The one and only Capello thread (7 Viewers)

[- vOnAm -]

You do not remember when by half way through the season that everyone in the media were saying that out attack of trez- divaio and nedved were the best since sivori and charles , when they were scoring golas for fun, we were leading then until it all got pear shaped. I do not remember Roma leading the table by 6 points at all, all i do remember Milan going on a run of consecutive games with win after win after win. Milan won the league with 82 points, Roma came second with 71 and we came third with 69. Now Sateeh keeps on saying that we had a very horrible season but we were still 2 points behind Capello's Roma. We had horrendous injury problems wih Dp playing just 22 games and Trez 25. We scored 67 goals, 2 more than Milan unfortunately we conceded 47 with the likes of Leggro, Iuliano, Ferrara and Montero in defence , it aint surprising.

Yes that year we had a great start, and then crumbled to the mighty rivals.
We were horribly because we were just a mediocre team, unable to compete with Inter, Roma and Milan in the head to head games. We were still consistantly doing well with the small teams. But when you watch those head to head games, you will understand why Sateeh called our team that season, horrible.

 

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[denco]

denco, kinda contradictive:
sayin Capello is nothing without his stars and can win only with them,
and then saying Mourinho's abundance of star players are irrelevant to judgement of his coaching abilities and that Mourinho is miles better than Capello....
the arguments look biased and emotional to me...
and yes saying Milan were 90mins away from a trebble is pushin it...

How bout thinking of it this way, Chelsea are shitloads ahead in the league becuase EPL teams are somewhat off-form. MU have been a disappointment the last two seasons, so have Arsenal and Liverpool. Chelsea lack challangers and rightfully are running away with it. Milan, Inter and Roma are stronger domestic rivals than those I mentioned before.
By your logic of Mourinho's greatness, shouldn't Chelsea been able to beet Liverpool two years ago? With more stars and a few players he took with him from Porto not to mention unlimited money surely Mourinho should have won the CL by now?

Capello, as shitty of a tactician as he is, is going to win us another scudetto and contrary to what you say, this Juventus was actually high flyin'.
You say that in Lippi's last year, our Juventus was really good but Milan just had a wonderful run which prevented us from challenging? And this year its because Milan who made flukes is why we are still runnin.

I can't see how that is remotely true, everybody's been talkin about how superb Juventus have been playin this season(points wise) and that Milan and Inter are unlucky to have a Juve side so stunning, that they aren't able to compete. It is only the absolute deterioration of our side that we are brought down to earth to compete with Milan. Who's fault? I agree, most is squarely on Don Fabio...(if yar gonna play brute football atleast rotate mate).

Now all I wanna add is that although I agree that Cap is doin poorly and is less and less looking like a coach who can bring us CL glory, I hope it can be shown more objectively.

Contradicting? You cannot be serious surely. I said saying Mourinho has limited resources and having the best squad is irrelevant to the issue because Mourinho does not rely on super strikers to bail him out of trouble, he uses tactical nous when things are not going his way but Capello just folds his arms, waits untoil the likes of Dp or Trez bails him out and does not change anything tactically , he just changes personnel and plkays the same 4-4-2 in every match, whether its working or not. No the premiership was not competitive this season but neither was serieA, its cos of Capello's stupidity thats why there are just 3 points between first and second this season. His nonsense in keep on playing Zlatan thats costing us dear . We ought to have wrapped it up by now a long time ago. Lippi in his second season back wrapped up the league 3 games to go and he had a weaker squad. How you can say Roma and Inter are as consistent as Manchester united and Liverpool this season is beyond me. Who knocked out Roma from uefa, thats right , Middlesboro and where did they finish in premiership? Who knocked out Juve from Cl? I dont need to remind you and the team needed food poisoning to come 4th in the so called weak premiership.
Are you saying if Milan did not screw up by incerdibly losing 4-0 at Depor, they would not have beaten both Porto and Monaco?
If Mourinho had our squad he would win the league and would have done that a while ago, with better team spirit as Mourinho knows how to make the likes of Terry and lampard feel sweet, and he would have done it with Dp and not make a farce of the captaincy, dropping Thuram for no reason whilst making him captain for no reason in the first place.
And we would sure as hell would have beaten Arsenal with him in charge or at least given a better account of ourselves

 

[Jem83]

Capello is in charge at Juventus and Mourinho is in charge at Chelsea.

This is the reality we have got to deal with.

Capello's done well and he's managed to raise the performance of the team during these last 4 games and I'm thankful for that.

I think he'll deliver us the 29th Scudetto 6 days from now.

Like I've said before, though:

if THERE ARE BETTER OPTIONS OUT THERE, options WE COULD ACQUIRE, then sure - replace the man - for the good of the club.

But suggesting Spalletti and Prandelli and Deschamps could all do a better job is nonsense to me.

and Mourinho? Going nowhere atm.

 

[- vOnAm -]

Contradicting? You cannot be serious surely. I said saying Mourinho has limited resources and having the best squad is irrelevant to the issue because Mourinho does not rely on super strikers to bail him out of trouble, he uses tactical nous when things are not going his way but Capello just folds his arms, waits untoil the likes of Dp or Trez bails him out and does not change anything tactically , he just changes personnel and plkays the same 4-4-2 in every match, whether its working or not.

I was sure I read how you compared Capello and Mourinho who both have superstar players and yet you judge differently between the two.
But reading your reason above, i must have misread it. I do concur that Mourinho is the better tactician by a great deal so nothing more to be said there.

No the premiership was not competitive this season but neither was serieA, its cos of Capello's stupidity thats why there are just 3 points between first and second this season. His nonsense in keep on playing Zlatan thats costing us dear . We ought to have wrapped it up by now a long time ago. Lippi in his second season back wrapped up the league 3 games to go and he had a weaker squad. How you can say Roma and Inter are as consistent as Manchester united and Liverpool this season is beyond me. Who knocked out Roma from uefa, thats right , Middlesboro and where did they finish in premiership? Who knocked out Juve from Cl? I dont need to remind you and the team needed food poisoning to come 4th in the so called weak premiership.

1. Serie A this season is more competitive than EPL, look at the points of both leagues.
2. We have a great record this year, and had we not have such a great record in the first half, we would have been neck to neck with Milan anyways.
3. Yes, Milan,Inter, Roma and Fiorentina are a bigger threat than MU, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham. You can't directly compare a team's performance in CL and Domestically, or else we would not have won all the scudettos we have won in the last decade, anyways most of those teams abondon league matches to concentrate on Europe. MU hasn't been consistant this season, only towards the end, and on the contrary, Inter was far more consistant this season along with Milan, but our first half heaven of a record made them look mediocre.

Are you saying if Milan did not screw up by incerdibly losing 4-0 at Depor, they would not have beaten both Porto and Monaco?

Are you saying that if Milan were 3-0 up by halftime that they would not have lost the game?

My doubt is more sensible than your optimism.
History has proven that nothing is certain.

If Mourinho had our squad he would win the league and would have done that a while ago, with better team spirit as Mourinho knows how to make the likes of Terry and lampard feel sweet, and he would have done it with Dp and not make a farce of the captaincy, dropping Thuram for no reason whilst making him captain for no reason in the first place.
And we would sure as hell would have beaten Arsenal with him in charge or at least given a better account of ourselves

Now I thought you said Mourinho had a better squad than US, why all of a sudden go back on that by saying IF HE had OUR squad?

Boo hoo that Mourinho has a relatively better squad but who cares

No our squad is not as good as Chelsea's and Barcelona and those 2 have dominated their respective leagues these past 2 seasons.

Btw, I think putting Kovac in the first 11 was a good move, as Thuram was begining to lose his form considerably. But Surely, Chelsea have the better players, and surely Capello could win the EPL with such a squad. Winning the CL however is a different matter.

 

[denco]

I was sure I read how you compared Capello and Mourinho who both have superstar players and yet you judge differently between the two.
But reading your reason above, i must have misread it. I do concur that Mourinho is the better tactician by a great deal so nothing more to be said there.



1. Serie A this season is more competitive than EPL, look at the points of both leagues.
2. We have a great record this year, and had we not have such a great record in the first half, we would have been neck to neck with Milan anyways.
3. Yes, Milan,Inter, Roma and Fiorentina are a bigger threat than MU, Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham. You can't directly compare a team's performance in CL and Domestically, or else we would not have won all the scudettos we have won in the last decade, anyways most of those teams abondon league matches to concentrate on Europe. MU hasn't been consistant this season, only towards the end, and on the contrary, Inter was far more consistant this season along with Milan, but our first half heaven of a record made them look mediocre.



Are you saying that if Milan were 3-0 up by halftime that they would not have lost the game?

My doubt is more sensible than your optimism.
History has proven that nothing is certain.



Now I thought you said Mourinho had a better squad than US, why all of a sudden go back on that by saying IF HE had OUR squad?





Btw, I think putting Kovac in the first 11 was a good move, as Thuram was begining to lose his form considerably. But Surely, Chelsea have the better players, and surely Capello could win the EPL with such a squad. Winning the CL however is a different matter.

First off. Id be very impressed if Capello can indeed win the epl with his very conservative tactics as managers in England have puit him in his place way too many times
what do you mean Inter and Milan have been consistent and man united and Liverpool have not? man united finished with 83 points this season, the same number they did when they last won the league but Mourinho's chelsea have raised the bar
I was saying Mourinho , if he had our squad will still win serieA with our squad but earlier , is that too much to comprehend? If he was our manager he would have won serieA and with Moggi's sheninigans, he would have won it by March.
I do not agree with your view of SerieA being more competitive this year as the Epl is always more competitive and tougher but not as good technically as serieA. For me serieA this year has been poor as way too many mediocre teams are there compared to other seasons. How many times have we just coasted in seriea this season and how can a team like ours with all our anaemic displays only have lost once this season? Please if you are gonna argue well in future, do not use Inter as a point of reference as they are an embarassment.
Putting Kovac before Thuram you say has been a good thing because Thuram has been losing form recently? i got news for ya, Thuram has been hopeless for a long time and in fact, he has been playing better of late but thats when CAPELLO CHANGES things anyways, whenever its too late or whenever its unnecessary like taking off Nedved when he gave his best display in a very long time. And why is Zlatan still starting if thats the case?

 

[- vOnAm -]

First off. Id be very impressed if Capello can indeed win the epl with his very conservative tactics as managers in England have puit him in his place way too many times
what do you mean Inter and Milan have been consistent and man united and Liverpool have not? man united finished with 83 points this season, the same number they did when they last won the league but Mourinho's chelsea have raised the bar
I was saying Mourinho , if he had our squad will still win serieA with our squad but earlier , is that too much to comprehend? If he was our manager he would have won serieA and with Moggi's sheninigans, he would have won it by March.
I do not agree with your view of SerieA being more competitive this year as the Epl is always more competitive and tougher but not as good technically as serieA. For me serieA this year has been poor as way too many mediocre teams are there compared to other seasons. How many times have we just coasted in seriea this season and how can a team like ours with all our anaemic displays only have lost once this season? Please if you are gonna argue well in future, do not use Inter as a point of reference as they are an embarassment.
Putting Kovac before Thuram you say has been a good thing because Thuram has been losing form recently? i got news for ya, Thuram has been hopeless for a long time and in fact, he has been playing better of late but thats when CAPELLO CHANGES things anyways, whenever its too late or whenever its unnecessary like taking off Nedved when he gave his best display in a very long time. And why is Zlatan still starting if thats the case?

Well perhaps it would be easier saying if we had Mourinho as our manager instead of if Mourinho had our team. I kinda understood it like if Chelsea had our players.

Inter, yes ofcourse they are a bad sample to take especially when it comes to competing but you gotta admit they're doin better this year, and their first half wasn't bad.

What I meant bieng more competitive here is that there are more teams that can ACTUALLY challange the serie A title. The gap between the giants of Italy and the rest of the league is farther than that of EPL. But again I meant that Juventus here had more challengers, there isn't really a Milan at the momment in the EPL. And if you talk about Inter bieng inconsistant this year well the same goes for Arsenal and Liverpool. Man U had a bad start to the season and so did Arsenal, who has only recently, (since february) began to produce results, so they are finishing strong while Inter and US are finishing weak. But if you judge the whole season you will see that the scudetto has more challangers racing for it. If you talk about Milan's fluke well then Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd had Much much more of it.

And if you still think our record is good for 1st place ONLY because Milan had some fluke games well then can you imagine IF(since your using lots of IFs) we didn't deteriorate, if we had infact won many of our few league games. we might have been able to reach that 100points mark which is hardly a mark of a lucky team. We broke some records this season, yes it was last year but when you analyse a season, then remember the Whole season, not just the current form or the second half.

As I said before, Im not arguing Capello's tactical stupidity, that was never my intention as am not at all satisfied and do think that in-game tactics are one of his weaknesses, but I disagree if you discribe the current Juve under Capello as 'very fortunate' and perform mediocre.

If you r comparing the footballing style of Lippi's last season and our current one then you can say that we were playing better football back then (a more open one), but results wise, domestically, I think this team isn't at all poor or just lucky. We were having a very very bad form, exactly the opposite of our start.

 

[denco]

Well perhaps it would be easier saying if we had Mourinho as our manager instead of if Mourinho had our team. I kinda understood it like if Chelsea had our players.

Inter, yes ofcourse they are a bad sample to take especially when it comes to competing but you gotta admit they're doin better this year, and their first half wasn't bad.

What I meant bieng more competitive here is that there are more teams that can ACTUALLY challange the serie A title. The gap between the giants of Italy and the rest of the league is farther than that of EPL. But again I meant that Juventus here had more challengers, there isn't really a Milan at the momment in the EPL. And if you talk about Inter bieng inconsistant this year well the same goes for Arsenal and Liverpool. Man U had a bad start to the season and so did Arsenal, who has only recently, (since february) began to produce results, so they are finishing strong while Inter and US are finishing weak. But if you judge the whole season you will see that the scudetto has more challangers racing for it. If you talk about Milan's fluke well then Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd had Much much more of it.

And if you still think our record is good for 1st place ONLY because Milan had some fluke games well then can you imagine IF(since your using lots of IFs) we didn't deteriorate, if we had infact won many of our few league games. we might have been able to reach that 100points mark which is hardly a mark of a lucky team. We broke some records this season, yes it was last year but when you analyse a season, then remember the Whole season, not just the current form or the second half.

As I said before, Im not arguing Capello's tactical stupidity, that was never my intention as am not at all satisfied and do think that in-game tactics are one of his weaknesses, but I disagree if you discribe the current Juve under Capello as 'very fortunate' and perform mediocre.

If you r comparing the footballing style of Lippi's last season and our current one then you can say that we were playing better football back then (a more open one), but results wise, domestically, I think this team isn't at all poor or just lucky. We were having a very very bad form, exactly the opposite of our start.

I am not having a go at this team , i am talking about the guy at the helm and thats capello. Whataver reasons for a team's dip in form, its the manager to blame. Now if the team has been performing brilliantly at the start of the season, thats what the team is capable of and its fully developing its potential. Now any slips in form is up to the manager, its what he is paid for, to get the team to play to its full potential, thats all. Its up to him to know who is in form mentally of physically, its up to him to know when to rest players and when not to, its up to him to play players in positions they are comfortable in and where best they husrt opposition. How is it that ateam can perfom so well at the beginning and limp towards the end and the manager cannot do anything to arrest this alarming loss of form? Do you honestly feel a team like Juventus should be making their supporters nervous about playing Palermo at home, Siena and reginna away?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the team in terms of personnel, its the manager who is a fook up. He is the one that has allowed people liek Nedved and camoranesi collect red cards and suspensions like never before.
I do not know what you mean by saying Milan's fluke, as i never mentioned fluke and never implied it. Look lets be honest noone was at the races at both Epl and SerieA, Capello's ineptitude just made it seem interesting, it never was, i mean 14 points ahead of Milan? come on

 

[- vOnAm -]

I was merely saying that if you're gonna hate him so much for our DIP in form, then he atleast has to be credited for our strong record breaking start too. Or do you think that is purely our player's merit?

And ofcourse I understand how stupid it is not to rotate when it was obvious for months that our players ran out of gas. And his inability to apply different brand of tactics when faced with different situations is baffling.

I think throughout our discussion we pretty much agree on Capello's coaching. I just think he deserves STILL abit of credit for getting us on such a good start in the first place, so his terrible managing ability which gives us a dip in form will only nullify that, and makes him only an ok coach but not a great one. IMO. Remember even Chelsea had their difficult stint.

Another point is how you think we are in 1st place because Milan happen to have some slip up games hence i used "fluke". Which I think is not our case. We are doing as well as Chelsea "if not better"(with less losses) in the league and Milan is close on our tail, closer than MU is. The top four of Italy are closer to the top, than the top four in premierleague. (have more points)

Like i said before, it is bad to use Inter as comparision, but whatever you wanna say about them, Inter WAS more consistant than Arsenal in the league this year...11 losses is no sign of consistancy. So my arguments using Inter IMO is very much valid.

 

[sateeh]

I was merely saying that if you're gonna hate him so much for our DIP in form, then he atleast has to be credited for our strong record breaking start too. Or do you think that is purely our player's merit?

And ofcourse I understand how stupid it is not to rotate when it was obvious for months that our players ran out of gas. And his inability to apply different brand of tactics when faced with different situations is baffling.

I think throughout our discussion we pretty much agree on Capello's coaching. I just think he deserves STILL abit of credit for getting us on such a good start in the first place, so his terrible managing ability which gives us a dip in form will only nullify that, and makes him only an ok coach but not a great one. IMO. Remember even Chelsea had their difficult stint.

Another point is how you think we are in 1st place because Milan happen to have some slip up games hence i used "fluke". Which I think is not our case. We are doing as well as Chelsea "if not better"(with less losses) in the league and Milan is close on our tail, closer than MU is. The top four of Italy are closer to the top, than the top four in premierleague. (have more points)

Like i said before, it is bad to use Inter as comparision, but whatever you wanna say about them, Inter WAS more consistant than Arsenal in the league this year...11 losses is no sign of consistancy. So my arguments using Inter IMO is very much valid.

agreed man + rep

i think even in the EPL, if it wasn't for the 0-0 draw between Man U and Sunderland right before the Chelsea game. And even in the Chelsea game, as i was watching it with a friend whos a Man U fan, and when rooney missed that one on one with Lehmann he just said they willl lose and it's not their day. Anyway Man U beat Sunderland then the Chelsea game would hold more significance and i think we wouldnt have seen that big of a difference of points between the two.

 

[denco]

I was merely saying that if you're gonna hate him so much for our DIP in form, then he atleast has to be credited for our strong record breaking start too. Or do you think that is purely our player's merit?

And ofcourse I understand how stupid it is not to rotate when it was obvious for months that our players ran out of gas. And his inability to apply different brand of tactics when faced with different situations is baffling.

I think throughout our discussion we pretty much agree on Capello's coaching. I just think he deserves STILL abit of credit for getting us on such a good start in the first place, so his terrible managing ability which gives us a dip in form will only nullify that, and makes him only an ok coach but not a great one. IMO. Remember even Chelsea had their difficult stint.

Another point is how you think we are in 1st place because Milan happen to have some slip up games hence i used "fluke". Which I think is not our case. We are doing as well as Chelsea "if not better"(with less losses) in the league and Milan is close on our tail, closer than MU is. The top four of Italy are closer to the top, than the top four in premierleague. (have more points)
Like i said before, it is bad to use Inter as comparision, but whatever you wanna say about them, Inter WAS more consistant than Arsenal in the league this year...11 losses is no sign of consistancy. So my arguments using Inter IMO is very much valid.

A coach or manager or whatever does not earn his stripes when the going gets good, its when the going gets bad, thats when you know who is good or who is just fortunate to have players at his disposal. our good start to the season shows how good the team really is, its got very little to do with the manager. What the manager should there fore do is find a way to get back to that particular form and thats when he earns his bacon. Okay tiredness came into play as most are above 30 but whose fault is that? Why is the likes of Cannavaro playing in coppa italia, simply because herefused to use alternatives like Gladstone. The 4-4-2 worked for him in the season and we were getting away with it, even if i kept on saying that yes we were winning but our performances save for a very few matches were not great. but of cos on here, as long as we win, it never mattered how we played, we were the greatest. Now the results are not quite going for us and even if the performances by and large have not altered, you are saying we are on a poor run. In terms of results, yes, in terms of performances, no, cos its been like that most of the season. Its just that in Cl we were not allowed to get away with lame performances and were spanked deservedly against the better sides.
Look man, if i had a Ferrari and i am putting pedal to the metal, it will pretty much be speeding like mad, and thats how good the ferrari is, if for some reason i am overtaken by a beetle then whose fault is that? Its not the ferrari, its the driver, its up to me , the driver to find out what the hell is wrong with my car, fix it soonest and slam that mother to the floor. I should not wait 7 bloody weeks to find out whats wrong with my car

@Sateeh , Now you are bringing semantics into it, if Chelsea had beaten charlton and Everton away which they ought to have and if they had not lost to Fulham in controversial circumstances then the margin would have been greater. You are talking about Rooney's miss, goodness talking about barebones stuff. Do you have any idea how many ifs there are in the world? If I had boobs id have been Denise

 

[Jem83]

"if Chelsea had beaten Everton and Charlton..."

"if we had done this and that.."

"if Capello wouldn't have played 4-4-2"

"we're 1st in the league but I'm still not satisfied"

you think football is so easy don't you?

do me a favor, stop playing Football Manager, it makes you think you know stuff

 

[sateeh]

A coach or manager or whatever does not earn his stripes when the going gets good, its when the going gets bad, thats when you know who is good or who is just fortunate to have players at his disposal. our good start to the season shows how good the team really is, its got very little to do with the manager. What the manager should there fore do is find a way to get back to that particular form and thats when he earns his bacon. Okay tiredness came into play as most are above 30 but whose fault is that? Why is the likes of Cannavaro playing in coppa italia, simply because herefused to use alternatives like Gladstone. The 4-4-2 worked for him in the season and we were getting away with it, even if i kept on saying that yes we were winning but our performances save for a very few matches were not great. but of cos on here, as long as we win, it never mattered how we played, we were the greatest. Now the results are not quite going for us and even if the performances by and large have not altered, you are saying we are on a poor run. In terms of results, yes, in terms of performances, no, cos its been like that most of the season. Its just that in Cl we were not allowed to get away with lame performances and were spanked deservedly against the better sides.
Look man, if i had a Ferrari and i am putting pedal to the metal, it will pretty much be speeding like mad, and thats how good the ferrari is, if for some reason i am overtaken by a beetle then whose fault is that? Its not the ferrari, its the driver, its up to me , the driver to find out what the hell is wrong with my car, fix it soonest and slam that mother to the floor. I should not wait 7 bloody weeks to find out whats wrong with my car

@Sateeh , Now you are bringing semantics into it, if Chelsea had beaten charlton and Everton away which they ought to have and if they had not lost to Fulham in controversial circumstances then the margin would have been greater. You are talking about Rooney's miss, goodness talking about barebones stuff. Do you have any idea how many ifs there are in the world? If I had boobs id have been Denise

a few posts before u said if it wasnt for crazy 90mins of milan against depor they would've got the treble . Am just making a similar statement.
And i wont even touch the denise thing

 

[denco]

"if Chelsea had beaten Everton and Charlton..."

"if we had done this and that.."

"if Capello wouldn't have played 4-4-2"

"we're 1st in the league but I'm still not satisfied"

you think football is so easy don't you?

do me a favor, stop playing Football Manager, it makes you think you know stuff

Please shut up, i made the mistake of thinking you know anything about football, you obviously dont, ignore my posts from now on as you are way too irritating

 

[Jem83]

Your reaction only informs me that I was spot on

Struck a nerve now, didn't I?

 

[denco]

a few posts before u said if it wasnt for crazy 90mins of milan against depor they would've got the treble . Am just making a similar statement.
And i wont even touch the denise thing

Jesus Christ, i was making a point of how brilliant Milan were that season and not knit picking for crying out loud but you are knit picking , trying to make out that man united were close to Chelsea this season which they were not. If Milan were as good and as consistent as they were that season, this season, they would have won the league this season. You are talking about 0-0 against Sunderland like really it would have made a difference to Chelsea winning the league. man united got trounced 3-0 did they not or was i looking at another game? Milan lost only 1 game against Udinese at home and from there went on an absolutely crazy winning streak, i am not talking drawing here and there. In 3 competitions they lost only against Depor but Man united were knocked out by Liverpool, were last in their group in cl and you make out that we are talking about the same things

 

[denco]

Your reaction only informs me that I was spot on

Struck a nerve now, didn't I?

It did not strike a nerve, i just realised when you have nothing to put forward in case of arguments you come out with drivel, you have done that on numerous occasions, you just throw your toys out of your pram and start suckling on teat. I have never in my life played CM, I have never even seen it. This is years of football watching talking, not monkey see monkey do

 

[Jem83]

It did not strike a nerve, i just realised when you have nothing to put forward in case of arguments you come out with drivel, you have done that on numerous occasions, you just throw your toys out of your pram and start suckling on teat. I have never in my life played CM, I have never even seen it. This is years of football watching talking, not monkey see monkey do

well you don't impress me one bit

you see football as an absolute science but pay very little attention to the human relations in the game, which is the most difficult part

All the people who think they would do a better job than Moggi would have to be a better negotiator than Moggi

All the people who think they would do a better job than Capello would have to be better at commanding respect from players and members of the staff

These are the things I deem 'not easy'

Some people only want to talk about tactics

Laughable

 

[denco]

well you don't impress me one bit

you see football as an absolute science but pay very little attention to the human relations in the game, which is the most difficult part

All the people who think they would do a better job than Moggi would have to be a better negotiator than Moggi

All the people who think they would do a better job than Capello would have to be better at commanding respect from players and members of the staff

These are the things I deem 'not easy'

Some people only want to talk about tactics

Laughable

Gee i am heartbroken, here i was thinking all those years ago, when i joined this forum, i was here to impress some nonentity from Norway. Since when is a critic better than what he is crticisizing? Football as an absolute science? a minute ago, i saw it as a game on Cm, which is it? If only you had an any idea how to argue your points, i might not agree but i would respect, instead you come out with absolute tripe. Who says they would do a better job than Capello on here? Name them for me please

 

[Jem83]

Gee i am heartbroken, here i was thinking all those years ago, when i joined this forum, i was here to impress some nonentity from Norway. Since when is a critic better than what he is crticisizing? Football as an absolute science? a minute ago, i saw it as a game on Cm, which is it? If only you had an any idea how to argue your points, i might not agree but i would respect, instead you come out with absolute tripe. Who says they would do a better job than Capello on here? Name them for me please

lay your feelings aside, woman, and start debating with me

naming all those people would take me all day and would probably get me banned as well, so I won't do that, but I suspect that you're one of them

you always come on here trying to 'enlighten us' with what Capello should do, as if you actually thought you could do a better job yourself.

did you actually argue that I thought football is a game on CM just now?

you should pay more attention to what I'm actually saying

 

[denco]

Woman? Are you being chilvarous? Why would they ban you for speaking the truth and what exactly? No , you should pay more attention to your own posts, first you said i think football is about playing on CM and then you said i think football is science so again i ask which is it? I never said i could manage Juve better than Capello, i have said i know a lot of managers that will do better than he has done, big difference.
Now all garbage aside since you are pro Capello, tell me how he has done such a wonderful job without the usual spiel of he has won 1 scudetto and he is on his way to winning another as that won't wash
Show us peons ,who doubt the great one, how you know ur stuff, defend Capello amd be as sure as hell to impress the hell out of me since thats what you are here for