But Israel don't want peace, they've had specific aims and they are achieving them.
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Weren't you banned for a week?
Stop involving Israel in this! You want to talk about Hizballah and Lebanon? Then talk about it. Otherwise stop complaining about ppl talking off topic!
And just for the record: Israel doesn't wan't to control Lebanon, Israel do want peace with its neighbors but as long as there're some fanatics who just want to exterminate Israel rule the show... well, it just wont be possible.
Interesting: Nasrallah calls for death of Israel, says "Israel weaker than the spiderwebs" (the idiot doesn't even know spiderweb is considered to be one of the strongest materials, some companies even try to make bulletproof wests from this material), calls for another war with Israel and after that you say "But Israel doesn't wan't peace". Right, it's Israel who doesn't want peace... And Nasrallah shoul receive the Nobel prize for peace...
Stop involving Israel in this! You want to talk about Hizballah and Lebanon? Then talk about it. Otherwise stop complaining about ppl talking off topic!
And just for the record: Israel doesn't wan't to control Lebanon, Israel do want peace with its neighbors but as long as there're some fanatics who just want to exterminate Israel rule the show... well, it just wont be possible.
Interesting: Nasrallah calls for death of Israel, says "Israel weaker than the spiderwebs" (the idiot doesn't even know spiderweb is considered to be one of the strongest materials, some companies even try to make bulletproof wests from this material), calls for another war with Israel and after that you say "But Israel doesn't wan't peace". Right, it's Israel who doesn't want peace... And Nasrallah shoul receive the Nobel prize for peace...
What negotiations do you mean? It is pretty obvious that they don't want peace, the most recent evidence is the last war against Lebanon. I can't imagine that Israel had intended to have peace with Lebanon then they suddenly declared a war on Lebanon for just two or three kidnapped Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah is responsible for kidnapping the soldiers and it is the one that is fighting Israel, so what guilt did the whole Lebanese nation commit to face such a war? Israel don't want peace.
Israel wants to get rid of Hezballa, maybe they had an ugly attempt in the summer but I am sure if we take the weapons from Hezballa and sign a peace treaty with Israel, we would benefit very much from it. At least much more than what we are getting from Nasralla and his speeches. Palestinians and Syrians may not benefit from a Lebanese treaty with Israel, but frankly, I don't give a toss.
If I were Lebanese, I might have had the same point of view as yours. And I don't blame you, undeniably, we all want peace. Even though, I have a different ideology (before criticising me, and of course you have all the right to do, I know that this Nationalism ideology aroused by Abdel Naser is now an old one but excuse me I still proudly believe in it).
In my opinion, I consider the Arabian Nations as one nation that should live together, dream together, prosper together and fight together.
In fact, Lebanon has the right to live in peace with its neighbour and the Palestinians have the right to dream of their own country. But we must not forget the fact that, despite our massive population and our huge land, we are the weak side and the weak side can't decide but the strong side is the one who puts the rules and the weak is the one who applies them.
In my opinion, I consider the Arabian Nations as one nation that should live together, dream together, prosper together and fight together.
In fact, Lebanon has the right to live in peace with its neighbour and the Palestinians have the right to dream of their own country. But we must not forget the fact that, despite our massive population and our huge land, we are the weak side and the weak side can't decide but the strong side is the one who puts the rules and the weak is the one who applies them.
Yeah, Lebanon and Palestine have the right to live in peace ,but not with Israel. Why don't the Israelis just simply leave ang go away from the land they have been trying to take for over than 50 years. It is not your land. It is simply and Arabian Palestinian land. Israelis just have to leave Palestine to where they came from, Europe,America, i dont no where, but they must not live in a land that isnt theirs.
I'm just going to ask everyone here to keep it cool. I'm shocked that I haven't had to shut this thread yet. Keep it that way.
It's a little more complicated than that. Swag parodied the whole concept of nationhood and historical land ownership delightfully on this forum once. He said:
Well, the Israelis think they have some historical right to the land (heck - God himself granted them the lease), and now they're there for about a lifetime, there are many people from Israel for whom it is home - the place they were born, the place they grew up and the place they live, work, raise a family. For those people, it is their country, their only country.
If you refuse to look at it that way, refuse to recognise them as people, then please don't ask that they do it for you.
I'm going to ask that the entire Israel thing just disappear from this thread - it's always inflammatory - and we get back to discussing the Lebanon and Hezballa.
It's a little more complicated than that. Swag parodied the whole concept of nationhood and historical land ownership delightfully on this forum once. He said:
Well, the Israelis think they have some historical right to the land (heck - God himself granted them the lease), and now they're there for about a lifetime, there are many people from Israel for whom it is home - the place they were born, the place they grew up and the place they live, work, raise a family. For those people, it is their country, their only country.
If you refuse to look at it that way, refuse to recognise them as people, then please don't ask that they do it for you.
I'm going to ask that the entire Israel thing just disappear from this thread - it's always inflammatory - and we get back to discussing the Lebanon and Hezballa.
