The Super League (32 Viewers)

[Valerio.]

Psg is not there because of Qatar WC, Bayern are just waiting.

Real and Barca being there makes me certain it will happen. Hell, already happened.

Forza

Germans team won't join until last second.
As they have the 50+1 rule so they're handled by fans and not by owners

 

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[kappa96]

 

[Ronn]

We will see.

I’m having a feeling UEFA will have the last laugh in this.

If you think football dies with TSL, watch it if UEFA wins with a brute force monopolistic response.

 

[Strickland]

@Strickland Now when you mention Milan vs Atalanta...

I think you should also compare Milan over the years and how their wage bill moved drastically. When they were at their prime, playing CL finals, their wage bill was 120mln euros (as a comparison, we spent 96mln, Inter spent 110mln Roma 90mln while Atalanta spent 11mln euros). Then you have to take into consideration how money was more valuable back in the days, since 100mln back in 2006 isn't as much as 100mln today.

Then you start seeing Milan's downfall. They didn't manage to replace their oldies and they started crumbling year by year. They literally turned from one of the strongest clubs in Europe, to one of the shittiest mid-table clubs who managed to finish 8th and who did shit for plenty of years in Serie A while failing to see EL, let alone Champions League.

They have a giant fan base, they get lots of money from sponsors due to their brand, and they filled their stadium alongside with the big TV rights. Still, after so many years, they are on a 80mln wage bill and after so many years of being shit, they managed to grab a CL spot.

At the same time you see Atalanta getting CL places, you see them rising their wage bill from 11mln to 40mln. It's going slowly, yeah, but it's a huge achievement because they have smaller fan base, they get less money from everything. Yet they managed to go from 120mln vs 11mln, to 80mln vs 40mln. They can even beat them at the moment since they are probably a better team.

Now, after all of that, you see Milan getting a special place, totally undeservedly, getting them into Super League. People think they are heroes for having balls since they are risking losing CL spot after so many years without Europe, but truth is, they are doing it because they KNOW they will get MORE money this way. They did not deserve to be in there just like Atalanta deserved to get more money over the years for simply being better.

Old system was not great. And yes, UEFA is horrible and corrupted. But not doing great in Europe, and not being in European Competitions at all, managed to turn teams into bad, rightfully so, because they were dogshit. Super League now places them on the top as untouchable teams granting them a lot more money than they used to have. It makes zero sense. It's same for clubs like Tottenham since they are nobodies.

Oh and yeah, Atalanta, and clubs who managed to fight for their own bread, will get punished for it just because big clubs and clubs who don't deserve to be there, decided to make a different competition so they get more money.

People think this is just heaven but they refuse to see it's all about the money. JP Morgan is in it investing 6 billion euros. They are probably biggest financial terrorists in the world right now. Of course even Super League reeks of corrupt, possibly even more than it is now.

To sum up, Milan has been managed completely horribly, haven't delivered on the pitch for years and years, Atalanta have outperformed them time and time again, yet they could continue like this for another 5 years, another 10 years and Milan would still have twice as much revenue as Atalanta. What does the ESL change? Thats right, nothing, Milan will have more money than Atalanta. Probably the only thing that will change is both will end up with more money if the ESL goes through, as the sport is projected to generate more bucks if we have less Real-Copenhagen and more Real-Juventus.

Of course it is all about money, CL is ineffective in terms of entertainment provided and it needs to be replaced. But I disagree about corruption, I think those risks are way higher in the current model rather than a self-regulating body.

 

[kappa96]

 

[Mark]

waaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Akshen]

will it also be primavera SuperLeague and U-23 Super league? would be sweet, we could sign all the talented youngsters.

 

[BayernFan]

 

[Post Ironic]

To sum up, Milan has been managed completely horribly, haven't delivered on the pitch for years and years, Atalanta have outperformed them time and time again, yet they could continue like this for another 5 years, another 10 years and Milan would still have twice as much revenue as Atalanta. What does the ESL change? Thats right, nothing, Milan will have more money than Atalanta. Probably the only thing that will change is both will end up with more money if the ESL goes through, as the sport is projected to generate more bucks if we have less Real-Copenhagen and more Real-Juventus.

Of course it is all about money, CL is ineffective in terms of entertainment provided and it needs to be replaced. But I disagree about corruption, I think those risks are way higher in the current model rather than a self-regulating body.

100% this

 

[.zero]

UEFA lawyers scrambling having to walk a thin line between slander, libel, antitrust

 

[kappa96]

 

[Post Ironic]

Ceferin

What a hypocritical corrupt stooge

 

[Akshen]

This is all going to one thing - SuperLeague will also be in place of domestic leagues.

 

[kappa96]

Ceferin

What a hypocritical corrupt stooge

Just look how he is avoiding his sweetheart Perez, the president, shifting all the blame on AA.

 

[.zero]

Ceferin

What a hypocritical corrupt stooge

Clearly ceferin didn’t learn not to take business personally lol

 

[BayernFan]

Ceferin

What a hypocritical corrupt stooge

I'm still thinking if all this is a dream, did he really say all this?

 

[Dostoevsky]

To sum up, Milan has been managed completely horribly, haven't delivered on the pitch for years and years, Atalanta have outperformed them time and time again, yet they could continue like this for another 5 years, another 10 years and Milan would still have twice as much revenue as Atalanta. What does the ESL change? Thats right, nothing, Milan will have more money than Atalanta. Probably the only thing that will change is both will end up with more money if the ESL goes through, as the sport is projected to generate more bucks if we have less Real-Copenhagen and more Real-Juventus.

Of course it is all about money, CL is ineffective in terms of entertainment provided and it needs to be replaced. But I disagree about corruption, I think those risks are way higher in the current model rather than a self-regulating body.

If it continues Atalanta would catch up. Maybe in 10 years but they would catch up. Because gap between the two has decreased drastically when it comes to wag bill, those are huge changes to see 120mln vs 11 turn into 80 vs 40.

With Super League they'd catch shit because Super League is apparently allowed only for certain clubs and those, who are there undeservedly, can't even get out of it.

 

[.zero]

This is all going to one thing - SuperLeague will also be in place of domestic leagues.

super domestic league?

 

[kappa96]

 

[Akshen]

super domestic league?

Basically the NBA or Euro League format. They wont allow them to play in domestic leagues if they dont play in CL matches and this will end up in these 12 clubs quitting both CL and domestic.