The...I want this player to Juve thread (28 Viewers)

[Badass J Elkann]

i dont know about you guys, but like dom im quite a fan of papa waigo from fiorentina, he would be a cheaper option on both the transfer fee and wage demand front, fairly similar playing characteristics to camo.

what you think?

 

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[v1rtu4l]

Neddy is fit but has been inconsistent.

did you even once watch schweinsteiger for bayern lately ?
his form is no better ... but the difference is nedved had his few games for us this season where he was decisive ...

schweinsteiger did not ... his poor form is easy to see when you see that he did not feature in the first eleven all the time recently despite bayern not having any attacking player other then ribeiry in the midfield ... sometimes some ottl or whatever gets chosen over him on his position.

We aren't spending on a lottery, he is free.

didn't you know that the transfer fee is often the smallest part of what you pay for a player ? i did not only once state, that he was fine if he only got a squad player wage (<3m €/year)...

if you look at what we give giovinco and his wages it is clear to see that you have to earn yourself the wage in juve and until schweinsteiger is at least serie a proven he should not earn as much as our first eleven.

schweinsteiger is 24, so he is 3 years older than giovinco but not more proven on the club-level than giovinco...

He has talent and u have no way of knowing what he would be capable of if he came.

yeah, in the backyard of my neighbourhood there are many kids that have talent ... talent is not quality and bayern is a smaller club then juve, so if his dread form has something to do with pressure, than he will only get worse.

schweinsteiger is lucky he is with bayern because he gets a "domestic" bonus.
bayern is more likely to give him many chances to play and prove his worth than a foreign club like juve. here with us he would probably get a playing chance every tenth game for half an hour and so the pressure would even be greater... you can bet your ass that giovinco would have more chances to play than schweini just because he is italian and a fan favourite and you do know how many chances giovinco got, do you ?

This is neddys last season, so yes he would be a starter rather quickly.

but you did read what ranieri said why we did NOT buy a replacement for nedved, didn't you ?

 

[Hust]

did you even once watch schweinsteiger for bayern lately ?
his form is no better ... but the difference is nedved had his few games for us this season where he was decisive ...

schweinsteiger did not ... his poor form is easy to see when you see that he did not feature in the first eleven all the time recently despite bayern not having any attacking player other then ribeiry in the midfield ... sometimes some ottl or whatever gets chosen over him on his position.



didn't you know that the transfer fee is often the smallest part of what you pay for a player ? i did not only once state, that he was fine if he only got a squad player wage (<3m €/year)...

if you look at what we give giovinco and his wages it is clear to see that you have to earn yourself the wage in juve and until schweinsteiger is at least serie a proven he should not earn as much as our first eleven.

schweinsteiger is 24, so he is 3 years older than giovinco but not more proven on the club-level than giovinco...



yeah, in the backyard of my neighbourhood there are many kids that have talent ... talent is not quality and bayern is a smaller club then juve, so if his dread form has something to do with pressure, than he will only get worse.

schweinsteiger is lucky he is with bayern because he gets a "domestic" bonus.
bayern is more likely to give him many chances to play and prove his worth than a foreign club like juve. here with us he would probably get a playing chance every tenth game for half an hour and so the pressure would even be greater... you can bet your ass that giovinco would have more chances to play than schweini just because he is italian and a fan favourite and you do know how many chances giovinco got, do you ?


but you did read what ranieri said why we did NOT buy a replacement for nedved, didn't you ?

Then u would have also read that CR said it wasn't certain how gio will be used in the future. And it doesn't seem like we are going to know. So how can u sit there and say that schweiny can't handle the pressue of a club but on the other hand excels well for the mannschaft?? Its weird that a player is so good for a national team but average for a club? Pressure is obviously not the question. To me its more like faith in from the club/coach. Maybe he doesn't click well in that system or with those players, I don't know maybe I should ask u, u seem to be the expert on player potential especially from the bundesliga...

He won't drain our wages anymore than poulsen or amauri and to me he would bring more in terms of creativity to we are severely lacking and for free. Your not the only critic of him in germany for sure but there are loads of people that I know from germany that think he is an excellent talent. All u seem to have on this guy dude is that u think he is ugly and by process of some f"ed up equation that equals no skill...just because a player has lackluster moments doesn't mean he is going to fail. Look at tiago everyone hated him last year and we are all pissed now that he is hurt and he was starting to prove his critics wrong but according to u he isn't as bad looking as ur "pig" hence he is a better player than schweiny

 

[v1rtu4l]

Then u would have also read that CR said it wasn't certain how gio will be used in the future. And it doesn't seem like we are going to know. So how can u sit there and say that schweiny can't handle the pressue of a club but on the other hand excels well for the mannschaft?? Its weird that a player is so good for a national team but average for a club? Pressure is obviously not the question. To me its more like faith in from the club/coach. Maybe he doesn't click well in that system or with those players, I don't know maybe I should ask u, u seem to be the expert on player potential especially from the bundesliga...

there is exactly one reason why he does play well for the national team of germany. they have no choice but to play him, because there the situation is even more thin. there is no good crop of players that could play "on the wing".
bernd schneider is not playing for the national team anymore so there is virtually no one to compete with him for a spot. it is naturall that jogi löw has confidence in him. he has to have, because schweinsteiger is the one half decent player on that position.

He won't drain our wages anymore than poulsen or amauri and to me he would bring more in terms of creativity to we are severely lacking and for free.

were does he create anything by his own ?
please show my one video where he does invent something like a playmaker or something ... this dude has to be told what to do. other than that he does not know what to do with the ball (either than shoot on goal).

Your not the only critic of him in germany for sure but there are loads of people that I know from germany that think he is an excellent talent.

we already have one talent but talent does not equal quality. a lot of players in the bundesliga are talents, but they fuck up on the big stage.

just look at özil who switched from schalke to werder. he was thought to be diegos successor if he leaves ... özil, besides having great technical qualities just fucks up when he plays and does nothing great. and even özil was a better talent then schweinsteiger. both are talents that do not show something in the league and let's be honest. someone that can not cut it in the bundesliga will most probably not do anything in serie a.

All u seem to have on this guy dude is that u think he is ugly and by process of some f"ed up equation that equals no skill...

where did i write that he has no skill ? he knows how to shoot, he can cross (but only with his right foot) and is a poorer passer than tiago.

having skills does not mean being creative ! if you want a creative player you wont go for schweinsteiger

just because a player has lackluster moments doesn't mean he is going to fail. Look at tiago everyone hated him last year and we are all pissed now that he is hurt and he was starting to prove his critics wrong but according to u he isn't as bad looking as ur "pig" hence he is a better player than schweiny

so you want to get a player with the view of getting a decent performance one year after signing him ? great ! thats juve material

 

[Ahmed]

despite the reasons for his selection, he plays well for Germany, right? he is a factor for them in the big matches and usually comes up trumps...those are clear indications that he is a good player

 

[Ibrahimovic9]

I never seen him play for Bayern but for Germany, he is pretty good. Ya got me doubting him right now though.

 

[Hust]

The first one is for germany and the second bayern. There are loads more with his highlights. Maybe they were all lucky goals?

I am tired of reading all your lengthy points, you take too long to get to the point. These videos should be enough for my arguement. As for as the tiago arguement, the pressure got to him the first year, now he was beginning to get settled. You can not predict failure from anyone, how can you be so certain schweiny will fail? he seems to do well under national team pressure as you can see from the videos, i highly doubt he will fail under club pressure. He is no kid anymore.

As far as him only using his right foot as you mentioned, there are a few goals that he scored very difficult shots with a left foot, I am certain he can cross with his left if he can score with it. Why dont you do us all a favor and find US videos were he is so horrible as you describe, that might strengthen your argument.

 

[Salvo]

Juve, a shortcut to "baby" Mattioni

10:23 del 29 novembre

Stadio torino

Felipe Mattioni has not yet reached the heights of Carlitos Tevez and Javier Mascherano’s football, but for some days now he shares the curious status of player belonging to a private individual. The business belongs to Mino Raiola, agent of Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Pavel Nedved and others.

But the difference is fundememtal: in their case Raiola is like the classic agent, in Mattioni’s case he is the legitimate owner of his registration. Raiola himself confirms the rumor: 'It is true, I bought Mattioni dal Gremio through my fund. At this point I will settle the transfer of the player in Europe within the next few weeks, even if, as there is still nothing defined, I prefer to stay here. I can only confirm that the player is liked by Juventus, as in many other Italian and non Italian clubs".

Raiola does not want to talk about money, but reliable sources say around 2.5 million euros was the price paid for Gremio. That means that compared to the 6 that Juve had heard requested from the club of Porto Alegre, there is a considerable operating margin.

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?? does any 1 no this kid?

 

[Albertmare]

?? does any 1 no this kid?

He's Miles older than you for calling him Kid

 

[vimo]

One last thing and then i'll quit this schweinsteiger-discussion; if he really is that worthy nedved-heir, why does he play on the right side more than on the left and why the f... doesn't bayern make any attempt to renew his contract. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but believe me, if he really would be worth it, then bayern will make that financial effort and give him his 3m or whatever you guys are speaking of. That's it. You won't get a free agent for peanuts. There will be others making bids and he'll choose the best offer of course. Look at flamini and how he's rotting in milan with his 5m.

 

[v1rtu4l]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecrJESD0zYM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXuGoyhdwc

The first one is for germany and the second bayern. There are loads more with his highlights. Maybe they were all lucky goals?

i knew this would come ... first off all, it is pretty funny that you have to dig out 2 year old videos to underline how great he is, huh ?
if you have slight knowledge of football you would know that ricardo (keeper of portugal) is a terrible goalkeeper ... the first goal was surely his fault ... even chimenti had saved this. the second goal was a deflected shot who would even have been saved by ricardo wasn't it for the deflection and the third would even be saved by manninger.

which leads to another question:

DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE OF BRINGING CREATIVE AND JUST SHOOTING ON GOAL AN HOPING FOR LUCK ?

you obviously do not !

that is the perfect definition of a creative player: a lumberjack how does shot on goal everytime he receives it, because he does not know what to do with it else...

for your information: schweinsteiger did only score once in the league (30 appearances where he either subbed out or only lately subbed in in 19 of them) in the last season !

just watch the fucking bundesliga and see how cool your schweini is ...

As far as him only using his right foot as you mentioned, there are a few goals that he scored very difficult shots with a left foot, I am certain he can cross with his left if he can score with it.

hey, great logic ... molinaro is left footed ... i am certain he can cross with it too

Why dont you do us all a favor and find US videos were he is so horrible as you describe, that might strengthen your argument.

as it lies in the nature of youtube videos they do only show the good stuff and hardly how a player fails. if you ask anyone who watches the league closely he will attest you, that schweinsteiger can not cross with his left ... like for instance nedved or de ceglie.

it is really funny that you make assumption based on no real info and claim to know anything based on youtube videos.

 

[Salvo]

He's Miles older than you for calling him Kid

lol kid in football terms lol

 

[Marc]

Schweinsteiger would be a cack signing if we would bring him as a Nedved permanent replacement. Very incosistant and sometimes clueless player. His odd great game here and there doesn't impress me too much. He would surely not bring a great dose of creativity with him as he is not that type of player wih so many ideas where to play the ball.

 

[Bozi]

I wouldn't be too sure about that. They can be really annoying bitches. I personally prefer German girls.

have to agree on this, italian girl was far too much hassle, spent the whole time pandering to her. the german gf loves beer and football

not sure, i guess its down to experience, had better with italian than germans. anyhow italy produce hot women like pasta

food in italy is better beer in germany outweighs that though

 

[Firestarter]

Duo to fight for Dunne
Manchester City defender Richard Dunne is a target for Juventus and Roma, according to English reports. The Citizens' captain was allegedly ready to leave for the Giallorossi over the summer but a last minute call from new City boss Mark Hughes helped him change his mind. But fresh reports suggest that the capital club are still interested. However, Juve Coach Claudio Ranieri, who remembers Dunne from his days as Chelsea manager, is reportedly ready to pay out £6m for the 29-year-old in January.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

FORZA Bastian's GF, lets switch to Diego.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Duo to fight for Dunne
Manchester City defender Richard Dunne is a target for Juventus and Roma, according to English reports. The Citizens' captain was allegedly ready to leave for the Giallorossi over the summer but a last minute call from new City boss Mark Hughes helped him change his mind. But fresh reports suggest that the capital club are still interested. However, Juve Coach Claudio Ranieri, who remembers Dunne from his days as Chelsea manager, is reportedly ready to pay out £6m for the 29-year-old in January.

you are having a f*cking laugh! DUNNE? he's a f*cking liability!

 

[Marc]

Duo to fight for Dunne
Manchester City defender Richard Dunne is a target for Juventus and Roma, according to English reports. The Citizens' captain was allegedly ready to leave for the Giallorossi over the summer but a last minute call from new City boss Mark Hughes helped him change his mind. But fresh reports suggest that the capital club are still interested. However, Juve Coach Claudio Ranieri, who remembers Dunne from his days as Chelsea manager, is reportedly ready to pay out £6m for the 29-year-old in January.

 

[Firestarter]

you are having a f*cking laugh! DUNNE? he's a f*cking liability!

What can I say... SECCO!

 

[Ahmed]

Duo to fight for Dunne
Manchester City defender Richard Dunne is a target for Juventus and Roma, according to English reports. The Citizens' captain was allegedly ready to leave for the Giallorossi over the summer but a last minute call from new City boss Mark Hughes helped him change his mind. But fresh reports suggest that the capital club are still interested. However, Juve Coach Claudio Ranieri, who remembers Dunne from his days as Chelsea manager, is reportedly ready to pay out £6m for the 29-year-old in January.

it is a smokesecreen, Dunne will be exchanged for Kaka