The Wish List and General Discussion Thread (16 Viewers)

[chester]

IMO, his performances for Villareal were impressive enough to talk about a quality player, especially looking at his age.

 

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[Byrone]

you might be right about Cassano if it wasn't for Del Neri and Marotta being here
they know him and know how to get the best out of him
he won't fail at Juve
I'm absolutely sure about that

What do they have to do with it? Completely different atmosphere, completely different expectations & completely difference in press coverage.

Sampdoria do well because they work as a cohesive unit & have gelled, whereas our team is still finding its feet.Individual mistakes & not defending as a team costs us big time.I really don't see Cassano handling the pressure if the team isn't playing well as a whole.He has a tendency to drop his head & become lazy if the team is down.The opposite can be said when the team is in unison.

Plus playing for the most famous & hated club in Italy will certainly put huge pressure on his shoulders coupled with excessive media coverage hovering over him.I'm not entirely convinced he can handle all of that.

You think Benzema is a potential to become a great striker? He's way passed that stage IMO. He's only minus in his resume is the move to Real which was a wrong career choice, nothing else. The guy scored 50 goals in his 2 last seasons in Lyon, not just in Ligue but in CL against much stronger teams. And the guy is not even 23 yet..

Cassano is great but will always be an enigma. Sampdoria should be his choice for life. He may have settled down, but I don't think he could handle the pressure here. Just imagine if it was him in Diego's place last year...he would have refused training by mid-season and requested a transfer. In Sampdoria he can basically do no wrong. Del Neri and Marrota are here true, but this is Juventus, that was Sampdoria...there's no excuses here.

Don't get me wrong, I'm pro-Cassano overall, he's worth the gamble, but if the choice is between Benz or him....for me it's a no-brainer.

Couldn't have said it any better.

Do you remember the 1-1 draw with Lyon/Manure? Benzema raped the defensive duo of Ferdinand & Vidic when they were still in their prime. They were all over him like a cheap suit & yet he managed to score an absolute beauty.

Some circumstances also play part in one's decision. Looking purely at our options at prima and seconda punta, we have:

1. Antonio Cassano - Kun Aguero
- The latter is very hard to get. Not gonna leave for less than 40m eur and we will certainly get opposition from big teams. If we don't get Cassano, we will most probably miss out on Kun too and we'll be left with....37 year old Del Piero.
2. Karim Benzema, Edin Dzeko, Giampaolo Pazzini
- Pazzini is mentioned as someone who scores a lot when he plays together with Cassano. If we miss out on Benzema we will still be one of the strong favorites to sign Dzeko. All the happenings from this summer, our relationship with Wolfsburg etc, leave us good chances to sign Dzeko.

In short, not buying Cassano will almost surely leave us weak in SS. Not buying Benzema still leaves us options at the target man position.

Of course, there are many potential cons in buying Cassano. Very complicated matter which will in the end be decided by some details and the preferences of our directors.

In any case, I will be happy if we buy Cassano or Benzema. Both are huge improvement over what we have.

I'd be happy if we got either one too, but if it boiled down to choosing one, Benzema would be my first choice.If Cassano were to join us, i'd love for him to prove me wrong & work his magic here.

I just hope with all those names listed above, the one player is really, really don't want in this team is Pazzini.

 

[Alessandro]

Some circumstances also play part in one's decision. Looking purely at our options at prima and seconda punta, we have:

1. Antonio Cassano - Kun Aguero
- The latter is very hard to get. Not gonna leave for less than 40m eur and we will certainly get opposition from big teams. If we don't get Cassano, we will most probably miss out on Kun too and we'll be left with....37 year old Del Piero.
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In short, not buying Cassano will almost surely leave us weak in SS. Not buying Benzema still leaves us options at the target man position.

Rossi? Or someone else? There are more then 3 SSs on the planet.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Don't know if that is sufficient, Bonucci - Chiellini partnership didn't seem very reliable yet either, let's hope they will improve when playing more togheter.

I wonder if Chiellini & Bonucci are compatible. I hope they are, but I'm not sure.

Cassano is way ahead in all those things though B. He would last another 4 seasons for sure.

For sure? I'm sorry, but that's just impossible to predict. He might not even last one season at a big club.

IMO, his performances for Villareal were impressive enough to talk about a quality player, especially looking at his age.

I would welcome Rossi with open arms.

 

[Byrone]

I'm sure you'd welcome him with open legs too.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Nah, he's not really my type.




Manual labour is where I would draw the line.

 

[Byrone]

I hear you, love the avatar btw, only noticed it now.

 

[Alen]

Rossi? Or someone else? There are more then 3 SSs on the planet.

Yes there are. On one side you have Messi, Ronaldo, Ibra which we can't buy and on the other side you have guys like Rossi who won't really improve what we already have there with Del Piero and Quag.

I think it was obvious that I was talking about players who will drastically improve our team and could actually be bought by Juve.

I guess the misunderstanding comes from the way we rate some players. I don't rate Rossi as someone worthy to replace Del Piero.

 

[Nicholas]

For sure? I'm sorry, but that's just impossible to predict. He might not even last one season at a big club.

I can predict it and it's the truth . Juventus is the perfect environment for Cassano.

But honestly I think he would thrive here.

 

[only-juve]

What do they have to do with it? Completely different atmosphere, completely different expectations & completely difference in press coverage.

Sampdoria do well because they work as a cohesive unit & have gelled, whereas our team is still finding its feet.Individual mistakes & not defending as a team costs us big time.I really don't see Cassano handling the pressure if the team isn't playing well as a whole.He has a tendency to drop his head & become lazy if the team is down.The opposite can be said when the team is in unison.

Plus playing for the most famous & hated club in Italy will certainly put huge pressure on his shoulders coupled with excessive media coverage hovering over him.I'm not entirely convinced he can handle all of that.

Thank you :hellyes:

Plus Cassano is already 28 (next summer he'll be 29). Is it really worth it to spend 20-25 millions on a 29 year old "unpredictable" Cassano. That train already left and we better look at other alternatives.

Cassano said it many times that he's happy at Sampdoria and i think he finally found his right place to settle for the final years in his career .......

 

[IrishZebra]

Suarez and a Left Winger, Left Back plus a regista that can tackle.

Job done.

 

[blondu]

neymar, lw and i'm pleased

 

[Byrone]

Dzeko/Benzema, Cassano/Aguero, Tremoulinas/Cissokho & Elia.

Those four players here would make me lose my marbles.

 

[Hust]

I think Dzeko & Benzema would be fine for an attack. Thoughts?

 

[Red]

I think Dzeko & Benzema would be fine for an attack. Thoughts?

I like a two man attack to have one player who will drop deep to get the ball/be able to play with his back to goal and one man to be more of a goal scorer and looking to always be in goal scoring positions and running in behind the defence.

In short, I think they are too similar.

 

[Hust]

I like a two man attack to have one player who will drop deep to get the ball/be able to play with his back to goal and one man to be more of a goal scorer and looking to always be in goal scoring positions and running in behind the defence.

In short, I think they are too similar.

I watched the extended highlights of France v Bosnia, it seems like Karim was drifting back both on the left and right. He was always making himself available to receive the ball then work his way up to form an attack. Obviously he knows how to get into goal scoring positions but in that game specifically it seemed like he was playing a slightly different role. He isn't bad with the ball at his feet at all.

 

[Nicholas]

I like a two man attack to have one player who will drop deep to get the ball/be able to play with his back to goal and one man to be more of a goal scorer and looking to always be in goal scoring positions and running in behind the defence.

In short, I think they are too similar.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

funes mori with another monster game and goal, more signs this guy just might be the real deal

 

[Red]

I watched the extended highlights of France v Bosnia, it seems like Karim was drifting back both on the left and right. He was always making himself available to receive the ball then work his way up to form an attack. Obviously he knows how to get into goal scoring positions but in that game specifically it seemed like he was playing a slightly different role. He isn't bad with the ball at his feet at all.

Benzema is a good footballer, so he can do other things if he needs to, but he is primarily a goal scorer..

I like a front two in a 4-4-2 to consist of a striker who is mostly a creator, who can also link with midfield, and a striker who is more of a pure goal scorer.

 

[chester]

I wonder if Chiellini & Bonucci are compatible. I hope they are, but I'm not sure.

I share the feeling

I would welcome Rossi with open arms.

At least, someone shares my views on this guy, he has been performing good in one of the strongest leagues in Europe for 3 seasons now, I really wonder why people don't want him here.