Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (126 Viewers)

[PhRoZeN]

Motta:"There’s no such thing as a perfect moment to face City. I don’t think there ever is crisis for a team like city . We will give our best, trying to limit their play while expressing our own."

This is in fact the perfect time, on any given day we would lose, but this Mottaball will earn us another draw, irrespective of how good or bad city is.

 

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[mondo1]

Cambiaso getting injured early on, messed up our gameplan. We are running out of players at this point since there is a new injury almost each game.

Which gameplan? We looked as clueless with Cambiasso on…. Excuses everywhere…. We suck simple as that


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[s4tch]

just read his post-match comments on tuttojuve. the last q+a was telling:

Oggi la peggior Juve della stagione? È mancato Thuram?
"Non è mancato nessuno. Un problema tattico ed è colpa mia. Non siamo stati in grado di superare la pressione".

was this the worst juve of the season? was thuram missed?
we missed nobody. there was a tactical problem and it's my fault. we couldn't deal with the pressing.

exactly, that's something i also made a remark on in the live bread. bologna did well to press with 5 players constantly, from the moment perin touched the ball, and we couldn't handle it at all. and that's where motta was wrong: fagioli and locatelli both played a very bad game, thuram was missed very much as they couldn't tackle him without a foul, he should have started or at least been subbed in at half time. thuram and koop are two mids who can handle intensity. either of them should always play alongside locatelli, and i'd even try them as our double pivot. after the subs, that's what happened when yildiz moved to the middle between cisco and mbamgula. that's something to explore, much more dynamic than anything fagioli and locatelli can offer. i really hope motta draws the same conclusion and we won't see fagioli and locatelli together

 

[Scottish]

This is in fact the perfect time, on any given day we would lose, but this Mottaball will earn us another draw, irrespective of how good or bad city is.

So it's a negative draw or a healthy loss incoming?

If we somehow win it would be a disaster

 

[U Picciriddu]

just read his post-match comments on tuttojuve. the last q+a was telling:

Oggi la peggior Juve della stagione? È mancato Thuram?
"Non è mancato nessuno. Un problema tattico ed è colpa mia. Non siamo stati in grado di superare la pressione".

was this the worst juve of the season? was thuram missed?
we missed nobody. there was a tactical problem and it's my fault. we couldn't deal with the pressing.

exactly, that's something i also made a remark on in the live bread. bologna did well to press with 5 players constantly, from the moment perin touched the ball, and we couldn't handle it at all. and that's where motta was wrong: fagioli and locatelli both played a very bad game, thuram was missed very much as they couldn't tackle him without a foul, he should have started or at least been subbed in at half time. thuram and koop are two mids who can handle intensity. either of them should always play alongside locatelli, and i'd even try them as our double pivot. after the subs, that's what happened when yildiz moved to the middle between cisco and mbamgula. that's something to explore, much more dynamic than anything fagioli and locatelli can offer. i really hope motta draws the same conclusion and we won't see fagioli and locatelli together

I don’t understand how we managed our midfield. It looked like a 4-1-1-1-2-1, had the idea often that Locatelli, Fagioli and Koopmeiners stood in a vertical line, looking to the field from our goal.

The obvious thing for me seems a normal 3-man midfield. Said it before and quite sure I’ve seen more people asking for it.

 

[Lion]

Has a coach ever been sacked while undefeated in the league

yeah good question, but then if you aren't winning then you are losing. sooo in a sense he is defeated

 

[s4tch]

motta threw the ball towards the ref lol

of course it was unacceptable. and at the same time thank you motta, mofo was terrible at his job

 

[PhRoZeN]

motta threw the ball towards the ref lol

of course it was unacceptable. and at the same time thank you motta, mofo was terrible at his job

It's almost like he planned it, casually unzipped his jacket as he walked out

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So it's a negative draw or a healthy loss incoming?

If we somehow win it would be a disaster

Intriguing isn't it, can we be the team that turns around Guardiolas fortune or the team that lives by it's name, Drawventus.

 

[Salvo]

What is confusing for me is that we couldnt build out from the back. My guess is that Motta wanted to play Fagioli and Loca to beat their press with passes, we often had all of our 3 mids flat when building out from goalkeeper kicks but nearly always went for long balls. It's just very odd, if the plan was to beat them with passing out from deep why not play Di Gre?

Regardless of what he wants to do in the future we must play Koop and one of Loca or Thuram next to him with Yildiz central. 4 4 1 1 defensively and a 4 2 2 2 in attack. Let Yildiz move where he wants but start centrally.

In an ideal world to be honest I'd play something closer to the 4 3 2 1 with Chico and Yildiz quite narrow but we only really have one fullback to make that work and it's Cambiaso. It could work if Chico stays wider and and doesn't have to track back as much with Savona staying lower with our center backs and Loca hanging back as well with Koop pushing forward. We need more bodies centrally making runs to open up space.

 

[Rockets]

If ever there were a Nobel Peace for Peace Draw he shall be awarded.

 

[Xperd]

I'm fully willing to give him 3 seasons in order to try to implement something, don't care what anyone else says here.


That's what the whole forum is like, and why people post less now.

2 years imo. This year is definitely 'dont judge' territory.

We need to be competing for trophies from next year. I am optimistic because he finished 9th in his first year at Bologna and then improved massively the following year by finishing 4th.

If he's producing the same kind of football with a fully fit squad, then there would be massive concerns but he deserves the benefit of the doubt for now. No other club is dealing with an injury crisis quite like we are atm.

Giuntoli should also support him by having a less chaotic market than this year.

 

[Amer]

Hm, would you look at that, it was almost a comeback against Bologna without our coach on the sidelines.

Just saying.

 

[Zzak]

Allegri was class compared to this turd. Everytime I defended him I was called a throater but the guy won us a trophy and qualified us for CL. Neither seem probable with Motta.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Gigi Maifredi 2.0

 

[Alen]

The last 20 years after 15 rounds. Motta has one of the worst records. This is pretty much the level of Del Neri, Ferrara, Pirlo and Ranieri (even a bit worse).
Then again, Allegri won the league in 2015/16

Allegri 2018/19 --- 14-1-0 (32:8) 43 points
Capello 2005/06 --- 14-0-1 (35:8) 42 points
Conte 2013/14 --- 13-1-1 (31:10) 40 points
Allegri 2017/18 --- 12-1-2 (41:14) 37 points
Deschamps 2006/07 --- 11-4-0 (28:6) 37 points
Allegri 2014/15 --- 11-3-1 (31:6) 36 points
Allegri 2016/17 --- 12-0-3 (32:13) 36 points
Allegri 2023/24 --- 11-3-1 (23:9) 36 points
Sarri 2019/20 --- 11-3-1 (26:15) 36 points
Conte 2012/13 --- 11-2-2 (32:10) 35 points
Allegri 2022/23 --- 9-4-2 (24:7) 31 points
Conte 2011/12 --- 8-7-0 (25:11) 31 points
Pirlo 2020/21 --- 8-6-1 (31:15) 30 points
Ranieri 2008/09 --- 9-3-3 (23:10) 30 points
Ferrara 2009/10 --- 9-3-3 (28:16) 30 points
Ranieri 2007/08 --- 8-5-2 (30:13) 29 points
Del Neri 2010/11 --- 7-6-2 (29:15) 27 points
Motta 2024/25 --- 6-9-0 (24:10) 27 points
Allegri 2015/16 --- 8-3-4 (22:11) 27 points
Allegri 2021/22 --- 7-3-5 (20:16) 24 points

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

The last 20 years after 15 rounds. Motta has one of the worst records. This is pretty much the level of Del Neri, Ferrara, Pirlo and Ranieri (even a bit worse).
Then again, Allegri won the league in 2015/16

Allegri 2018/19 --- 14-1-0 (32:8) 43 points
Capello 2005/06 --- 14-0-1 (35:8) 42 points
Conte 2013/14 --- 13-1-1 (31:10) 40 points
Allegri 2017/18 --- 12-1-2 (41:14) 37 points
Deschamps 2006/07 --- 11-4-0 (28:6) 37 points
Allegri 2014/15 --- 11-3-1 (31:6) 36 points
Allegri 2016/17 --- 12-0-3 (32:13) 36 points
Allegri 2023/24 --- 11-3-1 (23:9) 36 points
Sarri 2019/20 --- 11-3-1 (26:15) 36 points
Conte 2012/13 --- 11-2-2 (32:10) 35 points
Allegri 2022/23 --- 9-4-2 (24:7) 31 points
Conte 2011/12 --- 8-7-0 (25:11) 31 points
Pirlo 2020/21 --- 8-6-1 (31:15) 30 points
Ranieri 2008/09 --- 9-3-3 (23:10) 30 points
Ferrara 2009/10 --- 9-3-3 (28:16) 30 points
Ranieri 2007/08 --- 8-5-2 (30:13) 29 points
Del Neri 2010/11 --- 7-6-2 (29:15) 27 points
Motta 2024/25 --- 6-9-0 (24:10) 27 points
Allegri 2015/16 --- 8-3-4 (22:11) 27 points
Allegri 2021/22 --- 7-3-5 (20:16) 24 points

Give me Maifredi’s record. And yes I know he was coach during the 2 points for a win era.

 

[Alen]

Give me Maifredi’s record. And yes I know he was coach during the 2 points for a win era.

7-6-2 (22:13) 27 points
Motta beats him on goal difference

 

[Alin]

motta threw the ball towards the ref lol

of course it was unacceptable. and at the same time thank you motta, mofo was terrible at his job

Probably deserves more patience just based on that reaction alone tbh.

Obviously the injury issues have hindered his/our progress and are a valid excuse, but he also sure needs to get his act together in regards to working on the mentality of the players and tweaking his tactics and choices to maximize the most of who is fit and available on each matchday because dealing with multiple injuries will always be a scenario that he will find himself in around this parts.

 

[Amer]

The last 20 years after 15 rounds. Motta has one of the worst records. This is pretty much the level of Del Neri, Ferrara, Pirlo and Ranieri (even a bit worse).
Then again, Allegri won the league in 2015/16

Allegri 2018/19 --- 14-1-0 (32:8) 43 points
Capello 2005/06 --- 14-0-1 (35:8) 42 points
Conte 2013/14 --- 13-1-1 (31:10) 40 points
Allegri 2017/18 --- 12-1-2 (41:14) 37 points
Deschamps 2006/07 --- 11-4-0 (28:6) 37 points
Allegri 2014/15 --- 11-3-1 (31:6) 36 points
Allegri 2016/17 --- 12-0-3 (32:13) 36 points
Allegri 2023/24 --- 11-3-1 (23:9) 36 points
Sarri 2019/20 --- 11-3-1 (26:15) 36 points
Conte 2012/13 --- 11-2-2 (32:10) 35 points
Allegri 2022/23 --- 9-4-2 (24:7) 31 points
Conte 2011/12 --- 8-7-0 (25:11) 31 points
Pirlo 2020/21 --- 8-6-1 (31:15) 30 points
Ranieri 2008/09 --- 9-3-3 (23:10) 30 points
Ferrara 2009/10 --- 9-3-3 (28:16) 30 points
Ranieri 2007/08 --- 8-5-2 (30:13) 29 points
Del Neri 2010/11 --- 7-6-2 (29:15) 27 points
Motta 2024/25 --- 6-9-0 (24:10) 27 points
Allegri 2015/16 --- 8-3-4 (22:11) 27 points
Allegri 2021/22 --- 7-3-5 (20:16) 24 points

Facts club confirms this.

It's a judgemental statistic, but still, facts are facts.

One can't fight the facts, Unless he is Hitler.

 

[juve123]

Maifredi:"When judging Thiago's work, one cannot ignore the many injuries he has had to deal with. I am convinced that in the long run he will bring his idea of football, but patience is needed.I see more benevolent information towards him. Maybe because even in Turin they have understood that you can't get everything right away. But this story of defensive compactness only holds up in Italy: in the Premier League I don't think the fans celebrate 'clean sheets".