The Lebanese political crisis!!! (28 Viewers)
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Rab,
Don't understand me wrongly, but do you think Saad Hariri is qualified to be a critical man in Lebanon??
I mean except his father's money, what has he got to provide for his people??
What does he know about politics??
Don't take the question wrongly, but I really look for an answer...
And don't accuse me of being with the other party, because simply I'm NOT...
Don't understand me wrongly, but do you think Saad Hariri is qualified to be a critical man in Lebanon??
I mean except his father's money, what has he got to provide for his people??
What does he know about politics??
Don't take the question wrongly, but I really look for an answer...
And don't accuse me of being with the other party, because simply I'm NOT...
Saad Hariri is still pretty young, he can't be compared to Samir Geagea or Walid Joumblat or to his father.
But so far he's selecting the right road, and he was spot on from both Nabih Berre and Hasan Nasrallah. Though they disagree on lot of things, they both admited that Sheikh Saad Hariri is on the right path.
One thing people should know is that Saad Hariri isn't there to turn "Future Movement" that was created under his Father into Militia like Hezbollah media are trying to show it.
Yesterday on LBC with May Chidiak, he stated many times that he took the charge after his father not for any political reason, but to CONTINUE what Rafik Hariri wanted, and that is building Lebanon, giving a bright future for students, and gathering the Shii'te, Christians, Druz, Sunni's and other sects to be united...and etc.
Everyday he's announcing the oppositions(Hezbollah) that his hand and all 14march leader's hands are open for any discussion, they're waiting to sit on a table with them.
But one thing Saad Hariri cannot accept is Bashar's regime putting pressure on Hezbollah which is leading into a mass and it almost lead into a civil war few weeks ago.
But so far he's selecting the right road, and he was spot on from both Nabih Berre and Hasan Nasrallah. Though they disagree on lot of things, they both admited that Sheikh Saad Hariri is on the right path.
One thing people should know is that Saad Hariri isn't there to turn "Future Movement" that was created under his Father into Militia like Hezbollah media are trying to show it.
Yesterday on LBC with May Chidiak, he stated many times that he took the charge after his father not for any political reason, but to CONTINUE what Rafik Hariri wanted, and that is building Lebanon, giving a bright future for students, and gathering the Shii'te, Christians, Druz, Sunni's and other sects to be united...and etc.
Everyday he's announcing the oppositions(Hezbollah) that his hand and all 14march leader's hands are open for any discussion, they're waiting to sit on a table with them.
But one thing Saad Hariri cannot accept is Bashar's regime putting pressure on Hezbollah which is leading into a mass and it almost lead into a civil war few weeks ago.
Lebanese crowds mark Hariri death despite bombs
Reuters - 2007 / 2 / 14
Crowds gathered in central Beirut on Wednesday to remember Rafik al-Hariri two years after the Lebanese former prime minister's assassination.
Saad al-Hariri, son of Rafik Hariri, said the rally would go ahead despite bus bombs that killed three people and wounded 20 in a Christian area on Tuesday.
Hariri and his ruling coalition allies called the memorial rally to show support for the government, which is resisting a campaign by the Hezbollah-led opposition to topple it.
The coalition blamed Tuesday's bombs on Syria, which it also says was behind the Feb. 14, 2005, suicide bombing that killed Rafik al-Hariri and a string of later attacks on anti-Syrian figures.
Thousands of Hariri loyalists streamed to the heavily protected Martyrs Square near his grave hours ahead of the rally.
"Not going out (to the rally) is bending to fear, giving in to what they want to do to us," his son told LBC television.
Syria denies involvement in Hariri's assassination, which triggered international pressure that forced Damascus to withdraw its troops in 2005 after 29 years in Lebanon.
Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has declared Feb. 14 a national holiday and day of mourning. Shops, schools and businesses are closed. Troops reinforced positions in downtown Beirut.
HEAVY SECURITY
Security forces erected fences and barbed wire to keep Hariri supporters separated from opposition activists who have been camped outside Siniora's office nearby since Dec. 1.
Hundreds of soldiers and police with armoured vehicles guarded Martyrs Square and diverted traffic away from the area.
Sectarian tensions have run high between pro-government Sunnis and Shi'ite Muslim supporters of opposition groups Hezbollah and Amal, both allies of Syria.
Hariri said he wanted the anniversary to be "an occasion for the Lebanese to emphasise their adherence to the truth" -- a reference to bringing his father's killers to justice. He said it was vital that a U.N.-backed tribunal try the suspects.
Hariri's allies say the opposition is acting on Syrian orders to oust the government and derail the tribunal.
The U.N. Security Council and the Beirut government have approved plans for the court. But Lebanon's pro-Syrian president has not and the plans cannot come into force until ratified by parliament which is due to come into session in mid-March.
Parliament Speaker and Amal leader Nabih Berri says the government has lost its legitimacy. Hezbollah and Amal say they support the idea of the tribunal but want to discuss its mandate to ensure it cannot be used as a political tool against them.
Reuters - 2007 / 2 / 14
Crowds gathered in central Beirut on Wednesday to remember Rafik al-Hariri two years after the Lebanese former prime minister's assassination.
Saad al-Hariri, son of Rafik Hariri, said the rally would go ahead despite bus bombs that killed three people and wounded 20 in a Christian area on Tuesday.
Hariri and his ruling coalition allies called the memorial rally to show support for the government, which is resisting a campaign by the Hezbollah-led opposition to topple it.
The coalition blamed Tuesday's bombs on Syria, which it also says was behind the Feb. 14, 2005, suicide bombing that killed Rafik al-Hariri and a string of later attacks on anti-Syrian figures.
Thousands of Hariri loyalists streamed to the heavily protected Martyrs Square near his grave hours ahead of the rally.
"Not going out (to the rally) is bending to fear, giving in to what they want to do to us," his son told LBC television.
Syria denies involvement in Hariri's assassination, which triggered international pressure that forced Damascus to withdraw its troops in 2005 after 29 years in Lebanon.
Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has declared Feb. 14 a national holiday and day of mourning. Shops, schools and businesses are closed. Troops reinforced positions in downtown Beirut.
HEAVY SECURITY
Security forces erected fences and barbed wire to keep Hariri supporters separated from opposition activists who have been camped outside Siniora's office nearby since Dec. 1.
Hundreds of soldiers and police with armoured vehicles guarded Martyrs Square and diverted traffic away from the area.
Sectarian tensions have run high between pro-government Sunnis and Shi'ite Muslim supporters of opposition groups Hezbollah and Amal, both allies of Syria.
Hariri said he wanted the anniversary to be "an occasion for the Lebanese to emphasise their adherence to the truth" -- a reference to bringing his father's killers to justice. He said it was vital that a U.N.-backed tribunal try the suspects.
Hariri's allies say the opposition is acting on Syrian orders to oust the government and derail the tribunal.
The U.N. Security Council and the Beirut government have approved plans for the court. But Lebanon's pro-Syrian president has not and the plans cannot come into force until ratified by parliament which is due to come into session in mid-March.
Parliament Speaker and Amal leader Nabih Berri says the government has lost its legitimacy. Hezbollah and Amal say they support the idea of the tribunal but want to discuss its mandate to ensure it cannot be used as a political tool against them.
Who said anything about that, he's the heir to his father's empire, it is natural that he is in the front now. He is running a business and fighting to find the murderer of his father (not that we don't know who that is, but to exploit the killers). There are good politicians that are capable of doing the job; I see Saad as a man behind the curtains if things go as they should, his time will come though.
By the way, I don't get it, you have mentioned many times that he's high 24/7...on what basis do you make this claim?
By the way, I don't get it, you have mentioned many times that he's high 24/7...on what basis do you make this claim?
Assad Attacked, Hizbullah Mocked on Hariri's Assassination Anniversary
Nahar - 2007 / 2 / 14
Lebanon's majority leaders told a sea of supporters marking the second anniversary of ex-Premier Rafik Hariri's assassination in Beirut that agreeing on the international tribunal to try his murderers is the only gateway to dialogue and unity.
Hundreds of thousands of March 14 supporters streamed from north, east, central and south Lebanon to Martyrs' Square in cars, busses, and boats raising Lebanese flags and chanting slogans against Syrian President Bashar Assad.
The March 14 majority coalition accuses the Assad regime of masterminding the Hariri assassination on Feb. 14 2005 and the serial assassinations, the latest of which killed three civilians and wounded 23 in a twin bombing that targeted commuting buses northeast of Beirut on Tuesday.
Lebanese Forces Leader, Dr. Samir Geagea speech!
Lebanese Forces Leader Samir Geagea said the international tribunal, which Syria reportedly rejects, "will certainly be created."
He stressed that "whoever fights against what is right will be knocked out … The international tribunal will certainly be created."
Geagea escalated the confrontation with Hizbullah pledging that "henceforth, we will not accept any weapons outside the Lebanese army's frame of control...The Lebanese army is the resistance, the Lebanese government is the resistance, the Lebanese people is the resistance."
Geagea's words drew thundering chants of support that echoed across the whole of Beirut and reached the ears of protestors taking part in a Hizbullah-led sit in at the nearby Riad Solh Square since Dec. 1 with the declared objective of toppling Premier Fouad Saniora's majority government.
Addressing President Emile Lahoud, whose term in office was extended for three years under Syrian pressure in 2004, Geagea said: "History has settled its account with any tyrant …at the end (of your term) you will go away to history's garbage dump."
At 12:55 p.m., the exact time of the one-ton explosion that killed Hariri two years ago, an angry crowd fell silent as church bells tolled and mosque minarets blared Allah Akbar chants.
Walid Jumblat word for today's anniversary.
Progressive Socialist Party Leader Walid Jumblat stressed in his address that the year 2007 will see the creation of the international tribunal to try suspects in the Hariri murder and related crimes.
"We will not surrender to terrorism and to authoritarian parties, be they Syrian or otherwise," Jumblat said as the crowd applauded and shouted slogans attacking Assad, his regime and his Lebanese allies in the Hizbullah-led opposition.
Addressing Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah without mentioning him by name, Jumblat said: "Give the weapons to the Lebanese army and the hay to your allies."
He was referring to Hizbullah weapons confiscated last week concealed in a truck loaded with hay.
The government delivered the weapons to the Lebanese army in south Lebanon, ignoring calls by Hizbullah which claims the weapons are needed by its resistance arm.
Jumblat stressed that "from now on there will be no weapons except what is controlled by the Lebanese army."
He was obviously escalating calls to disarm Hizbullah.
Jumblat also stressed that "we adhere to international (U.N. Security Council) resolutions. All international resolutions," in reference to resolution 1559 which was adopted in the year 2004 and called for disbanding and disarming all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias, a reference to Hizbullah and pro-Syrian Palestinian factions operating in Lebanon.
Jumblat launched a vehement attack on Assad terming him "a snake .. a beast .. an Israeli begger .. a liar .. a criminal."
(You gotta love this man)
"This year will witness the creation of the international tribunal, justice will be served and the punishment will be a death sentence," Jumblat pledged.
Parliamentary Majority leader Saad Hariri, son of the slain ex-premier, delivered an emotional speech in which he thanked all those who took part in the ceremony and stressed that the Lebanese are "committed to freedom, independence, the truth, justice and the international tribunal."
"We adhere to justice to punish the murderers" who committed the Hariri killings and related crimes, he said.
He condemned recent "aggressions on peaceful neighborhoods" by masked followers of the Hizbullah-led opposition on Jan. 23.
"Despite all that, we are in the final phase of the march to create the international tribunal soon, very soon," Hariri said.
"Lebanon will be victorious and Lebanon's enemies will be defeated," he pledged.
Hariri's speech was interrupted with applause and chants attacking the Assad regime.
The majority leader concluded by stressing that "we are ready for any brave decision in favor of Lebanon … but the international tribunal is the sole gateway to any solution."
Nahar - 2007 / 2 / 14
Lebanon's majority leaders told a sea of supporters marking the second anniversary of ex-Premier Rafik Hariri's assassination in Beirut that agreeing on the international tribunal to try his murderers is the only gateway to dialogue and unity.
Hundreds of thousands of March 14 supporters streamed from north, east, central and south Lebanon to Martyrs' Square in cars, busses, and boats raising Lebanese flags and chanting slogans against Syrian President Bashar Assad.
The March 14 majority coalition accuses the Assad regime of masterminding the Hariri assassination on Feb. 14 2005 and the serial assassinations, the latest of which killed three civilians and wounded 23 in a twin bombing that targeted commuting buses northeast of Beirut on Tuesday.
Lebanese Forces Leader, Dr. Samir Geagea speech!
Lebanese Forces Leader Samir Geagea said the international tribunal, which Syria reportedly rejects, "will certainly be created."
He stressed that "whoever fights against what is right will be knocked out … The international tribunal will certainly be created."
Geagea escalated the confrontation with Hizbullah pledging that "henceforth, we will not accept any weapons outside the Lebanese army's frame of control...The Lebanese army is the resistance, the Lebanese government is the resistance, the Lebanese people is the resistance."
Geagea's words drew thundering chants of support that echoed across the whole of Beirut and reached the ears of protestors taking part in a Hizbullah-led sit in at the nearby Riad Solh Square since Dec. 1 with the declared objective of toppling Premier Fouad Saniora's majority government.
Addressing President Emile Lahoud, whose term in office was extended for three years under Syrian pressure in 2004, Geagea said: "History has settled its account with any tyrant …at the end (of your term) you will go away to history's garbage dump."
At 12:55 p.m., the exact time of the one-ton explosion that killed Hariri two years ago, an angry crowd fell silent as church bells tolled and mosque minarets blared Allah Akbar chants.
Walid Jumblat word for today's anniversary.
Progressive Socialist Party Leader Walid Jumblat stressed in his address that the year 2007 will see the creation of the international tribunal to try suspects in the Hariri murder and related crimes.
"We will not surrender to terrorism and to authoritarian parties, be they Syrian or otherwise," Jumblat said as the crowd applauded and shouted slogans attacking Assad, his regime and his Lebanese allies in the Hizbullah-led opposition.
Addressing Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah without mentioning him by name, Jumblat said: "Give the weapons to the Lebanese army and the hay to your allies."
He was referring to Hizbullah weapons confiscated last week concealed in a truck loaded with hay.
The government delivered the weapons to the Lebanese army in south Lebanon, ignoring calls by Hizbullah which claims the weapons are needed by its resistance arm.
Jumblat stressed that "from now on there will be no weapons except what is controlled by the Lebanese army."
He was obviously escalating calls to disarm Hizbullah.
Jumblat also stressed that "we adhere to international (U.N. Security Council) resolutions. All international resolutions," in reference to resolution 1559 which was adopted in the year 2004 and called for disbanding and disarming all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias, a reference to Hizbullah and pro-Syrian Palestinian factions operating in Lebanon.
Jumblat launched a vehement attack on Assad terming him "a snake .. a beast .. an Israeli begger .. a liar .. a criminal."
(You gotta love this man)"This year will witness the creation of the international tribunal, justice will be served and the punishment will be a death sentence," Jumblat pledged.
Parliamentary Majority leader Saad Hariri, son of the slain ex-premier, delivered an emotional speech in which he thanked all those who took part in the ceremony and stressed that the Lebanese are "committed to freedom, independence, the truth, justice and the international tribunal."
"We adhere to justice to punish the murderers" who committed the Hariri killings and related crimes, he said.
He condemned recent "aggressions on peaceful neighborhoods" by masked followers of the Hizbullah-led opposition on Jan. 23.
"Despite all that, we are in the final phase of the march to create the international tribunal soon, very soon," Hariri said.
"Lebanon will be victorious and Lebanon's enemies will be defeated," he pledged.
Hariri's speech was interrupted with applause and chants attacking the Assad regime.
The majority leader concluded by stressing that "we are ready for any brave decision in favor of Lebanon … but the international tribunal is the sole gateway to any solution."
Unbelievable. 
I also wonder why Hezbollah didn't abduct Syrian soldiers to release them. Israel only has 1 lebanese prisoner, a ruthless baby murderer who would have been executed in any other country. This is ultimate proof that Hezbollah has nothing to do with any "liberations". It's simply a terrorist genocide organization.
I also wonder why Hezbollah didn't abduct Syrian soldiers to release them. Israel only has 1 lebanese prisoner, a ruthless baby murderer who would have been executed in any other country. This is ultimate proof that Hezbollah has nothing to do with any "liberations". It's simply a terrorist genocide organization.
Unbelievable. I also wonder why Hezbollah didn't abduct Syrian soldiers to release them. Israel only has 1 lebanese prisoner, a ruthless baby murderer who would have been executed in any other country. This is ultimate proof that Hezbollah has nothing to do with any "liberations". It's simply a terrorist genocide organization.
I also wonder why Hezbollah didn't abduct Syrian soldiers to release them. Israel only has 1 lebanese prisoner, a ruthless baby murderer who would have been executed in any other country. This is ultimate proof that Hezbollah has nothing to do with any "liberations". It's simply a terrorist genocide organization.
Unbelievable. I also wonder why Hezbollah didn't abduct Syrian soldiers to release them. Israel only has 1 lebanese prisoner, a ruthless baby murderer who would have been executed in any other country. This is ultimate proof that Hezbollah has nothing to do with any "liberations". It's simply a terrorist genocide organization.
I also wonder why Hezbollah didn't abduct Syrian soldiers to release them. Israel only has 1 lebanese prisoner, a ruthless baby murderer who would have been executed in any other country. This is ultimate proof that Hezbollah has nothing to do with any "liberations". It's simply a terrorist genocide organization.
I dont know wht Israel your talking about, cuz the one i know has got more than 1 lebanese in its prisons.
Like i said the only 1 lebanese prisoner I'm aware of is the baby murderer Samir Quntar, the rest is probably lies by Hezbollah. Please don't talk about ignorance, me and Rab here are probably the only ones who actually know what's going on in this region, definitely not you or Rebel. Lecture me about Australian prisoners or "under the rubble" prisoners.
Believe it, he even called him "a monkey that not even nature would recognize him".
If I was in his place, I would have probably called him names much more than that.
After-all a terrorist like Bashar Assad shouldn't be called any lower than the names he called him. History will always remmber him as a killer and a terrorist just like other leaders who went down at the end.
If I was in his place, I would have probably called him names much more than that.
After-all a terrorist like Bashar Assad shouldn't be called any lower than the names he called him. History will always remmber him as a killer and a terrorist just like other leaders who went down at the end.
Sameer JaeJae Is a person I respect, he is a wise man and maybe he is not great in politics, maybe he is a murderer and a thief, but he is a man, and he has no fear to speak his mind, now, and even when Syrians were in Lebanon, he is a wise man, Hakeem 
Saad Hariri is a kid, he is not aware of what is going on around, he is no leader, and can't be one, maybe his Elder brother should took that role?
Jounblat? he is like a monkey, jumping from here to there, he is more, like a show-business-man.. he praises the Asad family first, the other day he insults, he says Asad family had nothing to do with his father's murder, now he says they are responsible, he is just showing himself now since the Syrians are out, and his speech are like kids, you can say your word in a respected way and you can say the same exact things like JaeJae, but he prefers in low class, he is amusing thou :eyebrows:
Saad Hariri is a kid, he is not aware of what is going on around, he is no leader, and can't be one, maybe his Elder brother should took that role?
Jounblat? he is like a monkey, jumping from here to there, he is more, like a show-business-man.. he praises the Asad family first, the other day he insults, he says Asad family had nothing to do with his father's murder, now he says they are responsible, he is just showing himself now since the Syrians are out, and his speech are like kids, you can say your word in a respected way and you can say the same exact things like JaeJae, but he prefers in low class, he is amusing thou :eyebrows: