Yeah i was guessing that the ending in the book would've been longer, but anyhooz it was a lullaby compared to the slightly more exciting parts of the movie
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That was just stupid... the guy mustn't have a spine, considering he didn't suffer fatal whiplash. The skateboard shield thing and the acrobatic horse-mounting in TTT was stupid enough... but they took the joke too far...
Indeed... with very little explanation regarding where the heck the eagles came from
Eowyn and Faramir get married, and they didn't tell us!? Bastards!
It really wasn't the same seeing all that stuff getting destroyed without Saruman packin it and looking on helplessly...
Actually, that's pretty realistic 
The undead are invincible... Aragorn the stupid bastard should've kept them till the very end, when they were surrounded by the nasty army...
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-The nazgul who had seemed invincible for the entire film suddenly getting battered by some eagles
-The nazgul who had seemed invincible for the entire film suddenly getting battered by some eagles
Eowyn and Faramir get married, and they didn't tell us!? Bastards!
It really wasn't the same seeing all that stuff getting destroyed without Saruman packin it and looking on helplessly...
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-The ghost army just runing through everything and destroying about 70,000 orcs in approximately 6 minutes
-The ghost army just runing through everything and destroying about 70,000 orcs in approximately 6 minutes
The undead are invincible... Aragorn the stupid bastard should've kept them till the very end, when they were surrounded by the nasty army...
Didn't happen in the book...looked great though
Actually, she did...but Theoden thinks he did it, and doesn't realise that Eowyn is there , never mind that she actually killed the Captain of the Nazgul
It doesn't even show how they meet, or how they fall in love:down:
Silly mistake...made Christopher Lee really mad:fero:
The ghost army don't even take part in this battle in the book
Eowyn killing the witch king 
does this happen in the book I'm sure it doesn't..I need to read them again!
does this happen in the book I'm sure it doesn't..I need to read them again!
Actually, she did...but Theoden thinks he did it, and doesn't realise that Eowyn is there , never mind that she actually killed the Captain of the Nazgul
It doesn't even show how they meet, or how they fall in love:down:
Silly mistake...made Christopher Lee really mad:fero:
-The ghost army just runing through everything and destroying about 70,000 orcs in approximately 6 minutes )
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I love the Book so much that I found myself lost all energy to say anything about the ROTK after I saw it. :broken:
Later, I found out it seems everyone loves this movie. I told to myself : "well... Ok... maybe that's not too bad.. I should try to accept it." *Sigh~~~~~*:down:
But I can't defintly accept this!
It made me very very mad.:fero:
OH! She, with the orc arrows~~please shoot me! 
Later, I found out it seems everyone loves this movie.
I told to myself : "well... Ok... maybe that's not too bad.. I should try to accept it." *Sigh~~~~~*:down:But I can't defintly accept this!
It made me very very mad.:fero:
Riddles of the Rings resolved
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1267&storyid=703823
January 1, 2004
.......
Q: Why does Frodo banish Sam in the movie?
A: Sure, it doesn't happen in the book but screenwriter Philippa Boyens says the book wasn't spectacular enough on this point.
"The reason Frodo turns Sam away is what would happen to that story if he didn't do something?" she asks. "You would have a very long climb up the stairs and then you would have Sam getting lost in the tunnel, which happens in the book, which is not dramatic. ":dazed:
.....says producer Barrie Osborne.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1267&storyid=703823
January 1, 2004
.......
Q: Why does Frodo banish Sam in the movie?
A: Sure, it doesn't happen in the book but screenwriter Philippa Boyens says the book wasn't spectacular enough on this point.
"The reason Frodo turns Sam away is what would happen to that story if he didn't do something?" she asks. "You would have a very long climb up the stairs and then you would have Sam getting lost in the tunnel, which happens in the book, which is not dramatic. ":dazed:
.....says producer Barrie Osborne.
Well in the book you don't actually see them fight once they come the fight basically ends the men win.
But the army of the undead was very strong, i remember a quote i read, that said something like only their presence made their enemies frightened and they couldn't fight.
Violette i think that point with Sam the movie made it better than the film. Since indeed it was far more dramatic for Frodo to sent Sam away and then Sam come back and rescue him.
Alright to us that read the book we don't like it being changed but it is inevitable.
Eowyn did kill the witch-king, and Theoden did see her, he recognised her in the book
"Eowyn, Eowyn! he cried at last, Eowyn how come you here? What madness or devirly is this? Death death death take us all."
he didn't know she killed the witch king though. Marriage of Eomer and Eowyn, Saruman simply not enough time. The film was 3.20 long. A lot of people though it was too long. Imagine if those things were in too... Saruman will be in the extended edition dvd btw i don't know about the marriage, don't think so really, not that important to be in the film.
Legolas killing the oliphaunt, wasn't anything in the book
The eagles coming suddenly, it's the same in the book. Did they destroy the nazgul in the movie, i think they didn't maybe one or two. The nazgul (or most of them) fled to mount doom once they felt the ring since Frodo wore it, both in the movie and the book if i'm not mistaken.
Anywa the point i'm making is that it is impossible, more than impossible really if there is a word to do the movie like the book. No way not even close. The amount of facts in the book is tremendous unbelievable really.
If you want to learn about it read the book.
Jackson made a movie, the movie needs action drama tragedy agony not blah blah. Otherwise even the fans of the tolkien would get bored of it.
That's it...
But the army of the undead was very strong, i remember a quote i read, that said something like only their presence made their enemies frightened and they couldn't fight.
Violette i think that point with Sam the movie made it better than the film. Since indeed it was far more dramatic for Frodo to sent Sam away and then Sam come back and rescue him.
Alright to us that read the book we don't like it being changed but it is inevitable.
Eowyn did kill the witch-king, and Theoden did see her, he recognised her in the book
"Eowyn, Eowyn! he cried at last, Eowyn how come you here? What madness or devirly is this? Death death death take us all."
he didn't know she killed the witch king though. Marriage of Eomer and Eowyn, Saruman simply not enough time. The film was 3.20 long. A lot of people though it was too long. Imagine if those things were in too... Saruman will be in the extended edition dvd btw i don't know about the marriage, don't think so really, not that important to be in the film.
Legolas killing the oliphaunt, wasn't anything in the book
The eagles coming suddenly, it's the same in the book. Did they destroy the nazgul in the movie, i think they didn't maybe one or two. The nazgul (or most of them) fled to mount doom once they felt the ring since Frodo wore it, both in the movie and the book if i'm not mistaken.
Anywa the point i'm making is that it is impossible, more than impossible really if there is a word to do the movie like the book. No way not even close. The amount of facts in the book is tremendous unbelievable really.
If you want to learn about it read the book.
Jackson made a movie, the movie needs action drama tragedy agony not blah blah. Otherwise even the fans of the tolkien would get bored of it.
That's it...
They don't come to fight before Minas Tirith...doesn't Aragon release them after they defeat the Corsairs in the south? It's only men who come on the ships with Aragon...no ghosts Could be wrong here but I can't remember the ghosts fighting here
Yup, I think your right here...it's Eomer who doesn't see her now that I think of it.:thumb:
Aren't they brother and sister?...do you mean Faramir?
Just as in "The Hobbit" at the Battle of the Five Armies...even same words if I remember correctly
Can't agree with you here I'm afraid. Where in the book is the story poor enough to be classed as blah, blah, blah? And you think there is no action, drama, tragedy, agony in the book?
Wouldn't think I would get bored if they kept it as the book either, but we won't know that since it didn't happen...so lets call it even on that point mate
In the first 90 minutes of the movie TROTK there is very little JRRT dialogue, it was straight out of Hollywood, or should I say Wellington...now that was blah, blah, blah:dontcare:
Could be wrong here but I can't remember the ghosts fighting hereYup, I think your right here...it's Eomer who doesn't see her now that I think of it.:thumb:
Aren't they brother and sister?...do you mean Faramir?
Just as in "The Hobbit" at the Battle of the Five Armies...even same words if I remember correctly
Can't agree with you here I'm afraid. Where in the book is the story poor enough to be classed as blah, blah, blah? And you think there is no action, drama, tragedy, agony in the book?
Wouldn't think I would get bored if they kept it as the book either, but we won't know that since it didn't happen...so lets call it even on that point mate
In the first 90 minutes of the movie TROTK there is very little JRRT dialogue, it was straight out of Hollywood, or should I say Wellington...now that was blah, blah, blah:dontcare:
Sorry i meant Faramir there not Eomer.
About the blah blah point don't get me wrong, i love the books, they are my favourite, i meant the dialogue basically, too much for a film.
Perhaps you are right about the undead not fighting at the pellenor fields i'll have to re-read the whole chapter, i'm not sure either.
Oh and i'm glad to see here a fan of Tolkien as passionate or even more than i am and discusing with you. :cheesy:
P.S. Tottally irrelevant but possibly interesting fact.
The girl that plays Sam's daughter in the film and he hugs her at the end, is really her daughter.
Oh and Mortensen's and Jackson's kids also took some part in the film
About the blah blah point don't get me wrong, i love the books, they are my favourite, i meant the dialogue basically, too much for a film.
Perhaps you are right about the undead not fighting at the pellenor fields i'll have to re-read the whole chapter, i'm not sure either.
Oh and i'm glad to see here a fan of Tolkien as passionate or even more than i am and discusing with you.
:cheesy:P.S. Tottally irrelevant but possibly interesting fact.
The girl that plays Sam's daughter in the film and he hugs her at the end, is really her daughter.
Oh and Mortensen's and Jackson's kids also took some part in the film
For dramatic sakes...
What about brotherhood, trust, and royalty?:sob:
LOTR is a timeless masterpiece.
If you don't like it...... No, if you don't get it,
don't film it! Make a new one.
Show some respect to a great artist. Don't change his works. no matter you make it better or worse.
No wonder Tolkien hate Disney so much.
Tolkien would be spinning in his grave now.:down:
What about brotherhood, trust, and royalty?:sob:
LOTR is a timeless masterpiece.
If you don't like it...... No, if you don't get it,
don't film it! Make a new one.
Show some respect to a great artist. Don't change his works. no matter you make it better or worse.
No wonder Tolkien hate Disney so much.
Tolkien would be spinning in his grave now.:down:
It's Cameo Time
http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1071952929.html
Cameos, cameos everywhere ... Here's just a few of the cameos from Return of the King - there's probably lots more as well.
Sean Astin's daughter plays Elanor, daughter of Sam and Rosie.
Sarah McLeod's daughter plays Frodo, son of Sam and rosie.
Peter Jackson's children have cameos as Gondorian children.
Peter Jackson is the captain of the Corsairs of Umbar. He also had a longer 'cameo' of around two minutes where he battles a major character - reportedly Legolas - but decided to cut it from the theatrical release. He spoke about this at the world premiere press conference in Wellington.
TORn Staffer Quickbeam has a few seconds of fame as a Gondorian soldier.
Previsualisation supervisor Christian Rivers as the Gondorian soldier in charge of the beacon.
Senior prosthetics supervisor Gino Acevedo is a Corsair of Umbar.
Richard Taylor is a Corsair of Umbar.
Bret McKenzie makes a reappearance as Figwit (one of Arwen's escorts) and even gets to speak some lines!
John Howe appears as a Gondorian soldier.
Royn Tolkien plays a Gondorian ranger preparing the defences of the ruined city of Osgiliath, braced for an assault by the evil lord Sauron's armies of orcs. Read more on BBC Online
http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1071952929.html
Cameos, cameos everywhere ... Here's just a few of the cameos from Return of the King - there's probably lots more as well.
Sean Astin's daughter plays Elanor, daughter of Sam and Rosie.
Sarah McLeod's daughter plays Frodo, son of Sam and rosie.
Peter Jackson's children have cameos as Gondorian children.
Peter Jackson is the captain of the Corsairs of Umbar. He also had a longer 'cameo' of around two minutes where he battles a major character - reportedly Legolas - but decided to cut it from the theatrical release. He spoke about this at the world premiere press conference in Wellington.
TORn Staffer Quickbeam has a few seconds of fame as a Gondorian soldier.
Previsualisation supervisor Christian Rivers as the Gondorian soldier in charge of the beacon.
Senior prosthetics supervisor Gino Acevedo is a Corsair of Umbar.
Richard Taylor is a Corsair of Umbar.
Bret McKenzie makes a reappearance as Figwit (one of Arwen's escorts) and even gets to speak some lines!
John Howe appears as a Gondorian soldier.
Royn Tolkien plays a Gondorian ranger preparing the defences of the ruined city of Osgiliath, braced for an assault by the evil lord Sauron's armies of orcs. Read more on BBC Online
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Well many ppl here came to a conclusion:
those who have read the book is fairly disappointed with ROTK, those who haven't thought it was a blast
Well many ppl here came to a conclusion:
those who have read the book is fairly disappointed with ROTK, those who haven't thought it was a blast
Thats is disgusting!!
++ [ originally posted by sallyinzaghi ] ++
Well many ppl here came to a conclusion:
those who have read the book is fairly disappointed with ROTK, those who haven't thought it was a blast
Well many ppl here came to a conclusion:
those who have read the book is fairly disappointed with ROTK, those who haven't thought it was a blast
But i will defend the film to the end, i found that the changes he did, were very good, and contributed to the film becoming better.
E.g. Ok he put Arwen saving Frodo, where's the problem with that? I found that Arwen was too insignificant in the book. Ok let's say he put the guy that really saved frodo, it would just mean an extra character who meant nothing in the film, by placing Arwen you get closer to her character IMO
Well said FM..if your happy then Jacksons done his job and the entrance fee was money well spent:thumb:
Good point this..
Any real experts on Middle Earth here? I'd like to ask a question about Glorfindel....are there two Glorfindels in the history of ME? One saves Frodo, but the Silmarilion says Glorfindel died much earlier than this fighting a Balrog?
Violette...you know your stuff. Can you help here please?
Good point this..
Any real experts on Middle Earth here? I'd like to ask a question about Glorfindel....are there two Glorfindels in the history of ME? One saves Frodo, but the Silmarilion says Glorfindel died much earlier than this fighting a Balrog?
Violette...you know your stuff. Can you help here please?
