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I woke up this morning and thought to myself I might as well finish the project I was working on before I got hired, why not. I remember why I shied away from it now, having to make design decisions is not something I like doing at all 
Better than not learning at all, keep at it.
Better than not learning at all, keep at it.
True, but depending on which course you take, it may come with a community. One of the ones I went through on Udemy has an accompanying active private Facebook group and Discord chat where all the "students" can discuss things related to the course, industry, things they've built, coding in general, etc. I don't know if Udemy is still not allowed in Iran but I'm sure there are still similar public groups out there on social media sites.
I'm so sorry it took me a while to get back to you bro, its holiday season here so its been crazy with family. I'm doing alright, still no solid job offer ( its a bit worrying since most of the group got hired) but I'm taking this off time to further learn, I am following several courses at the moment and building along learning new things in react that I did not know about so all in all good I guess. how about you? i hope all is going smoothly for you.
how about you? i hope all is going smoothly for you.
I'm so sorry it took me a while to get back to you bro, its holiday season here so its been crazy with family. I'm doing alright, still no solid job offer ( its a bit worrying since most of the group got hired) but I'm taking this off time to further learn, I am following several courses at the moment and building along learning new things in react that I did not know about so all in all good I guess. how about you? i hope all is going smoothly for you.
how about you? i hope all is going smoothly for you.
Are the people who were hired after the Boot Camp, live near your area (country or city) or they were from other countries?
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Courses can be easily downloaded for free (illegally). but some courses are too much of theory without proper explanation. The methods they show is not applicable in real world.
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ok, the answer to your first question is, the boot camp cost me 250,000 Russian rubles which is $3000. from my understanding it's cheaper than a similar BootCamp in the united states. so you pay 3k for a 3 month BootCamp ( you can fail each phase just once).
as for the fellow students, they were 98% Russian or native Russian speakers. there were Russians who actually live in the united states but flew in specifically for the BootCamp. my class was 11 students including my self all Russians, all from Moscow and all got hired except me and another guy.
I will be very honest with regard to my experience with this whole process. Russian as I mentioned is a language I understand but not as a native, its my third language so if I could go back and redo this Bootcamp I would have prepared first using travesty udemy courses and then show up. the reason as to why I didn't get hired yet is due to the following:
1- there are some spaces in my understanding of javascript and react to a lesser extent. this leads me to panic when I don't know how to answer.
2- my biggest issue is I can't just sit and type code, I need to look at already written code, however, to actually sit and write it without looking is my Achilles heel and I'm working on fixing this issue. I think it's due to the inability to think like a programmer. I'm now doing travesty react course and building along and I've acquired a lot of knowledge with regards to react.
3- I did have several phone interviews, but unlike my colleagues, I never get called up for tech interviews instead I get a test task 99% of the time that is either massive or simply too hard for someone who just finished a boot camp.
it was drilled in our heads during this boot camp that we should accept a minimum of 120k rubles per month which is around 2k USD, and that's a lot of money and with that comes high expectations so my strategy is a bit off from what is being drilled in our heads I'm applying to vacancies that want new developers ( junior) even if they pay 80k I am willing to go down that road and work my way up. ( nearly everyone who graduated gets 110k minimum the highest is 160k ). the idea being, less pressure and more chance to be mentored. i think the biggest mistake I ever did was staying too long in Codecademy ( this being handheld was bad) it's not a bad resource as an introduction but I wish I went down the udemy way first then BootCamp.
the bottom line is there are many aha moments for me now, that I'm studying react again in English, a language I'm comfortable in compared to Russian. non the less I'm grateful and proud of my accomplishment of going through and graduating from this bootcamp.
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ok, the answer to your first question is, the boot camp cost me 250,000 Russian rubles which is $3000. from my understanding it's cheaper than a similar BootCamp in the united states. so you pay 3k for a 3 month BootCamp ( you can fail each phase just once).
as for the fellow students, they were 98% Russian or native Russian speakers. there were Russians who actually live in the united states but flew in specifically for the BootCamp. my class was 11 students including my self all Russians, all from Moscow and all got hired except me and another guy.
I will be very honest with regard to my experience with this whole process. Russian as I mentioned is a language I understand but not as a native, its my third language so if I could go back and redo this Bootcamp I would have prepared first using travesty udemy courses and then show up. the reason as to why I didn't get hired yet is due to the following:
1- there are some spaces in my understanding of javascript and react to a lesser extent. this leads me to panic when I don't know how to answer.
2- my biggest issue is I can't just sit and type code, I need to look at already written code, however, to actually sit and write it without looking is my Achilles heel and I'm working on fixing this issue. I think it's due to the inability to think like a programmer. I'm now doing travesty react course and building along and I've acquired a lot of knowledge with regards to react.
3- I did have several phone interviews, but unlike my colleagues, I never get called up for tech interviews instead I get a test task 99% of the time that is either massive or simply too hard for someone who just finished a boot camp.
it was drilled in our heads during this boot camp that we should accept a minimum of 120k rubles per month which is around 2k USD, and that's a lot of money and with that comes high expectations so my strategy is a bit off from what is being drilled in our heads I'm applying to vacancies that want new developers ( junior) even if they pay 80k I am willing to go down that road and work my way up. ( nearly everyone who graduated gets 110k minimum the highest is 160k ). the idea being, less pressure and more chance to be mentored. i think the biggest mistake I ever did was staying too long in Codecademy ( this being handheld was bad) it's not a bad resource as an introduction but I wish I went down the udemy way first then BootCamp.
the bottom line is there are many aha moments for me now, that I'm studying react again in English, a language I'm comfortable in compared to Russian. non the less I'm grateful and proud of my accomplishment of going through and graduating from this bootcamp.
as for the fellow students, they were 98% Russian or native Russian speakers. there were Russians who actually live in the united states but flew in specifically for the BootCamp. my class was 11 students including my self all Russians, all from Moscow and all got hired except me and another guy.
I will be very honest with regard to my experience with this whole process. Russian as I mentioned is a language I understand but not as a native, its my third language so if I could go back and redo this Bootcamp I would have prepared first using travesty udemy courses and then show up. the reason as to why I didn't get hired yet is due to the following:
1- there are some spaces in my understanding of javascript and react to a lesser extent. this leads me to panic when I don't know how to answer.
2- my biggest issue is I can't just sit and type code, I need to look at already written code, however, to actually sit and write it without looking is my Achilles heel and I'm working on fixing this issue. I think it's due to the inability to think like a programmer. I'm now doing travesty react course and building along and I've acquired a lot of knowledge with regards to react.
3- I did have several phone interviews, but unlike my colleagues, I never get called up for tech interviews instead I get a test task 99% of the time that is either massive or simply too hard for someone who just finished a boot camp.
it was drilled in our heads during this boot camp that we should accept a minimum of 120k rubles per month which is around 2k USD, and that's a lot of money and with that comes high expectations so my strategy is a bit off from what is being drilled in our heads I'm applying to vacancies that want new developers ( junior) even if they pay 80k I am willing to go down that road and work my way up. ( nearly everyone who graduated gets 110k minimum the highest is 160k ). the idea being, less pressure and more chance to be mentored. i think the biggest mistake I ever did was staying too long in Codecademy ( this being handheld was bad) it's not a bad resource as an introduction but I wish I went down the udemy way first then BootCamp.
the bottom line is there are many aha moments for me now, that I'm studying react again in English, a language I'm comfortable in compared to Russian. non the less I'm grateful and proud of my accomplishment of going through and graduating from this bootcamp.
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ok, the answer to your first question is, the boot camp cost me 250,000 Russian rubles which is $3000. from my understanding it's cheaper than a similar BootCamp in the united states. so you pay 3k for a 3 month BootCamp ( you can fail each phase just once).
as for the fellow students, they were 98% Russian or native Russian speakers. there were Russians who actually live in the united states but flew in specifically for the BootCamp. my class was 11 students including my self all Russians, all from Moscow and all got hired except me and another guy.
I will be very honest with regard to my experience with this whole process. Russian as I mentioned is a language I understand but not as a native, its my third language so if I could go back and redo this Bootcamp I would have prepared first using travesty udemy courses and then show up. the reason as to why I didn't get hired yet is due to the following:
1- there are some spaces in my understanding of javascript and react to a lesser extent. this leads me to panic when I don't know how to answer.
2- my biggest issue is I can't just sit and type code, I need to look at already written code, however, to actually sit and write it without looking is my Achilles heel and I'm working on fixing this issue. I think it's due to the inability to think like a programmer. I'm now doing travesty react course and building along and I've acquired a lot of knowledge with regards to react.
3- I did have several phone interviews, but unlike my colleagues, I never get called up for tech interviews instead I get a test task 99% of the time that is either massive or simply too hard for someone who just finished a boot camp.
it was drilled in our heads during this boot camp that we should accept a minimum of 120k rubles per month which is around 2k USD, and that's a lot of money and with that comes high expectations so my strategy is a bit off from what is being drilled in our heads I'm applying to vacancies that want new developers ( junior) even if they pay 80k I am willing to go down that road and work my way up. ( nearly everyone who graduated gets 110k minimum the highest is 160k ). the idea being, less pressure and more chance to be mentored. i think the biggest mistake I ever did was staying too long in Codecademy ( this being handheld was bad) it's not a bad resource as an introduction but I wish I went down the udemy way first then BootCamp.
the bottom line is there are many aha moments for me now, that I'm studying react again in English, a language I'm comfortable in compared to Russian. non the less I'm grateful and proud of my accomplishment of going through and graduating from this bootcamp.
hi bro, thank you for asking. I'm alright concerned of course with the sad ongoing events so I took a week off and I'm back on the job hunting path so hopefully picks up. i had a test task to do, it was not hard actually and it was the closest thing to a technical interview so im waiting to hear from that lead because it takes time. how about you? i hope all is good on your side )
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hi bro, thank you for asking. I'm alright concerned of course with the sad ongoing events so I took a week off and I'm back on the job hunting path so hopefully picks up. i had a test task to do, it was not hard actually and it was the closest thing to a technical interview so im waiting to hear from that lead because it takes time. how about you? i hope all is good on your side )
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what position did you apply?
I applied for a junior web developer ( front end react) what about how are you doing in your path?
like I wrote before I am not going to look at the salary figure as much as I care about the team. i would be extremely happy to get paid less but have a mentor and friendly colleagues at this stage. of course now working remote for non russian companies is sadly off the table ( there was massive demand) but I am sure when the dust settles and god willingly we move from this sad period of time I will try of course. until then I think it would be great to sharpen my skills and learn more. i am familiar with postgres SQL and of course using sequelize ( i don't like it very much) so i started figuring out firebase which is a nice and easier alternative to mongo db ( they are the same principle )
like I wrote before I am not going to look at the salary figure as much as I care about the team. i would be extremely happy to get paid less but have a mentor and friendly colleagues at this stage. of course now working remote for non russian companies is sadly off the table ( there was massive demand) but I am sure when the dust settles and god willingly we move from this sad period of time I will try of course. until then I think it would be great to sharpen my skills and learn more. i am familiar with postgres SQL and of course using sequelize ( i don't like it very much
) so i started figuring out firebase which is a nice and easier alternative to mongo db ( they are the same principle )
I applied for a junior web developer ( front end react) what about how are you doing in your path?
like I wrote before I am not going to look at the salary figure as much as I care about the team. i would be extremely happy to get paid less but have a mentor and friendly colleagues at this stage. of course now working remote for non russian companies is sadly off the table ( there was massive demand) but I am sure when the dust settles and god willingly we move from this sad period of time I will try of course. until then I think it would be great to sharpen my skills and learn more. i am familiar with postgres SQL and of course using sequelize ( i don't like it very much) so i started figuring out firebase which is a nice and easier alternative to mongo db ( they are the same principle )
like I wrote before I am not going to look at the salary figure as much as I care about the team. i would be extremely happy to get paid less but have a mentor and friendly colleagues at this stage. of course now working remote for non russian companies is sadly off the table ( there was massive demand) but I am sure when the dust settles and god willingly we move from this sad period of time I will try of course. until then I think it would be great to sharpen my skills and learn more. i am familiar with postgres SQL and of course using sequelize ( i don't like it very much
) so i started figuring out firebase which is a nice and easier alternative to mongo db ( they are the same principle )
I still keep learning but I totally feel the imposter syndrome.
Forza tuz coders .
I've just started using Atom to explore new experience in coding(C++ & Python). It will scan entire project files looking for colors and apply it to hex codes, color names and also Terminal Plus is my Happy Package. I can run multiple terminal windows at the bottom without having to use iTerm.
but i got a problem with making autosave in atom for like every 10 seconds? Cause I use auto refresh plugin, but I still need to press ctrl+s every time I wanna see changes that I just make
but i got a problem with making autosave in atom for like every 10 seconds? Cause I use auto refresh plugin, but I still need to press ctrl+s every time I wanna see changes that I just make
Hello Siamak, how is it going with you bro? thanks for asking. it's going well for me so far, had an interview and had some test tasks to do. nothing fruitful came out of the interview because back then i didn't have my citizenship which makes it harder for companies to hire me as i automatically belong to a higher tax group
i,e the company pays more taxes for hiring me. its not the end of the world as i got my citizenship today at long last and luckily the vacancies have increased so here is hoping. remember i had this career coach after finishing my bootcamp, well she hooked me up with another coach who deals with IT specialists who work for foreign companies so she helped me set up my resume so that it fits with the current hiring trend. As soon as i finish my paper work i will share it with you guys since it can help someone out just in case some of you are still looking for work. speaking of challenges i think you will be perfectly fine with your attitude as long as you don't give up. we all go through these days where things don't get through to your mind right away the main thing is you keep trying over and over and in the end it will work. so i sincerely wish you and all the rest in this awesome thread all the best on your journey
