It makes sense because the team is going nowhere. They get a young piece in Harris, a 1st round pick and about 9 million in cap space next year
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They are REBUILDING/tanking late, after they realized they cant contend with this decent/good roster due to all the massive injuries they have had. They are hitting the reset button on Blake, harsh, but he has gigantic contract and allways injured a third of the season...
They will trade DeAndre Jordan and Lou Will soon for draft picks too probably, but Jerry West must be confused, because he should have started this rebuild phase from the get go, because now they have won too many games to truly tank for a good pick and rebuild.
They are defenitely not doing this for Bron, you dont trade a Franchise player in Blake, even a fragile and troublesome one (dudes punches staff...), if you wanna attract Bron or any other big FA. Its a guess, but I dont think they going for this free agency, but prolly the one in 2019 or 2020, more opportunities then while rebuilding slowly with draft assets.
Trouble is the Pistons pick they got is gonna be in the 12-18 range prolly. So what they need to do is trade Jordan/Lou Will to Cavs for the brooklyn pic, thats more or less guranteed to be top 6 pic.
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And few days ago Jeff Teague HAD THE MOST AWFUL GAME I EVER SEEN by an NBA player ever vs Hawks. I just dont know how to describe it...you should just seen it...Agent saboteur for his former team...
HE ABSOLUTELY killed the Wolves in every facet of the game (He would make Harden look like Kawhi in defending, made awful missed passes after letting clock run down to 5 seconds, missed every shot or didnt even attempt to take open shots...). And the bizzare thing is Thibs keeping him in all game, he even managed to throw away the game in last seconds, Wolves have the ball, he is inbounding, its 14 seconds left,down 1 point to Hawks (this team is awfully lazy/arrogant against all shit East teams away, seem like they barely try), he cant find someone open to inbound to, get 5 seconds call on him, and TRIES to calls a timeout to save himself, thing is WOLVES DONT HAVE A TIMEOUT left
So its turnover to Hawks with seconds left...
Whole game was awful, but that ending, rivals Harden choking away the win for Rockets by fouling flopping ass Marcus Smart twice in last seconds to gift Celtics the win.
Edit: Someone actually made a "lowlights" of Teagues performance
Thibs did such a horrible job signing him...The sooner they get rid the better.
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Had to look it up, and funny thing is it didnt take long to show OKC what an AWFUL trade it was to make
They will trade DeAndre Jordan and Lou Will soon for draft picks too probably, but Jerry West must be confused, because he should have started this rebuild phase from the get go, because now they have won too many games to truly tank for a good pick and rebuild.
They are defenitely not doing this for Bron, you dont trade a Franchise player in Blake, even a fragile and troublesome one (dudes punches staff...), if you wanna attract Bron or any other big FA. Its a guess, but I dont think they going for this free agency, but prolly the one in 2019 or 2020, more opportunities then while rebuilding slowly with draft assets.
Trouble is the Pistons pick they got is gonna be in the 12-18 range prolly. So what they need to do is trade Jordan/Lou Will to Cavs for the brooklyn pic, thats more or less guranteed to be top 6 pic.
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James Harden just had the NBA's first ever 60 point triple double. 60 points on 19/30 shooting, 10 rebounds, 11 assists, 4 steals, 1 block.
even if it was against Orlando.
even if it was against Orlando.
HE ABSOLUTELY killed the Wolves in every facet of the game (He would make Harden look like Kawhi in defending, made awful missed passes after letting clock run down to 5 seconds, missed every shot or didnt even attempt to take open shots...). And the bizzare thing is Thibs keeping him in all game, he even managed to throw away the game in last seconds, Wolves have the ball, he is inbounding, its 14 seconds left,down 1 point to Hawks (this team is awfully lazy/arrogant against all shit East teams away, seem like they barely try), he cant find someone open to inbound to, get 5 seconds call on him, and TRIES to calls a timeout to save himself, thing is WOLVES DONT HAVE A TIMEOUT left
So its turnover to Hawks with seconds left...Whole game was awful, but that ending, rivals Harden choking away the win for Rockets by fouling flopping ass Marcus Smart twice in last seconds to gift Celtics the win.
Edit: Someone actually made a "lowlights" of Teagues performance
Thibs did such a horrible job signing him...The sooner they get rid the better.
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Had to look it up, and funny thing is it didnt take long to show OKC what an AWFUL trade it was to make
One of the two will definitely go by the deadline. I think it will be Clarkson. You move 12.5 million off the books for next year, and I would much rather have Randle. Once they have rescinded Lopez, Pope, and Brewer at the end of the year, they will have room for 1 max slot and a 20 million/ year player.
I know the Lakers want 2 max slots, but I have always said that I don't. If you have to get just one free agent to make a huge difference, then you go for Lebron. You bring in Lebron, then you use the remaining cap space to get either a center or a another rotation guard.
Now hear me out on this. I know that people think that I am fucking nuts for thinking that Lebron would consider the Lakers, but take a look at this for a second, assuming that Randle stays. This is the core of the team coming back for next year.
Randle- 23 $12.4 million (Cap Hold)
Ingram -20 $5.8 million
Ball - 20 $7.5 million
Hart- 23 $1.7 Million
Nance- 25 $2.272 Million
Kuzma-22 $1.7 Million
5 of the 6 players on this list are still on their rookie contracts. Those contracts total, assuming they bring Randle back, is only 31 million dollars.
Add in Luol Deng's stupid ass contract of 18 million, and that comes to 49 million.
With a salary cap of 101 million, that is still $52 million under the cap.
Whomever the lakers decide to sign, will be joining a young, athletic squad, for an organization that would not have to make any compromises to fit him under the cap.
That alone, that last sentence, is something to think about.
I know the Lakers want 2 max slots, but I have always said that I don't. If you have to get just one free agent to make a huge difference, then you go for Lebron. You bring in Lebron, then you use the remaining cap space to get either a center or a another rotation guard.
Now hear me out on this. I know that people think that I am fucking nuts for thinking that Lebron would consider the Lakers, but take a look at this for a second, assuming that Randle stays. This is the core of the team coming back for next year.
Randle- 23 $12.4 million (Cap Hold)
Ingram -20 $5.8 million
Ball - 20 $7.5 million
Hart- 23 $1.7 Million
Nance- 25 $2.272 Million
Kuzma-22 $1.7 Million
5 of the 6 players on this list are still on their rookie contracts. Those contracts total, assuming they bring Randle back, is only 31 million dollars.
Add in Luol Deng's stupid ass contract of 18 million, and that comes to 49 million.
With a salary cap of 101 million, that is still $52 million under the cap.
Whomever the lakers decide to sign, will be joining a young, athletic squad, for an organization that would not have to make any compromises to fit him under the cap.
That alone, that last sentence, is something to think about.
bro, im super excited with this young core, and im positively surprised with Hart especially. when i 1st saw him and knowing his background from the NCAA where he stayed 4 years and won a title, i was expecting a 3 and D hardworking role player on a playoff team, but now i think he might have the potentntial for something more even. love his game, the way he attacks the rim every time in transition is beautiful to watch. if he can get his 3pt shot to fall at good rates regularly, hes a lock to start here for years as far as im concerned.
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im actually with you on this, and the reason for that is - defense. Warriors roflstomped the Cavs in the finals because of their mediocre defense (even their statistically all time great offense didnt help), and this season the trend seems to continue. Houston toyed with them as well, even the additions of some athleticism in Crowder and Green didnt get them far. now, i havent seen the Lakers play in 3 weeks (they came out of their losing streak and started winning once i stopped watching, odd), but what ive seen i can tell you, they are potentially a top NBA defense. Ball and Ingram have all NBA defense potential, Randle can switch on anyone, Hart was a good defender before coming to the NBA even, showed you can count on him on this level as well, he can even guard some small 4s even for a few possessions. they have the quickness, size and length to switch anything (unless you have two 7footers on the floor), they close out on open 3s very good which is very important with teams like the Rockets and Warriors. the other thing, we match up well with the Warriors from what ive seen. Ingram defends Durant as good as almost anyone in this league that ive seen (and you need a Durant defender with Lebron on your team, as James clearly cant do it. you must match him up with Green/Iguodala to stand a chance), Ball even when the sample size is not a lot, played some good defense on Curry in the 3 games ive seen us play them, Randle can switch on either of them and hold his ground. if only Kuzma could also become a good defender.
Paul George with the recent success they had, assuming they make a late playoff push, i think is more likely to stay than come here. but if in some crazy scenario he opts into his last 20M contract year and is traded here on top of signing Lebron, oh boy. in other news, we still need some shooters, so id look for how little Belinelli would be willing to sign
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disclaimer: not saying we would beat the Warriors with James on the team, just stating reasons why this Lakers core would be on top of his prefered destinations once he leaves. just wanted to make that clear before someone missunderstands
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im actually with you on this, and the reason for that is - defense. Warriors roflstomped the Cavs in the finals because of their mediocre defense (even their statistically all time great offense didnt help), and this season the trend seems to continue. Houston toyed with them as well, even the additions of some athleticism in Crowder and Green didnt get them far. now, i havent seen the Lakers play in 3 weeks (they came out of their losing streak and started winning once i stopped watching, odd), but what ive seen i can tell you, they are potentially a top NBA defense. Ball and Ingram have all NBA defense potential, Randle can switch on anyone, Hart was a good defender before coming to the NBA even, showed you can count on him on this level as well, he can even guard some small 4s even for a few possessions. they have the quickness, size and length to switch anything (unless you have two 7footers on the floor), they close out on open 3s very good which is very important with teams like the Rockets and Warriors. the other thing, we match up well with the Warriors from what ive seen. Ingram defends Durant as good as almost anyone in this league that ive seen (and you need a Durant defender with Lebron on your team, as James clearly cant do it. you must match him up with Green/Iguodala to stand a chance), Ball even when the sample size is not a lot, played some good defense on Curry in the 3 games ive seen us play them, Randle can switch on either of them and hold his ground. if only Kuzma could also become a good defender.
Paul George with the recent success they had, assuming they make a late playoff push, i think is more likely to stay than come here. but if in some crazy scenario he opts into his last 20M contract year and is traded here on top of signing Lebron, oh boy. in other news, we still need some shooters, so id look for how little Belinelli would be willing to sign
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disclaimer: not saying we would beat the Warriors with James on the team, just stating reasons why this Lakers core would be on top of his prefered destinations once he leaves. just wanted to make that clear before someone missunderstands
If they have to trade somebody, I would rather it be Clarkson than Randle.
Clarkson is instant offense, but Randle is an athletic freak at his size and height. He's not afraid to get down low. Guards are a little easier to find.
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And no sooner do I say this, reports form Ramona Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowksi are stating that the Lakers are now concentrating on the 2019 Free Agent class instead of this year.
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I think Magic and Pelinka are starting to realize that the costs of trying to get 2 max players this year may not be worth the two pieces they would have to give up (Clarkson and Randle)
Clarkson is instant offense, but Randle is an athletic freak at his size and height. He's not afraid to get down low. Guards are a little easier to find.
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And no sooner do I say this, reports form Ramona Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowksi are stating that the Lakers are now concentrating on the 2019 Free Agent class instead of this year.
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I think Magic and Pelinka are starting to realize that the costs of trying to get 2 max players this year may not be worth the two pieces they would have to give up (Clarkson and Randle)
Klay coming home 
not much else to look at otherwise, no?
not much else to look at otherwise, no?
I was never really on board with Lebron on the Lakers, and I definitely was not on board with clearing 2 max slots for this year.
2019 could be a little easier to do that, since Clarkson would be on an expiring contract next year.