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giovanotti

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If we a going to play 4-2-3-1, so from this "3" we have first choice LW(Gio) and AMC (Diego), and second choice RW (Camo).
So we need:
1. Right winger for starting XI.
2. Left winger for a bench (good if he can play AMC). And this role also can be covered by Iago, Rossi etc.
But this is the right question Alessandro,are we gonna play 4-2-3-1 or what tactics are we gonna use?
That mostly depends on our next or present coach.
 

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Byrone

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I'm not familiar with him.:pumpkin:

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If we a going to play 4-2-3-1, so from this "3" we have first choice LW(Gio) and AMC (Diego), and second choice RW (Camo).
So we need:
1. Right winger for starting XI.
2. Left winger for a bench (good if he can play AMC). And this role also can be covered by Iago, Rossi etc.
What makes you think we can rely on Camo,on a consistent basis? What makes you think that Giovinco won't be sold or Iago & Rossi sent on loan?
 

Alessandro

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Well his performances for Bordeaux suggest he is.He could easily play in a 4-2-2-2 formation granted we get proper coverage for CB,LB & RB.
2DMC+2AMC... it's crazy ;-))) Where are the wings? This season didn't teach u? ;-)
We could even use a 4-2-3-1 formation & i don't see an issue there.
It was said that winger position is not the best one for Diego and Gourcuff. Why should we buy someone and than try to fix some SUDDEN problems, because we have to many central players and no wingers at all, like it was in this season with 5(!)MC/DMC and only 2 wingers.

I don't want to say that Gourcuff is bad player. He's good. But we need AMC in last resort. We already have AMC and have to fix other areas.
 

giovanotti

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you know wha i wish for....a flexible team, with varrying tactics
That makes to of us juventino.
But doubt that we'll spend so much money to build a team possessing that quality.

But on the other hand we used so many types (unsuccessfuly of course) from 3-4-1-2 (didn't even dream about that possibility) to 4-3-2-1.. We didn't try 4-4-2 only.

Our top priority should be investing a lot of money into our defense.
 

Alessandro

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What makes you think we can rely on Camo,on a consistent basis?
We can rely on Camo as substitute. Definitely. He's passion and experience can be useful if things are bad at the end of the match, and he can play some full games when first choice RW (not injury prone) will be suspended for example.
What makes you think that Giovinco won't be sold or Iago & Rossi sent on loan?
I just hope for that. It's stupid to sell/loan out our players to buy someone else for same positions. And also it's waste of money on transfers and wages.
So or we are going to play without wings and Gio will be sold or he'll stay.
 

CarloP

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Lets not go into 41212 other creative formation to suit one single purchase

Gourcouff has not been excellent in ligue 1 lately (even Blanc has admitted that he has not replicated the form, from the beginning of the season) Don't kill me if im wrong, I haven't seen the matches just read about them. He does get credit from scoring important cl goals though.

We need to buy to suit the formation our new coach wants to play. Not the reverse, on a player flopping in the seria a once.

What is the point in buying Gourcouf and then play Diego out of position, instead of buying a winger and play everybody in position. You can argue Diego for Gourcouff. Thats fine, I just think we're going to kick ourselves for doing that.

I argue Di Maria all the time. Then we'd have Di Maria, Gio for the left Diego, Candreva, Camo and Gio for Center and Camo, Candreva for the right. Gio would be used bc of rotation an injuries and everbody will play their favourite position.

It like this summer, we needed D'ago but bought Melo, now we need width, so we should not buy another treqaurtista.
Fair enough. Some of us want this player and some of us want that player instead. I could argue Di Maria could just as well be a flop. He's never played in a high profile league and we would have to change our formation again to a 433 most likely.

I think what those of us who want Gourcuff are trying to say is, he is quickly becoming one of the best players in the world. He also speaks Italian and he's at his best in the biggest matches (imagine him destroying meelan twice a year). Not to mention his style is as close as you can get to Zizou.
 

Joey Jokes

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sorry -- i meant working variations....alla inter dare I say...

but regarding the mercato,,,,at this point, knowing our board, i will take a defender, ANY young and promising defender....I just know I am going to wake up one day this summer and read --> Yepes, or Favalli, or barzagli, or zaccardo to juve followed by some retarded press conference by blanc claiming that he is the man for the fucking project...I think that will be the straw that breaks my bond with juve, and drive me insane
 

giovanotti

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sorry -- i meant working variations....alla inter dare I say...

but regarding the mercato,,,,at this point, knowing our board, i will take a defender, ANY young and promising defender....I just know I am going to wake up one day this summer and read --> Yepes, or Favalli, or barzagli, or zaccardo to juve followed by some retarded press conference by blanc claiming that he is the man for the fucking project...I think that will be the straw that breaks my bond with juve, and drive me insane
I just hope that we'll spend a lot while investing in our defense.

But that all depends on whether we get that 4th spot or not.
 

Jasp

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Fair enough. Some of us want this player and some of us want that player instead. I could argue Di Maria could just as well be a flop. He's never played in a high profile league and we would have to change our formation again to a 433 most likely.

I think what those of us who want Gourcuff are trying to say is, he is quickly becoming one of the best players in the world. He also speaks Italian and he's at his best in the biggest matches (imagine him destroying meelan twice a year). Not to mention his style is as close as you can get to Zizou.
I agree with you that Di Maria could flop, almost any player could. Di Maria would be good in 433, 4231 and 442. We have a Gourcouff, and his name is Diego. I want to give him another season on a team that is capable of performing.

I am against Gorucouff AND Diego, Gourcouff for Diego- ok but it's not the smartest way to spend our money imo.

Imagine a team with width that destroys Milan twice a year !
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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It's ridiculous to sell one winger to buy another.
And "buying Gourcuff" is he thing we do all the time: buy players that we don't need. We hadn't full-backs but bought DMs. Now we haven't wingers but you advise to buy AMC.

Are you Secco? ;-)
No, clearly I'm not Secco. It's not ridiculous to sell one winger for another. I'm not saying necassarily to sell Diego rather move him and incorporate an adequate partner for him to work with and they both can shoulder some of the creative/attacking burden. We have been saying that all season that Diego can't do it himself. Well, Gourcuff could be your answer. IMO who would be better and would make more of an immediate impact?
I agree here.
But the main problem is ,if Zac remains, he will not use Gio.
I disagree with ya Gio. If an option for Gourcuff comes along we would be dumb not to at least consider it. You know Milan are kicking themselves for it. The kid is like a mini Zizou replica.
For one he'd be a massive upgrade in terms of quality,vision & passing.Qualities that we severely lack in this team.

Its Zidane's fault that Benzema is a flop at Real! That was your famous line,so don't throw stones when you have a massive boulder over your head.
Absolutely Byrone. Our vision, quality in and around the box would go up ten fold.
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Lets not go into 41212 other creative formation to suit one single purchase

Gourcouff has not been excellent in ligue 1 lately (even Blanc has admitted that he has not replicated the form, from the beginning of the season) Don't kill me if im wrong, I haven't seen the matches just read about them. He does get credit from scoring important cl goals though.

We need to buy to suit the formation our new coach wants to play. Not the reverse, on a player flopping in the seria a once.

What is the point in buying Gourcouf and then play Diego out of position, instead of buying a winger and play everybody in position. You can argue Diego for Gourcouff. Thats fine, I just think we're going to kick ourselves for doing that.

I argue Di Maria all the time. Then we'd have Di Maria, Gio for the left Diego, Candreva, Camo and Gio for Center and Camo, Candreva for the right. Gio would be used bc of rotation an injuries and everbody will play their favourite position.

It like this summer, we needed D'ago but bought Melo, now we need width, so we should not buy another treqaurtista.
I told you guys we needed D'ago last year but no one really listened. A 4231 will give us plenty of width and we all see how Camo/Diego rotation, overlap and change positions all across the midfield. This isn't FM where computer algorythms can only allow players to stay in their respective positions. Remember how often Nedved would cut inside? Thats what made him so dangerous.
Just get Aguero.
Or that.
and Krasic.
and Kolarov.
and Kjaer.
And that.
Well his performances for Bordeaux suggest he is.He could easily play in a 4-2-2-2 formation granted we get proper coverage for CB,LB & RB. We could even use a 4-2-3-1 formation & i don't see an issue there.
There is no issue, some people don't like trying to think outside the box.
you know wha i wish for....a flexible team, with varrying tactics
New guy gets a :tup:
we certainly have varying tactics
Considering the injuries we aren't so flexible though...:D
We can rely on Camo as substitute. Definitely. He's passion and experience can be useful if things are bad at the end of the match, and he can play some full games when first choice RW (not injury prone) will be suspended for example.

I just hope for that. It's stupid to sell/loan out our players to buy someone else for same positions. And also it's waste of money on transfers and wages.
So or we are going to play without wings and Gio will be sold or he'll stay.
Its not stupid when you sell a player that isn't performing and buy one in the same position that will. Camo can't be relied on. He is old, always injured and hot and cold. The few minutes he does get between injuries there is no gurantee that he will perform or just be another ghost on the field.
Fair enough. Some of us want this player and some of us want that player instead. I could argue Di Maria could just as well be a flop. He's never played in a high profile league and we would have to change our formation again to a 433 most likely.

I think what those of us who want Gourcuff are trying to say is, he is quickly becoming one of the best players in the world. He also speaks Italian and he's at his best in the biggest matches (imagine him destroying meelan twice a year). Not to mention his style is as close as you can get to Zizou.
There are plenty of reasons why we should go after Gourcuff, I don't see that many why we shouldn't.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Boring today...everywhere. What the hell guys, I have to work in an hour...I bet you all will come out and start posting then.

"Hustini is gone, quick everyone start posting until he gets back"


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