Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (73 Viewers)

[Lion]

Conte also got some reinforcments in the winter that season - i think it was Caceres, Padoin and some striker. Difference is also no European football that season ofc.

Big difference is Juventus finished that that half season as winter champions. And as @Alen will tell you, any team that finishes series a as winter champion is 98% likely to finish as season champions. I think it’s happened almost always except maybe a few odd times.

This season juve is no where near top

 

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[MrMonkey]

Our core signings:
Douglas Luiz - 343 minutes in all competitions, no goals or assists, total failure
Koopmeiners - 1537 minutes in all competitions, 2 goals and 3 assists, failure
Nico Gonzalez - 407 minutes in all competitions, 3 goals and 2 assists, total failure

Right there 3 main signings and 3 reasons why team doesn't have more points. Have confidence in Motta getting the best out of Koop and Nico going forward. Luiz lots of prayers needed. Forget the scedutto but Motta has to get us CL qualification.

 

[Ventus]

this why it's so dangerous to get a coach or player who had one good season.

motta signed after one good season
koop signed after one good season
di gregorio signed after one good season

all have failed. this is why i can't take anyone who suggests signing a player who has one good season seriously.

De Ligt as well.

 

[.zero]

Told y’all but Jj and its fans had wet socks for Motta just for knocking out merda in coppa

 

[Ventus]

Some managers are just better off at smaller teams. Take Moyes for example.

 

[Amer]

Should I write anything here on the last day of 2024?

Should I?

Will thee listen?

Will thee judge?

 

[Vlad]

Some managers are just better off at smaller teams. Take Moyes for example.

Yeah, plenty of examples when managers failed to deliver on a big stage while having a great time at clubs with less pressure. They are given more time to work and implement their ideas. At Juve, manager needs to hit the ground running or fans and media will turn against him quickly. Then the pressure kicks in, players become rattled and mistakes start to pile up. However, Motta has been given fair amount of time. He is also very rigid. We are seeing the same shit each game and he isnt willing to change the setup or approach. If something isnt working, there is little sense insisting on it. Can the new year bring something different from this team? Im still hoping... Not a fan of recycling managers but so far he has flopped miserably. At this point, I think he needs a miracle to remain our coach for the next season.

 

[juve123]

Yeah, plenty of examples when managers failed to deliver on a big stage while having a great time at clubs with less pressure. They are given more time to work and implement their ideas. At Juve, manager needs to hit the ground running or fans and media will turn against him quickly. Then the pressure kicks in, players become rattled and mistakes start to pile up. However, Motta has been given fair amount of time. He is also very rigid. We are seeing the same shit each game and he isnt willing to change the setup or approach. If something isnt working, there is little sense insisting on it. Can the new year bring something different from this team? Im still hoping... Not a fan of recycling managers but so far he has flopped miserably. At this point, I think he needs a miracle to remain our coach for the next season.

Again isn't it too early to judge him?Lets wait till March or April to reach such a conclusion.

 

[Amer]

Again isn't it too early to judge him?Lets wait till March or April to reach such a conclusion.

Once upon a time a man said the season starts in March. Good times. We used to win a trophy or two a season.

 

[.zero]

Should I write anything here on the last day of 2024?

Should I?

Will thee listen?

Will thee judge?

Tell us about Pogba in 2024

 

[Amer]

Tell us about Pogba in 2024

Voodoo strong in that one was.

 

[rainhard]

He won both match against Atalanta last season

His first half of season for Bologna for 19 matches last season he collected 32 points (8 wins, 8 draws, 3 losses) , we already got 32 points in 18 games

 

[Amer]

He won both match against Atalanta last season

His first half of season for Bologna for 19 matches last season he collected 32 points (8 wins, 8 draws, 3 losses) , we already got 32 points in 18 games

Nice troll attempt bro, compering us to a random club like Bologna.

 

[Ventus]

Again isn't it too early to judge him?Lets wait till March or April to reach such a conclusion.

I kind of want to see whether we can finish 4th unbeaten. So I want to keep him, so long as we get 4th.

 

[.zero]

Agent interista at work at Jj

 

[Lion]

He won both match against Atalanta last season

His first half of season for Bologna for 19 matches last season he collected 32 points (8 wins, 8 draws, 3 losses) , we already got 32 points in 18 games

Bad comparison. Someone smart like you knows why it’s bad

 

[Orgut]

There are good and bad if you look at Motta.
The good is the team can pass the ball
The bad - despite a gameplan - players seem too frightened trying some threw balls, and we look like a team that dont really create (final 3rd)
Mentality is also a downside as the team is too frightened about its lead that we invite the equalizers.

Results wise Allegri is more proven but Motta actually has a gameplan and can fix the team (maybe even in this winter window)
a good defender, a LW and a striker would change a lot IMO
Even if I am not a fan of the Motta playstyle I think he deserves to finish the season. I just hope he changes things - He definitely understand the situation as he tried introducing a support striker with N.G lately which suggests he understand the lack of power upfront.

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I kind of want to see whether we can finish 4th unbeaten. So I want to keep him, so long as we get 4th.

Yeah that unbeaten trophy.. I would gladly swap these 11 draws with 6 wins and 5 losses... Unbeaten means nothing if we do not achieve anything (like the Scudetto)

 

[Ventus]

There are good and bad if you look at Motta.
The good is the team can pass the ball
The bad - despite a gameplan - players seem too frightened trying some threw balls, and we look like a team that dont really create (final 3rd)
Mentality is also a downside as the team is too frightened about its lead that we invite the equalizers.

Results wise Allegri is more proven but Motta actually has a gameplan and can fix the team (maybe even in this winter window)
a good defender, a LW and a striker would change a lot IMO
Even if I am not a fan of the Motta playstyle I think he deserves to finish the season. I just hope he changes things - He definitely understand the situation as he tried introducing a support striker with N.G lately which suggests he understand the lack of power upfront.

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Yeah that unbeaten trophy.. I would gladly swap these 11 draws with 6 wins and 5 losses... Unbeaten means nothing if we do not achieve anything (like the Scudetto)

It's never happened before. I did not deem it possible so now I'm intrigued...

 

[Hist]

conte had pirlo, buffon, del piero, vidal, chiellini, barzagli, licht from day one. they were ALL mature, very high level players. he also had mature, good players like vucinic, matri, pepe, and prospects with potential like marchisio and bonucci. the two squads are simply not comparable. in their best form, only cambiaso and vlahovic would start for that team (and considering his recent form, vlahovic would be currently benched by matri). and the club had actual leadership and a new stadium to boost the morale.

not an excuse for yesterday's result. any decent team should have won a match like that. it was a combination of bad luck and bad match management. still, it's useless to compare that situation with this one, even if you ignore the difference between the coaches.

I think its pretty clear at this point that he's not the next Conte, and Guintoli is clearly not the next Beppe. Doesn't mean Motta is shit there are plenty of excellent coaches that cannot replicate what Conte/Beppe did with us in 2011.

 

[s4tch]

I think its pretty clear at this point that he's not the next Conte, and Guintoli is clearly not the next Beppe. Doesn't mean Motta is shit there are plenty of excellent coaches that cannot replicate what Conte/Beppe did with us in 2011.

yeah, and the passengers in the management (winnie the pooh and scanavino) aren't at 2011 unibrow level of motivation and dedication either. from bottom to top, this is a weaker club than the 2011 one, especially if you include finances, new stadium effect, etc

i just find it ridiculous that if someone isn't the new marotta/conte then they are automatically SHIT. like there's only two categories of professionals: you're either god mode or SHIT. that's tuz for you. and to some extent, most internet discussions too - while 99% of people or things are some shades of gray instead of black or white, or either extremes on a linear scale