That's right. I know he and Zetterburg have 10 plus year contracts. Though not as long as Hossa.
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Frankly, I really don't think Savard's contract is anywhere near this conversation. I think his deal totally respects and works within the cap structure. He's 39 in the last year of the deal, and the total $ figure is just north of 28M.
The Hossa, or Kovalchuk deal - in term, dollars, or even player age (considering that there aren't too many guys who play into their 40s) are quite different... or even Pronger's deal, which also takes him to age 42.
Until last season, Savvy had been pretty healthy for us; I know people don't think he'll play out the contract, he likely won't - especially after last year - but lots of players have played until they're 39.
But the deals that lock players in well into their 40s... I don't agree with that. 3 extra years is a big deal at that age, and 4-5 extra years is ridiculous.
I have no problem with teams signing guys like DiPietro to a 15 year deal that expires when he's 40. I think 40 is a reasonable cut off age for long term deals... but I do think that Garth Snow and the NYI are morons for committing to a player for that long. So much can go wrong... and has, really.
I like Franzen a lot, but I wouldn't want that contract.
There's no way in hell I would want Kovalchuk for the price the Devils paid.
Totally agree about the Hossa deal. Huge mistake, IMO. There was already so much young talent on that team... blew their flexibility moving forward.
I absolutely love that Zetterburg deal, and I think that's a prime example of what is right about these long term deals. 12 years is a long time, but Zetterburg is definitely worth the commitment. With budget restrictions already in place, teams should have a way to lock their stars up long term, so they can keep their core together. This deal makes total sense for the Wings, and frankly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hank played out his entire deal.
What would you guys think if the NHL capped deals at 10 years, and said that any deal over 5 years long had to expire by the time a player turned 40? Those would be some pretty straightforward rules. Some might consider that Agism... maybe? I don't know.
The Hossa, or Kovalchuk deal - in term, dollars, or even player age (considering that there aren't too many guys who play into their 40s) are quite different... or even Pronger's deal, which also takes him to age 42.
Until last season, Savvy had been pretty healthy for us; I know people don't think he'll play out the contract, he likely won't - especially after last year - but lots of players have played until they're 39.
But the deals that lock players in well into their 40s... I don't agree with that. 3 extra years is a big deal at that age, and 4-5 extra years is ridiculous.
I have no problem with teams signing guys like DiPietro to a 15 year deal that expires when he's 40. I think 40 is a reasonable cut off age for long term deals... but I do think that Garth Snow and the NYI are morons for committing to a player for that long. So much can go wrong... and has, really.
I like Franzen a lot, but I wouldn't want that contract.
There's no way in hell I would want Kovalchuk for the price the Devils paid.
Totally agree about the Hossa deal. Huge mistake, IMO. There was already so much young talent on that team... blew their flexibility moving forward.
I absolutely love that Zetterburg deal, and I think that's a prime example of what is right about these long term deals. 12 years is a long time, but Zetterburg is definitely worth the commitment. With budget restrictions already in place, teams should have a way to lock their stars up long term, so they can keep their core together. This deal makes total sense for the Wings, and frankly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hank played out his entire deal.
What would you guys think if the NHL capped deals at 10 years, and said that any deal over 5 years long had to expire by the time a player turned 40? Those would be some pretty straightforward rules. Some might consider that Agism... maybe? I don't know.
Savard is still feeling the effects of the Cooke hit.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=537808
Not good.
By the way, Mark, are we doing the fantasy league again?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=537808
Not good.
By the way, Mark, are we doing the fantasy league again?
Ken Hitchcock is helping out at our training camp. Holy crap. 
http://www.freep.com/article/201009...5/Ken-Hitchcock-helping-out-at-Red-Wings-camp
I don't know how much this happens in the NHL, but he's a pretty good coach from his Dallas days. To have him just show up out of the Blue (pun intended) should be a plus to the grinder guys.
http://www.freep.com/article/201009...5/Ken-Hitchcock-helping-out-at-Red-Wings-camp
I don't know how much this happens in the NHL, but he's a pretty good coach from his Dallas days. To have him just show up out of the Blue (pun intended) should be a plus to the grinder guys.
Yeah, it's terrible news buddy. I just hope he gets healthy; Savvy has been great for us, but this is only a game. I would rather he never played again, then come back too soon and compromise his health.
Anyway, our team has some experience with concussions, and they'll do everything they can to make sure he's healthy when he comes back. Unfortunately, head injuries are pretty hard to gauge a lot of the time, and it's easy for doctors to make mistakes. Slow and cautious is definitely better here.
It's obviously a big loss for the Bruins, but it is somewhat fortunate that outside of the goaltenders, Center is probably Boston's deepest position (and if you count our prospects in the farm system, then center is our deepest position).
Anyway, hopefully he's healthy and feeling much better soon.
Anyway, our team has some experience with concussions, and they'll do everything they can to make sure he's healthy when he comes back. Unfortunately, head injuries are pretty hard to gauge a lot of the time, and it's easy for doctors to make mistakes. Slow and cautious is definitely better here.
It's obviously a big loss for the Bruins, but it is somewhat fortunate that outside of the goaltenders, Center is probably Boston's deepest position (and if you count our prospects in the farm system, then center is our deepest position).
Anyway, hopefully he's healthy and feeling much better soon.
:wub: :jvefan: 
You guys want to do it again?
Horton is a nice piece that we added on the wing, but with Sturm hurt AGAIN, and Ryder being all but useless (it is a contract year, however), we're definitely light on wingers. God bless Recchi, I hope he puts in a solid season, we really need him. Can't expect a whole lot of production from a 42 year old though.
I thought that Seguin was going to play wing to start (obviously when Savvy was still in the initial plans), but he was centering Recchi and Lovecchio in the first day of camp (not that that really means anything at all).
It'll be interesting to see how Caron, and Sauve develop... couple young wingers who are probably both at least a year, maybe two away. Seem like they've got some nice potential though.
Gionta's always been a solid leader. Nice move by Montreal.
Fuck, I hate Cooke. I don't know about a lawsuit, but I certainly hope that Matt Cooke gets pounded repeatedly this season. Now that Lucic is close to 100% again, I fully expect him to lay a thorough beat down on Cooke.
I thought that Seguin was going to play wing to start (obviously when Savvy was still in the initial plans), but he was centering Recchi and Lovecchio in the first day of camp (not that that really means anything at all).
It'll be interesting to see how Caron, and Sauve develop... couple young wingers who are probably both at least a year, maybe two away. Seem like they've got some nice potential though.
Fuck, I hate Cooke. I don't know about a lawsuit, but I certainly hope that Matt Cooke gets pounded repeatedly this season. Now that Lucic is close to 100% again, I fully expect him to lay a thorough beat down on Cooke.