Reading that Pels hoping they can get Tatum in the summer. With the whole football controversy, I can totally see the fan base pressuring their office not to trade AD to LA.
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I dont see how the Knicks and Clippers fit there? Because of capspace for another max?
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Solomon Hill i think. Under contract for 13M next season. NO would want to give us him or Moore imo
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I agree, summer would be ideal. Also we might be able to keep one of the 2 maybe. What CR7 wrote above is essentialy Zo, Kuz, BI, 2 1sts and salary filler. Now, is an offer of BI, Kuz, Zu, Hart, Moe and say 3-4 1st round picks that much worse? It seems like they determined AD as their go after guy, which is fine, but it would be good if we wait. 1. We keep the 38M if KD wants to come. 2. Even if he doesent, we can give 32M to Kawhi or Kyrie (or Klay, Butler, Boogie if hes back to 100%) 3. We then make the same offer for AD 4. Bonus, if we find a deal good enough to keep Ball, we arent left with AD and eventual 2nd max alone, once 34 year old James is gone
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If Boston is willing to give Tatum for a potential one year rental, we have the 2nd best offer. But it might turn out good for them if Kyrie stays and they go to the finals with AD
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Solomon Hill i think. Under contract for 13M next season. NO would want to give us him or Moore imo
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I agree, summer would be ideal. Also we might be able to keep one of the 2 maybe. What CR7 wrote above is essentialy Zo, Kuz, BI, 2 1sts and salary filler. Now, is an offer of BI, Kuz, Zu, Hart, Moe and say 3-4 1st round picks that much worse? It seems like they determined AD as their go after guy, which is fine, but it would be good if we wait. 1. We keep the 38M if KD wants to come. 2. Even if he doesent, we can give 32M to Kawhi or Kyrie (or Klay, Butler, Boogie if hes back to 100%) 3. We then make the same offer for AD 4. Bonus, if we find a deal good enough to keep Ball, we arent left with AD and eventual 2nd max alone, once 34 year old James is gone
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If Boston is willing to give Tatum for a potential one year rental, we have the 2nd best offer. But it might turn out good for them if Kyrie stays and they go to the finals with AD
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Knicks have cap space for two max players this summer. Apparently up to $74.6 mil can be freed up. So if they were to get the No 1 pick, plus Dallas 1st rounders in 2021 and 2023 I believe, they'd be able to offer Zion, two 1st rounders, Dennis Smith Jr, and some of their other young players.
It really depends on how much of a generational talent NO front office sees Zion as. Because if they see him as the next Lebron/whatever other superstar you want to insert here, that might just be the best offer for them. Zion is probably the highest ceiling player available in any of these trades, assuming Knicks get No1 (14% chance or whatever). Dude has a higher ceiling than Tatum by far.
It really depends on how much of a generational talent NO front office sees Zion as. Because if they see him as the next Lebron/whatever other superstar you want to insert here, that might just be the best offer for them. Zion is probably the highest ceiling player available in any of these trades, assuming Knicks get No1 (14% chance or whatever). Dude has a higher ceiling than Tatum by far.
I just checked and youre right. They got rid of all their big contracts in the Porzingis trade and now have only Ntklina, Smith, Knox, Robinson (four U21 kids) under guaranteed contracts next season. Add to that the no.1 pick if they get it, and thats around 23M in salaries they can send out for Davis on those 5 players alone. Before that they can sign KD even (38M), and/or one of/two of Kyrie, Kawhi, Klay, Butler (32,7M). You are potentially looking at a big 3 here, where atleast 2 of the 3 are in their primes. But they would need some luck here, getting a top3 pick atleast, and NO viewing that pick as the most valuable asset acquirable. Hats off if they can do it
Absolutely.
I don't even agree with shipping Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac/Hart and 2 firsts.
I like our young guys. AD is great, don't get me wrong, but the upside of a line-up with Lebron-Kuzma/Ingram-Zubac starting front court, with Lonzo + elite SG (Klay, Butler, etc) backcourt, and then Ingram/Kuzma as 6th man of the year type player is just too high to scuttle it completely and have a big three that we gutted the entire team for and ended up with no depth at all, and relying veteran minimum contracts,.
Let Boston or New York mortgage everything to get him. I'd prefer we didn't.
2 of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma + Zubac + 2 first should be the absolute max we offer.
I don't even agree with shipping Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac/Hart and 2 firsts.
I like our young guys. AD is great, don't get me wrong, but the upside of a line-up with Lebron-Kuzma/Ingram-Zubac starting front court, with Lonzo + elite SG (Klay, Butler, etc) backcourt, and then Ingram/Kuzma as 6th man of the year type player is just too high to scuttle it completely and have a big three that we gutted the entire team for and ended up with no depth at all, and relying veteran minimum contracts,.
Let Boston or New York mortgage everything to get him. I'd prefer we didn't.
2 of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma + Zubac + 2 first should be the absolute max we offer.
I say you sign Cousins on cheaper 20-25m deal (if no one offers more), sign another max, doubt its gonna be a superstar, but another all star. And keep all the kids. Maybe trade Ingram if the 3rd star is a wing (and because Ingram is a mess most times I see him).
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Ingram is looking a lot better over the last month. Before that, by far the most disappointing young player so far this year on the team. If he can keep developing on his play from January, I’m still excited about his potential.
He really needs to put on 10-20lbs of muscle though. His legs are toothpicks. He’s very athletic, has great length, and is a good defender... but he’s also very easy to physically bully on the court, especially by aggressive defenders.
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Even this trade would have been retarded. That’s far more than anyone else is going to offer for AD. My bet is that AD goes for significantly less than this to someone else in the summer... there’s just way too much pressure right now in the league to not do anything beneficial for the Lakers.
He really needs to put on 10-20lbs of muscle though. His legs are toothpicks. He’s very athletic, has great length, and is a good defender... but he’s also very easy to physically bully on the court, especially by aggressive defenders.
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Even this trade would have been retarded. That’s far more than anyone else is going to offer for AD. My bet is that AD goes for significantly less than this to someone else in the summer... there’s just way too much pressure right now in the league to not do anything beneficial for the Lakers.
Ingram has improved quite a bit in the past month. He's playing more to his strength, which is shooting from the elbow and driving to the rim. It's no coincidence that his shooting % has jumped significantly in January.
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I still say that Ingram hs the highest ceiling out of all of them. And can we please remember that he is still just 21? His numbers are getting better every year.
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And I wouldn't sign Cousins at 20-25 million if Zubac keeps improving the way he does. They need a shooter more than anything else.
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Ingram averaged 19/6/4 on 51% shooting from the field in January. Kid is getting better.
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I still say that Ingram hs the highest ceiling out of all of them. And can we please remember that he is still just 21? His numbers are getting better every year.
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And I wouldn't sign Cousins at 20-25 million if Zubac keeps improving the way he does. They need a shooter more than anything else.
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Ingram averaged 19/6/4 on 51% shooting from the field in January. Kid is getting better.
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You seriously think what Zubac shown is enough to say no to Cousins, who not long ago was the best big in the league? He should be good bang for the buck now that he looks healthyish.
And yeah Ingram should be the most talented amongst your core, but he is too much of ball stopper whenever I seen him (thinks he can handle the ball and ISOed too much), cant faciliate like he thinks, when Lebron isn't playing. And when Lebron is playing Ingram seems to be bad fit for the team.
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And yeah Ingram should be the most talented amongst your core, but he is too much of ball stopper whenever I seen him (thinks he can handle the ball and ISOed too much), cant faciliate like he thinks, when Lebron isn't playing. And when Lebron is playing Ingram seems to be bad fit for the team.
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Klay would be ideal.
We have a damn good front court for next year with Lebron, Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac, plus rotation pieces. All the young guys will be better, and I’m sure we can find pieces like McGee to add around them. Plus we will see what Moritz Wagner and Svi can add as depth off the bench in their second years.
A star that’s a 3 point shooter beside Lonzo in the backcourt would be ideal. Klay first and foremost, Jimmy Butler next. I really really like Khris Middleton, if he can be signed on less than a max deal, leaving some space for other signings.
And then there’s the option of a scoring PG like Kemba Walker or Kyrie.
Or of course best players available, Durant or Kawhi, which if there is interest you sign regardless of positional need.
I’m sure we will get someone that improves us a lot. And this is the path I hope the franchise takes. None of this mortgaging everything for AD nonsense.
We have a damn good front court for next year with Lebron, Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac, plus rotation pieces. All the young guys will be better, and I’m sure we can find pieces like McGee to add around them. Plus we will see what Moritz Wagner and Svi can add as depth off the bench in their second years.
A star that’s a 3 point shooter beside Lonzo in the backcourt would be ideal. Klay first and foremost, Jimmy Butler next. I really really like Khris Middleton, if he can be signed on less than a max deal, leaving some space for other signings.
And then there’s the option of a scoring PG like Kemba Walker or Kyrie.
Or of course best players available, Durant or Kawhi, which if there is interest you sign regardless of positional need.
I’m sure we will get someone that improves us a lot. And this is the path I hope the franchise takes. None of this mortgaging everything for AD nonsense.
For 20-25 million, I would say no at that point. Zubac has shown that he is a big man that can start in this league, and isn't the type of Center where he just gets garbage buckets. You can draw up plays for him down low, and he's decent off the pick and roll. He will most likely never reach Cousins level, but he can still be a good center in this league
They need at least one shooter. That is their most glaring weakness right now