The Lebanese political crisis!!! (31 Viewers)

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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I can't comment much on that, since I am in non-safe place, I don't want uncle Lou to pay a visit to me :D

But, yesterday's incident was very ugly, he might be some terrorist thou, I never know, I recorded it on a video btw (baddon ynikou rabbi) :D
:rofl:

To prove that you're not coward, send it to me by email...

If I were you, I would never send it though:D
 

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JCK

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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  • Thread Starter #622
    It's not about me...

    I hate the idea of denying that there are LEBANESE people who want the war to resume...

    Some Palestinians & syrians may take part in that, but the main players in the Lebanese grounds are Lebanese. NO??
    The ONLY Lebanese people who want the war to resume are Hasan Nasralla zabri and Michel Aoun bokhsh teeze.
     
    Oct 3, 2004
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    Nasrallah and Aoun are the reasons that this country hasn't turned into a civil war. It's because of I-am-stoned-24/7-Saad Hariri, and Walid the Jackass Jounblatt's antics that could jeoporadize this country.

    Leb Forces can dream of having their piece of sh*t sorry excuse of a zaeem as president.

    Aoun will expose the March 14 gangsters soon, and then you will know the truth.
     
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    JCK

    JCK

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    JCK
    May 11, 2004
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    Nasrallah and Aoun are the reasons that this country hasn't turned into a civil war. It's because of I-am-stoned-24/7-Saad Hariri, and Walid the Jackass Jounblatt's antics that could jeoporadize this country.

    Leb Forces can dream of having their piece of sh*t sorry excuse of a zaeem as president.

    Aoun will expose the March 14 gangsters soon, and then you will know the truth.
    :howler: I can't believe how blind people have become.




    Here's some food for thought [video=google;8326734789464462895]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8326734789464462895&q=Zarka&hl=en[/video]
     

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
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    Dec 16, 2003
    72,692
    Nasrallah and Aoun are the reasons that this country hasn't turned into a civil war. It's because of I-am-stoned-24/7-Saad Hariri, and Walid the Jackass Jounblatt's antics that could jeoporadize this country.

    Leb Forces can dream of having their piece of sh*t sorry excuse of a zaeem as president.

    Aoun will expose the March 14 gangsters soon, and then you will know the truth.

    Did you watch Samir Geagea owning Aoun today? He brought every single proof with him and replied on Aoun's accusation. Unlike Aoun, he accused people with no documents. If you didn't watch Hakeem today, I really recommend you to watch it.

    Simply the smartest politician in Lebanon. Without a doubt.


    About Aoun, you'll soon discover or notice the divorce paper between Hasan Nasrallah and Aoun, Nasrallah is by mile ahead of Aoun when It comes to tactics and being smart. He knows how Aoun thinks, and he knows Aoun is using him for the moment. But time will prove anyway.
     

    Zé Tahir

    JhoolayLaaaal!
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    Dec 10, 2004
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    Lebanon clashes fuel civil war fears
    By Jim Muir
    BBC News, Beirut


    The Lebanese capital Beirut is largely quiet and people are going about their business again, after fierce clashes on the southern edge of the city on Thursday between Shia opponents and Sunni supporters of the government.

    But tensions remain high, after scenes which stirred memories of the sectarian and factional strife which marked 15 years of civil war in the 1970s and 80s, and fears that there might be a recurrence.

    There has been no sign of a break in the deadlock between the opposition, led by Hezbollah, and the Western-backed, anti-Syrian government in Beirut.

    Nobody seems to know where events will now lead.

    All sides are agreed on one thing: that the current situation is extremely explosive, and that there is a very real danger of the country sliding back into a complex civil war that would be very hard to stop.

    That realisation was probably the biggest factor persuading the opposition, driven by Hezbollah and its Shia allies - but including significant Christian and some less credible Sunni factions - to end the contentious general strike on Tuesday, and to call their supporters off the streets of Beirut on Thursday.

    It also prompted an unusual flurry of contacts between Saudi Arabia, which is influential with Lebanon's Sunnis, and Iran, which backs Hezbollah and is also allied to Syria.

    But all this has not yet produced any sign of movement towards what is desperately needed - some serious reconciliation talks, with give and take on both sides.

    Hezbollah and its allies still insist on enough seats in government to give them veto power, and on early general elections, which they are convinced would do away with a government they regard as too close to America and the West.

    The government itself, fresh from winning nearly $8bn (£4bn) of largely Western aid pledges at this week's Paris conference, has so far shown no sign of giving way.

    Despite the evident dangers, many Lebanese analysts have concluded that there is little chance of the Lebanese themselves coming to terms unless their outside patrons reach an understanding and encourage them to do so.

    Many see the struggle in terms of the global standoff between the United States and Iran.

    The Iranians do seem keen to avoid a Sunni-Shia sectarian flare-up in Lebanon.

    But they and their Syrian allies also want to redress the strategic balance.

    'Trial of strength'


    The current anti-Syrian government in Beirut was formed after the Syrians had been pressured into staging a humiliating withdrawal of their forces from Lebanon two years ago, when regional conditions were very different.

    Now, the Americans are seen to be floundering in Iraq, and their Israeli allies are perceived to have failed in their effort to destroy Hezbollah in Lebanon last July and August.

    Lebanese sources say that behind the scenes, Syria, which retains many instruments of influence in Lebanon, is adamant that the balance of power must also change in Beirut, while the Americans are equally insistent that it must not.

    "The war is on," said one Lebanese analyst.

    "It is a trial of strength between the outside actors involved in Lebanon. The clashes on the ground on Thursday got out of control - but which side is going to agree to pull back?"

    "Syria is looking for nothing short of total surrender in both the political and security arenas," he added.

    Syrian assets in Lebanon include very strong ties with the two factions which dominate Shia politics - Hezbollah and its mainstream ally, Amal, headed by Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri.

    The Shia are the largest of Lebanon's many sects.

    Syria was also instrumental in reconstructing the Lebanese Army and security forces after the civil war, and retains strong influence there too, as well as among Christian, Sunni and Alawite factions in North Lebanon.

    'Playing with fire'

    All this Syrian clout is largely invisible, but very definite.

    But some analysts believe Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah has painted himself into a corner, embarking on a course that will be hard to pursue without triggering the sectarian civil war he insists he will not be drawn into.

    "Nasrallah is playing with fire," said one observer.

    "He has pitched expectations among his supporters so high, that it will be hard for him to back off."

    If a solution requires a strategic understanding between the US on the one hand and Iran and Syria on the other, it will clearly be a long time coming.

    In the wake of the Israeli invasion in 1982, America pulled its own forces out of Lebanon in 1983 and effectively left the country to Syrian influence until 2004.

    But times have changed.

    Washington under George W Bush now sees Lebanon, like Iraq and Palestine, as one of the battlefields in the black-and-white war against "terror", with a perceived need to bolster "moderates" so they can isolate and defeat "the extremists".

    So Lebanon is left trapped in a highly dangerous limbo, hostage to the next flare-up on the ground, which could see the tinderbox explode into the comprehensive civil strife that now threatens to engulf the country with incalculable consequences.
     

    Muha

    The Head Physio
    Feb 25, 2004
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    And now I reply :p

    No the US has been juggling governments in the region forever, Syria is always being Syria, Iraq always been Iraq, everybody is the same....Both, Syria and Iraq, were allies of the US! Now that these regimes served their purposes, now they are being dropped ;)

    The same could be said for the Saudi, Egyptian, and Jordan regimes.

    Iraq did change its mentality during its period of alliance with the US.. Saddam could've been safe and running until now if he hadn't invaded Kuwait and made heaps of enemies, nor sprayed his ppl with chemicals and made even more enemies.. The same applies for Syria who has changed alot since Hafeth Al asad has died.. The US's policy is to get the best out of everyone, and make every country suit its agenda in the middle east.. Thats why they have been asking for constitutional reforms in Egypt, Jordan, and the GCC, cuz they belive that as long as there is no democracy in the middle east, terrorists will just keep increasing in numbers, and their main enemies will always be the US (the main provider and protecter of their non constitutional arab regimes)..

    But that doesnt mean that the US would want to lose allies such as Husny Mubarak and King Abdulla, in such critical time of the middle east's history.. e.g. The US understands that Al Ekhwan al muslemeen (The Muslim Brothers Party) has a very big chance of winning if presedintial elecetions were to be held in Egypt soon.. and guess wht, the US doesnt want another islamic regime in the region, simply cuz americans have islamophobia.. Thats why i dont think the US is done with the likes of Husny, King Abdullah of Saudi, nor Abdulla of Jordan yet
     

    Vinman

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    Jul 16, 2002
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    Iraq did change its mentality during its period of alliance with the US.. Saddam could've been safe and running until now if he hadn't invaded Kuwait and made heaps of enemies, nor sprayed his ppl with chemicals and made even more enemies.. The same applies for Syria who has changed alot since Hafeth Al asad has died.. The US's policy is to get the best out of everyone, and make every country suit its agenda in the middle east.. Thats why they have been asking for constitutional reforms in Egypt, Jordan, and the GCC, cuz they belive that as long as there is no democracy in the middle east, terrorists will just keep increasing in numbers, and their main enemies will always be the US (the main provider and protecter of their non constitutional arab regimes)..

    But that doesnt mean that the US would want to lose allies such as Husny Mubarak and King Abdulla, in such critical time of the middle east's history.. e.g. The US understands that Al Ekhwan al muslemeen (The Muslim Brothers Party) has a very big chance of winning if presedintial elecetions were to be held in Egypt soon.. and guess wht, the US doesnt want another islamic regime in the region, simply cuz americans have islamophobia.. Thats why i dont think the US is done with the likes of Husny, King Abdullah of Saudi, nor Abdulla of Jordan yet

    hmmm...

    I wonder why
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
    116,244
    I don't have Islamophobia or whatever the fuck that shit is. My advanced economics professor is from KSA and he's a good guy... I only dislike those imbeciles who try to justify what groups such as Al Qaeda and Hamas are doing because they're just a bunch of idiots. The more intelligent citizens in America can see the difference... so don't try to generalize like some sort of suicide bomber from the middle east... the world has had enough of your loathsome type.
     
    Jul 23, 2006
    4,300
    Iraq did change its mentality during its period of alliance with the US.. Saddam could've been safe and running until now if he hadn't invaded Kuwait and made heaps of enemies, nor sprayed his ppl with chemicals and made even more enemies.. The same applies for Syria who has changed alot since Hafeth Al asad has died.. The US's policy is to get the best out of everyone, and make every country suit its agenda in the middle east.. Thats why they have been asking for constitutional reforms in Egypt, Jordan, and the GCC, cuz they belive that as long as there is no democracy in the middle east, terrorists will just keep increasing in numbers, and their main enemies will always be the US (the main provider and protecter of their non constitutional arab regimes)..

    But that doesnt mean that the US would want to lose allies such as Husny Mubarak and King Abdulla, in such critical time of the middle east's history.. e.g. The US understands that Al Ekhwan al muslemeen (The Muslim Brothers Party) has a very big chance of winning if presedintial elecetions were to be held in Egypt soon.. and guess wht, the US doesnt want another islamic regime in the region, simply cuz americans have islamophobia.. Thats why i dont think the US is done with the likes of Husny, King Abdullah of Saudi, nor Abdulla of Jordan yet
    The US's policy is to get the best out of everyone for their benefit
     

    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
    22,871
    I don't have Islamophobia or whatever the fuck that shit is. My advanced economics professor is from KSA and he's a good guy... I only dislike those imbeciles who try to justify what groups such as Al Qaeda and Hamas are doing because they're just a bunch of idiots. The more intelligent citizens in America can see the difference... so don't try to generalize like some sort of suicide bomber from the middle east... the world has had enough of your loathsome type.
    You call them Terrorists, we call them Freedom Fighters, they react to your Murdering Politics. We have had enough of the same Excuse "Terrorists, Terrorism". Anyone that opposes your politics is a terrorist or a communist, wake up people...
     
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    JCK

    JCK

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    May 11, 2004
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    This is the video of what Snoop mentioned in an earlier post.

    Future TV were showing rioters throwing rocks, claiming that they were opposition, when one of them blatantly curses Sayid Hassan Nasralla.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rt8AR7ApU7w

    Immediately they cut the broadcast.

    These are the lies the Future Movement are promoting you.
    Amazing video, did you upload it yourself? Because neither the sound nor the picture is clear enough for one to understand anything. Exactly like Nasrallalzebb's speeches and plans.
     

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