 200 million in the transfer market.

Cuntoli fanboys are something else..

 

[Siamak]

ThiagoMotta to ‘Sky Sport’:

DISAPPOINTED WITH THE RESULT -

“I am not satisfied by the result because we were looking for something else, but on performance yes because I'm happy with what we have done. Of course, we can improve certain things but on the performance in general I'm satisfied”

WHAT SHOULD BE IMPROVED -

he“In attack we could have done better in the last 20 meters, mainly in the first half. In the second, the quality of play has improved and we could see it from the beginning that we were facing a team that was looking to counter attack and there the quality of play is really important, not to let the opponent run away. But we have found a team that knew what to do, that has a lot of confidence. It was a nice game but I've seen a great performance by the boys and now we need to recover to focus on the derby”

THE PROJECT IS GOING FORWARD -

“In a goal, there are normally some mistakes that we can surely avoid but in general we had a great game giving continuity to what we are doing. The team has balance, knows where to attack and on the sides we made their lives difficult, we took advantage of the midfielders and the fullbacks that joined. I'm happy with the game reading of the boys on the pitch, with the game we had. And now, we need to recover well and prepare for the next game that will be important because it is a derby. We want to play it at the maximum and I'm happy with what we are doing to date”

YILDIZ AND CONCEICAO TOGETHER -

“The two that played from the beginning are doing well and are in form. We knew it was going to be difficult because Lille closes well and relaunches. On the 1v1, Yildiz and Conceicao have these characteristics that help when we face teams that close their defense. I liked a lot mainly the second half. In the first half, we were a bit low, then we raised the center of gravity and we created so much. I'm happy with both their performances”.

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[Tak!]

How dare we as fans ask for a better record than 7 wins in 15 matches.

How dare we ask for such a big task of this manager

We could have done better, but we changed to a coach with a fundamentally different approach than his predecessor. We have 25 players in the squad, out which three are upgraded from NG this year and nine are brand new. In our starting eleven half or more than half are brand new faces. Our backup striker hasn't played a single game. Our captain suddenly aged five years. Our key player tore his ACL. Nico has been mostly out and not found his rhythm. Most of our signings hasn't really hit the ground yet, Luiz in particular has been an unexpected disaster. We collect PKs and red cards like they were pokemons.

Motta has been some mistakes but in the overall picture I believe in the process. I still believe our goal should be a CL spot, especially after Bremer's injury. Inter are miles ahead of us, Napoli will implode next year and will be interesting to follow once Lukaku starts collapsing.

7/15 isn't good and we should have won against Empoli, Napoli, Cagliari, Frankfurt, Parma and Lille, which would have made it 13/15 and that is asking too much for a team in complete turnover.

What would worry me if I was Motta is that our central midfield is still not working, the build up is completely reliant on Cambiaso. New signings are not half-glass-full, they are a-spoonful-of-water-full. We can't develop chances for Dusan and once he gets them he is unable to consistently convert them.

 

[Hist]

The team that went to the 2nd CL final was his though, not one that was already here and he just took over. He puzzled that team together.

Gradually piece by piece phasing out and phasing in players over multiple seasons not wholesale changes and from 7th.

What we are going through now is more akin to Contes first season. Only there’s no Pirlo and most of the signings appear mediocre. I don’t see a single player being in the Serie A best 11.

 

[Zzak]

Gradually piece by piece phasing out and phasing in players over multiple seasons not wholesale changes and from 7th.

What we are going through now is more akin to Contes first season. Only there’s no Pirlo and most of the signings appear mediocre. I don’t see a single player being in the Serie A best 11.

Conceicao

 

[Amer]

How dare we as fans ask for a better record than 7 wins in 15 matches.

How dare we ask for such a big task of this manager

I don't know bro.

I really tried to fight, to open peoples eyes, focusing on facts.

But sometimes facts hurt.

People don't like them and they live in their dream worlds.

I have a dream also, but I don't go around telling people they are stupid because they don't live my dream of Juve winning a trophy or two a season.

I mean that's not even a dream, right? That's just being real and expecting something usual for a club of Juventus stature.

You know what I'm saying?

It's tough out here.

I know.

 

[Alex-444]

Gradually piece by piece phasing out and phasing in players over multiple seasons not wholesale changes and from 7th.

What we are going through now is more akin to Contes first season. Only there’s no Pirlo and most of the signings appear mediocre. I don’t see a single player being in the Serie A best 11.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Agreed. this is the minimum Juventus should aim for every year, no matter if we're rebuilding or not, especially if one invests 200 million in the transfer market.

You think that this is a top 8 squad in all of Europe?

 

[Amer]

You think that this is a top 8 squad in all of Europe?

Actually far from it. I voted 2 or 3 when it comes to Giuntoli's summer Mercato. Can't really remember. Members here were laughing and insulting me, calling for a ban.

I knew he did a terrible job spending those 200 million. And look where we are today. Just 7 wins out of 15.

 

[JuveJay]

Actually far from it. I voted 2 or 3 when it comes to Giuntoli's summer Mercato. Can't really remember. Members here were laughing and insulting me, calling for a ban.

I knew he did a terrible job spending those 200 million. And look where we are today. Just 7 wins out of 15.

I guess you're in it for the long haul then huh?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Actually far from it. I voted 2 or 3 when it comes to Giuntoli's summer Mercato. Can't really remember. Members here were laughing and insulting me, calling for a ban.

I knew he did a terrible job spending those 200 million. And look where we are today. Just 7 wins out of 15.

But then by what means should we be expecting to reach the CL quarterfinals? And if we're not in the top 8 in Europe, then we're certainly not the best in Italy either.

 

[Lion]

guintoli and motta fans are caught in a dilemma

do they defend motta and admit guintoli failed to build a proper squad and wasted money on the likes of di gargoyle and luiz? but then they would need to admit guintoli sucks which they spent all summer defending and justifying his actions.

or do they the throw motta under the bus by saying the signings are good, but motta is bad.....but then motta is also a guintoli appointment so they look like fools yet again for defending guintoli


they can't admit one or the other because it means dear guintoli failed.

 

[Hist]

guintoli and motta fans are caught in a dilemma

do they defend motta and admit guintoli failed to build a proper squad and wasted money on the likes of di gargoyle and luiz? but then they would need to admit guintoli sucks which they spent all summer defending and justifying his actions.

or do they the throw motta under the bus by saying the signings are good, but motta is bad.....but then motta is also a guintoli appointment so they look like fools yet again for defending guintoli


they can't admit one or the other because it means dear guintoli failed.

I am not sold on either of them yet but am inclined towards thinking Motta is good, and needs more time + players.

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Conceicao

The only one we don't own but maybe you are right. He does have potential. Who does he compete against? Pulisic?

Kavara and Leao both levels above but on the left.

 

[Amer]

But then by what means should we be expecting to reach the CL quarterfinals? And if we're not in the top 8 in Europe, then we're certainly not the best in Italy either.

By investing those 200 million in the right way and on time which some of us here said in July.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

By investing those 200 million in the right way and on time which some of us here said in July.

This has nothing to do with the performance of the coach though

 

[Amer]

This has nothing to do with the performance of the coach though

It has everything to do with the coach who requested the new players. Also he ousted some players, then reintegrated some of them. Amateurish.