The Lebanese political crisis!!! (24 Viewers)

Jul 23, 2006
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I think you know what I mean.

I know the hatred that most Palestinians got towards Rafik Hariri, but the day a man like him will step in Palestinian land will be the day I'll probably salut you.
i hate him from a palestinian point of view
but when u take a lebanese point of view, he was a good leader who managed to rebuild the country from scratch...
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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i hate him from a palestinian point of view
but when u take a lebanese point of view, he was a good leader who managed to rebuild the country from scratch...
I wonder why you hate him. I also wonder If you ever followed his political career.

Maybe he shouldn't have defended the "Qadeyye l Falasteneye"....After-all he's no good man eh??

I wonder how Palestinians would like someone....thats probably the things someone should do to be liked by Palestinians...

1- Always make a war with Israel

2- Accept whatever their refugees do IN YOUR COUNTRY

3- Always defend them through media and press

4- Never think of making Peace with Israel, or you'll be hated in their books.

and so on.....


TBH, I don't care what Palestinians, Syrians or even Zimbabwe think of Rafik Hariri, in our eyes, (in the Lebanese eyes) he'll always be a hero like I said before. He'll never be forgotten. Atleast not in my kids generation in the future.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Thats lame. But I can't blame you, Palestine never had such a person like Rafik Hariri with no disrespect. So thats why i can't blame you.
I don't hate him, but as a Lebanese politician said (Weaam Wahhab): "Enough with the mourning period that Future Tv wants us to live...Much more respected people were killed, and nobody gives them any importance...)

George Hawi, for example...

About Palestinians not having somebody like Hariri, hahahahahaha

hahahahahahaha

I'm proud we had nobody whose best characteristic was bribery...
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
TBH, I don't care what Palestinians, Syrians or even Zimbabwe think of Rafik Hariri, in our eyes, (in the Lebanese eyes) he'll always be a hero like I said before. He'll never be forgotten. Atleast not in my kids generation in the future.
Ayri bi fist wujjak (that's hard Halabi way :D)

I am thinking good things about Hariri :faq1:
 
Jul 23, 2006
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I wonder why you hate him. I also wonder If you ever followed his political career.

Maybe he shouldn't have defended the "Qadeyye l Falasteneye"....After-all he's no good man eh??

I wonder how Palestinians would like someone....thats probably the things someone should do to be liked by Palestinians...

1- Always make a war with Israel

2- Accept whatever their refugees do IN YOUR COUNTRY

3- Always defend them through media and press

4- Never think of making Peace with Israel, or you'll be hated in their books.

and so on.....


TBH, I don't care what Palestinians, Syrians or even Zimbabwe think of Rafik Hariri, in our eyes, (in the Lebanese eyes) he'll always be a hero like I said before. He'll never be forgotten. Atleast not in my kids generation in the future.
a good number of lebanese ppl hate Hariri
some still do hate him, while some others are faking their love for him

not all lebanese loved him, n u know that as well

nyways im not lebanese so i'll end the discussion here(unless someone involves palestine in the conflict)
 
Oct 3, 2004
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I don't hate him, but as a Lebanese politician said (Weaam Wahhab): "Enough with the mourning period that Future Tv wants us to live...Much more respected people were killed, and nobody gives them any importance...)

George Hawi, for example...

About Palestinians not having somebody like Hariri, hahahahahaha

hahahahahahaha

I'm proud we had nobody whose best characteristic was bribery...
That's a bit too much man. Rafic Hariri's plans were very long term. We were probably meant to suffer for a very long time, while our children would've reaped the benefits of a modern Lebanon with it's strong infrastructure and numerous benefits.

This was the plan in theory. Otherwise, how else can you explain this huge debt?

I for one, have always respected Rafic Hariri's vision for Lebanon's future, and for it's reemergence after the war. He was all we had, his money, connections, and reputation. He was even on good terms with Hezballah before his murder.

Someone feared his rise to power in Lebanon too much, that ended up in his tragic demise.

That said, Hariri does have his negatives...unfortunately his successors are even worse.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
That's a bit too much man. Rafic Hariri's plans were very long term. We were probably meant to suffer for a very long time, while our children would've reaped the benefits of a modern Lebanon with it's strong infrastructure and numerous benefits.

This was the plan in theory. Otherwise, how else can you explain this huge debt?

I for one, have always respected Rafic Hariri's vision for Lebanon's future, and for it's reemergence after the war. He was all we had, his money, connections, and reputation. He was even on good terms with Hezballah before his murder.

Someone feared his rise to power in Lebanon too much, that ended up in his tragic demise.

That said, Hariri does have his negatives...unfortunately his successors are even worse.
well said Rhiziod!!
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
That's a bit too much man. Rafic Hariri's plans were very long term. We were probably meant to suffer for a very long time, while our children would've reaped the benefits of a modern Lebanon with it's strong infrastructure and numerous benefits.

This was the plan in theory. Otherwise, how else can you explain this huge debt?

I for one, have always respected Rafic Hariri's vision for Lebanon's future, and for it's reemergence after the war. He was all we had, his money, connections, and reputation. He was even on good terms with Hezballah before his murder.

Someone feared his rise to power in Lebanon too much, that ended up in his tragic demise.

That said, Hariri does have his negatives...unfortunately his successors are even worse.
Rhizoid,

As I said above, I don't hate him, but I hate the fact that he is imaged as an angel...

He was a main reason for rebuilding Lebanon, I agree, but wasn't he the main ally for Syria for a long time??

Wasn't he getting his orders from Al-Asad & King Fahad??

I hate the exaggerating for his role in Lebanon...He was a businessman...Nothing more or less...
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
I don't hate him, but as a Lebanese politician said (Weaam Wahhab): "Enough with the mourning period that Future Tv wants us to live...Much more respected people were killed, and nobody gives them any importance...)
Who is Weaam Wahab? You mean the guy who is employed to Bashar Al Assad?

What do you mean by us? As far as I'm concern Future Tv is Lebanese and not palestinian. Yes, true, much more people were killed, but I doubt any one was more respected than Hariri. Could be at the same level, (Bachir, Gebran, Pierre etc)


About Palestinians not having somebody like Hariri, hahahahahaha
You can laugh as much as you want, It's not like you're proving anything. I'll stick to my point and yes you never had such a man/person like Rafik Hariri, and to prove my point, take a look at your country, since 1948 you haven't manage to build a country nor make any forward step with the Israeli's.

I'm proud we had nobody whose best characteristic was bribery...
hehe, Fine.... his best charachteristic was bribery, his best charachteristic was rebuilding our country, his best charachteristic sending over 35,000 student abroad, most of them from She'iit, he's also charachteristic for building a strong relations between the Muslim and Christian...

He was an Evil and a thief....But let me tell you one thing as a Lebanese, If being a thief will turn me into a hero, then I ask god to turn me into a thief. If being a thief will turn this country and develop It, then I ask god to turn me into a thief. and so on......

You can keep on throwing stones, while we'll continue on working on rebuilding our country, your dream will never happen, the likes of you are wishing a civil war to re-take a place in our country........KEEP DREAMING!!!!
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Ayri bi fist wujjak (that's hard Halabi way :D)

I am thinking good things about Hariri :faq1:
Snoop,

Even Nasrallah can't deny what a man Rafik Hariri was, I'm not waiting someone like this guy to describe me who Hariri is.

The guy loved all the other sects probably more than Sunni. He was a man of his word. Media accused him lot of things(thanks to Syria secret service) because they feared him...and I think you know that as you lived in Lebanon.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
He was a main reason for rebuilding Lebanon, I agree, but wasn't he the main ally for Syria for a long time??

Wasn't he getting his orders from Al-Asad & King Fahad??
Just like Sanyoura, Hariri wanted to keep good relations with everyone. Yes even with the syrians, he never took any orders for Al Asad and King Fahed, I don't think he would have been killed was he taking orders, smarty. I don't think 1559 would have also happened were he taking orders from Syria. So get over It ffs and watch your Abu Mazen instead of criticizing a man you know nothing about.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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a good number of lebanese ppl hate Hariri
some still do hate him, while some others are faking their love for him

not all lebanese loved him, n u know that as well
The ones that hate him or dislike him are counted, Hezbollah supporters and Berre and most of paties in Lebanon respected Hariri.

Of course you want have fans all over admiring Del Piero, you want find Che Guevara fans all over, you wont and you wont....There's no one loved 100%. But talking in general he was a man of the country.
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
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Watch this, then tell me who is fooling himself....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QKq38COoTG8&mode=related&search=

Sorry, Jacques for going off-topic alittle, but I had to reply to Andy...
I watched 2 minutes of it, and easily came to the realization that this guy is a wack-job...

I take no sides in the Israeli-Palestinian situation (I hope the land can be shared tbh), please give me some opinions of some people who arent mentally retarded, and I will gladly listen

ReBel said:
You call them Terrorists, we call them Freedom Fighters, they react to your Murdering Politics. We have had enough of the same Excuse "Terrorists, Terrorism". Anyone that opposes your politics is a terrorist or a communist, wake up people...
sure, Bin Laden is REALLY a freedom fighter....planning his attacks on the USA from his hideout in Pakistan/Afghanistan in the name of "freedom":disagree:
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Relax, my dear...

Ok, he was an angel...
I'm not waiting your report.

Lets make It clear.....do me a favor and learn some stuff before you accuse someone. Sure you got brains to think. You don't see me around criticizing some palestinian leaders or your people on some stuff I have no clue about... you ever saw me doing that? I'll answer that, NO.


Even Hasan Nasrallah the one I criticize him, I wouldn't accept a foreigner insulting him or criticizing him when he doesn't know what he's talking about. You seem to care for our situation much more than palestine situation. thats not a good thing.


I'm not in a mood to convince you who Rafik Hariri is, I just said what I had to say, for us(Lebanese) he's is someone we loved and respect him even if he's under the sand. So try to respect our feelings before calling him names, and before letting people brain wash your head.


You can surely criticize our politican as no one can stop you from that, but do It in a right way, you call name=you're looking for a trouble...there's no other reason for that.

I respect your case, try to respect the Lebanese case, will you?
 

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