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[KB824]

So OKC to lose Westbrook too? Gonna be a shell of a team next year.

If they trade him.

If they keep him, they are still a playoff team in the west. There is a good amount of talent on that team

 

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[Martin]

If they trade him.

If they keep him, they are still a playoff team in the west. There is a good amount of talent on that team

They should do more inter disciplinary trades. Westbrook for Nainggolan.

 

[Salvo]

So why did the Chris Paul trade get vetoed?

 

[Osman]

So why did the Chris Paul trade get vetoed?

Good question, found an interesting article http://nypost.com/2015/12/09/how-one-vetoed-trade-derailed-lakers-changed-nba-forever/

 

[Salvo]

Was bullshit.

 

[ALC]

Hornets were owned by the NBA, different scenario. It's like an owner not wanting to give away their best player.

 

[Salvo]

Hornets were owned by the NBA, different scenario. It's like an owner not wanting to give away their best player.

They traded him anyway.

 

[KB824]

They traded him anyway.

A week later, no less.

to what was perceived as a "small market" team, which is what they wanted. They didn't want a "Super Team", although the NBA was totally complicit in allowing Bosh, James, and Wade to go to Miami. And before anyone says that "Well, they were free agents", Miami had to make lopsided trades in order to facilitate these moves in order to get under the cap to get all three, and the NBA, and its owners, knew full well what the endgame was after all was said and done, and played along with it.

They didn't have an issue with a Super Team. They had an issue with the Lakers forming a Super Team. That much is obvious.

And you know what is funny? Everyone complained that the Lakers were getting the best player in the deal, while totally forgetting that they were giving up the 2nd AND 3rd best players in the deal.

Lamar 14.4 8.0 3.3 while shooting 53% from the field the previous year, after he had won the 6th man award

Gasol 18.8 10.2 3.3 while also shooting 54% form the field, and 83% from the free throw line. Who was also an NBA All 2nd team player that year and an all-star

And the hue and cry that "They could go and get Dwight Howard after this trade".

Ok. So you are going to stop one trade because you are afraid that it could lead to another?


And they didn't want Paul going to the Big Market "Los Angeles" Lakers, but were totally cool with him going to the small market "Los Angeles" Clippers.

The fact that the NBA, ESPN, and every major media outlet is excited about 2 super teams now in Cleveland and Golden State is just a little ironic here. The same thing that the owners wanted to avoid when they did the CBA back then, it is happening now

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Hornets were owned by the NBA, different scenario. It's like an owner not wanting to give away their best player.

And in hindsight, the Hornets ended up getting a worse package in the deal.

 

[zizinho]

It was total BS because the Hornets (their GM or whoever was in charge back then) accepted that Lakers deal yet it got vetoed by owners of other clubs. Apparently, Cleveland owners know better whats good for the Hornets franchise than the people running that team. Total disgrace and disrespect towards the Hornets

 

[KB824]

It was total BS because the Hornets (their GM or whoever was in charge back then) accepted that Lakers deal yet it got vetoed by owners of other clubs. Apparently, Cleveland owners know better whats good for the Hornets franchise than the people running that team. Total disgrace and disrespect towards the Hornets

And if you read that douchebag Dan Gilbert's letter again, not once does he ever state concern for the Hornets when he complained about it to Stern.

Not only that, but Houston accepted it too.

Three teams thought that it was a fair trade.

Put it this way.

Replace "Lakers" with "Trailblazers", and that trade goes through without a hitch

 

[zizinho]

And if you read that douchebag Dan Gilbert's letter again, not once does he ever state concern for the Hornets when he complained about it to Stern.

Not only that, but Houston accepted it too.

Three teams thought that it was a fair trade.

Put it this way.

Replace "Lakers" with "Trailblazers", and that trade goes through without a hitch

Cant get over it that this garbage person won a title. Hope he goes to Guantanamo prison and gets tortured there for selling drugs to kids or gets captured by ISIS

 

[KB824]

Cant get over it that this garbage person won a title. Hope he goes to Guantanamo prison and gets tortured there for selling drugs to kids or gets captured by ISIS

And he was really the ONLY reason why I didn't want CLeveland to win. Because that means that he would have won. After the way he trashed Lebron after he went to Miami.


Compare that to Sam Presti at OKC and the class he showed when Durant left.

 

[zizinho]

And he was really the ONLY reason why I didn't want CLeveland to win. Because that means that he would have won. After the way he trashed Lebron after he went to Miami.


Compare that to Sam Presti at OKC and the class he showed when Durant left.

I remember when he promised Cleveland will win a title before Lebron does not only is he an absolutely disgusting person, but an idiot too. Moratti and Berlusconi all in one

 

[ALC]

A week later, no less.

to what was perceived as a "small market" team, which is what they wanted. They didn't want a "Super Team", although the NBA was totally complicit in allowing Bosh, James, and Wade to go to Miami. And before anyone says that "Well, they were free agents", Miami had to make lopsided trades in order to facilitate these moves in order to get under the cap to get all three, and the NBA, and its owners, knew full well what the endgame was after all was said and done, and played along with it.

They didn't have an issue with a Super Team. They had an issue with the Lakers forming a Super Team. That much is obvious.

And you know what is funny? Everyone complained that the Lakers were getting the best player in the deal, while totally forgetting that they were giving up the 2nd AND 3rd best players in the deal.

Lamar 14.4 8.0 3.3 while shooting 53% from the field the previous year, after he had won the 6th man award

Gasol 18.8 10.2 3.3 while also shooting 54% form the field, and 83% from the free throw line. Who was also an NBA All 2nd team player that year and an all-star

And the hue and cry that "They could go and get Dwight Howard after this trade".

Ok. So you are going to stop one trade because you are afraid that it could lead to another?


And they didn't want Paul going to the Big Market "Los Angeles" Lakers, but were totally cool with him going to the small market "Los Angeles" Clippers.

The fact that the NBA, ESPN, and every major media outlet is excited about 2 super teams now in Cleveland and Golden State is just a little ironic here. The same thing that the owners wanted to avoid when they did the CBA back then, it is happening now

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And in hindsight, the Hornets ended up getting a worse package in the deal.

So what if the NBA knew Miami was about to form a super team? There really was nothing they could do. Just like there is nothing they can do about Durant going to GSW. There was something they could do about CP3 going to the Lakers and they did it. In hindsight it might not have been the best move and maybe they were hoping to get more for him but there is no injustice or wrong done here.

Even if they had an issue with the Lakers forming a super team, it was totally within their rights not to help them achieve that. They went with the feedback from the rest of the owners. Can't really blame them for that.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I don't know how you can defend the fairness of not letting paul go to LA, that really screwed them big time. Also, funny how with more teams the league just got super diluted talent-wise and is losing fans by the day.

 

[Martin]

Dwayne Wade went to the Bulls? This is getting really confusing now.

 

[Salvo]

Jose Calderon to the Lakers

 

[KB824]

So what if the NBA knew Miami was about to form a super team? There really was nothing they could do. Just like there is nothing they can do about Durant going to GSW. There was something they could do about CP3 going to the Lakers and they did it. In hindsight it might not have been the best move and maybe they were hoping to get more for him but there is no injustice or wrong done here.

Even if they had an issue with the Lakers forming a super team, it was totally within their rights not to help them achieve that. They went with the feedback from the rest of the owners. Can't really blame them for that.

Of course there was something wrong with it. The NBA gave the Hornets GM Carte Blanche to make trades that he thought was in the best interests of the franchise. That trade was what he thought was in the best interests of the franchise, and David Stern bowed to the pressure of the other owners and overruled it.

And the irony is that the Paul trade DID allow a Los Angeles team to basically form a super team. Except it was the Clippers.

 

[zizinho]

So Wade is going home, nice

 

[KB824]

And something else on this. People ASSUMED that the Lakers were going to go after Dwight Howard, which is what a lot of the owners, including in writing from Dan Gilbert, was their main concern.

What if they didn't get him? They would have lost Odom and Gasol and gained Chris Paul. How much better would they have been after that exchange? Yes, their backcourt would have been fantastic but their frontcourt would have been depleted.

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Jose Calderon to the Lakers

They get a couple of 2nd round picks as well. Calderon is now the backup PG, and he is on a 1 year contract. Saves the cap room for next year