The...I want this player to Juve thread (24 Viewers)

[Marc]

And you lack any true national pride because you are Croatian and have nothing to be proud of.

There, you see, you just proved my point.

thats a disgusting comment to make

Don´t worry, Mike. Offense not taken. I hope you were not offended Tony, being stubborn is not an ugly thing, it is in your blood.

 

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[#10]

Hey Croatia... Big Boy wants his uniform back.

Tony leave it, that wasnt called for.

I have enjoyed our debate, so much so i have just broke the 7k limit.

Leave the national attacks alone.

 

[tonykart]

We want to talk history then, i would whole heartdly support you campaign for such a defensifly tight system if we had a true playmaker.

A Zidane or a Platini.

But we havent, Neddy built his career on all-action attacking play and a canonball shot. He has vision, but not enought to truely make this team tick like it should.

Like modern football, the playmaker is becoming fased out. Thus such systems imho are defunct.

Nedved is 34 it is understandable. Yes, the game is being dumbed down as all sports are. I agree. But, there are a few players that could make the Juve system still work.

 

[Mike-e-y]

but his wasn't... hmm... ok

what? you just insulted an nationality, i picked you up on it and said it was disgusting to say that and my comment is terrible... man, your IQ must be -50

 

[tonykart]

Tony leave it, that wasnt called for.

I have enjoyed our debate, so much so i have just broke the 7k limit.

Leave the national attacks alone.

I declare it was self defense.

 

[Mike-e-y]

Don´t worry, Mike. Offense not taken.

good im glad, it was just un-called for.

 

[Mike-e-y]

I declare it was self defense.

is that your mum in your avatar?

 

[#10]

EASY boys.

I agree neddy hasnt go the legs anymore but he wasnt exactly the great passer when he was younger.

The last such player imho was Riq, but her has even been fased out.

 

[JuveAdam]

The 4-3-3 is a position that little children play in because they are not intelligent enough, nor creative enough to learn how to work as a team. 4-3-3 takes no imagination and no skill, and is quickly diagnosed and destroyed. Teams that run it, have short term success only.

Regarding Juventus tactics and style. I would not mind at all seeing a more creative CM. We need one. But not with the DM we have now, and not at the cost of defense. I would love to see Gilberto and Nedved in the center next year. I would love to see Gilberto and M. Diarra. Even Gilberto and Zanetti would not be bad. Zanetti and Sneijder is a scary CM combo. Zanetti - Lampard is terrifying. If you want Lampard, you would have to have Makelele next to him. Zanetti is a decent defender. If we are to have an attacking CM, we will need a very good DM. WE DONT HAVE THAT.

4-3-3 childish WTF are you on about? That is probably the most ridiculous statement on the forum at the moment, which is saying a lot! Barca, Manchester & Chelsea would all prove your theory totally wrong this season, while a quick glimpse into the games history throws up Roma & Lazio's most recent title winning sides, France in 98, the total football dutch teams of 74 & 78, Ajax since forever. Need I go on?

Then you ramble on making no sense. Need a creative centre midfield, then say Pavel should play there (a great idea!). Then M. Diarra? Creative? Then Zanetti? Then Lampard? Then Makelele? Where are you going? Why not play DD & Zidane, you seem to have suggested everyone else. Don't have a good DM? But then you have already said we could play Zanetti next term. Is he good enough or not?

I think we lost to Arsenal in the CL for a number of reasons.
1. Capello's bull$hit tactics & treatment of Del Piero
2. Camoranesi & Zebina. Say no more.
3. Fabregas having the game(s) of his life v Vieira, & the latter thinking he would own Fabregas without trying. Got owned himself, as did Zebina.

 

[Marc]

Tony, this went too far, by calling you stubborn I didn´t offend Italy, I just meant that is your main charachteristic, not that I have anything against it.

 

[tonykart]

Robinho and Ribery would be excellent options in the Nedved role. They would gain the depth needed to allow our attack to set up. AND allow Nedved to play creatively in CM. However, I do not have the faith that you do in Zanetti. I do not doubt his tactical prowess, but I do question his natural ability and skill to SHUT DOWN the Mid-Field. There are better players out there that are available.

 

[tonykart]

is that your mum in your avatar?

HAHAHA a your mom joke.. what a nerd. dont you have an online video game to play.

 

[Marc]

3 years is not a good example dude. Try again.

Barcelona won 8 titles in last 17 years, one more than Juventus with our "special system that works" and they even won 1 more CL title than us. Check your facts before you write nonsense.

 

[Mike-e-y]

HAHAHA a your mom joke.. what a nerd. dont you have an online video game to play.

no im actually in university between lectures, i couldnt resist the your mum joke and i thought it would be appropriate for your mental age!

 

[tonykart]

4-3-3 childish WTF are you on about? That is probably the most ridiculous statement on the forum at the moment, which is saying a lot! Barca, Manchester & Chelsea would all prove your theory totally wrong this season, while a quick glimpse into the games history throws up Roma & Lazio's most recent title winning sides, France in 98, the total football dutch teams of 74 & 78, Ajax since forever. Need I go on?

Then you ramble on making no sense. Need a creative centre midfield, then say Pavel should play there (a great idea!). Then M. Diarra? Creative? Then Zanetti? Then Lampard? Then Makelele? Where are you going? Why not play DD & Zidane, you seem to have suggested everyone else. Don't have a good DM? But then you have already said we could play Zanetti next term. Is he good enough or not?

I think we lost to Arsenal in the CL for a number of reasons.
1. Capello's bull$hit tactics & treatment of Del Piero
2. Camoranesi & Zebina. Say no more.
3. Fabregas having the game(s) of his life v Vieira, & the latter thinking he would own Fabregas without trying. Got owned himself, as did Zebina.

wipe off your mouth please. It is beginning to foam

 

[#10]

Robinho and Ribery would be excellent options in the Nedved role. They would gain the depth needed to allow our attack to set up. AND allow Nedved to play creatively in CM. However, I do not have the faith that you do in Zanetti. I do not doubt his tactical prowess, but I do question his natural ability and skill to SHUT DOWN the Mid-Field. There are better players out there that are available.

I too have my doubts with zannetti. When he first arrived i questioned his ability. I still do, however we lack in other places more so than dm.

Robinho isnt in any form a left winger imho, he wont do the hard defensive work required of a modern player of the 442 exponant.

If it was 433 however

P.s Ribery is class.

 

[tonykart]

Barcelona won 8 titles in last 17 years, one more than Juventus with our "special system that works" and they even won 1 more CL title than us. Check your facts before you write nonsense.

Than go watch Barcelona. Juventus is not going to change because you want them to. I beleive in our way. You want our way to be your way. Sorry, I wont support that.

 

[#10]

wipe off your mouth please. It is beginning to foam

Tony , JuveAdam has a very good arguement. YOU should accept it.

 

[tonykart]

I too have my doubts with zannetti. When he first arrived i questioned his ability. I still do, however we lack in other places more so than dm.

Robinho isnt in any form a left winger imho, he wont do the hard defensive work required of a modern player of the 442 exponant.

If it was 433 however

P.s Ribery is class.

I thought in the game Vs. Barca, Robinho really showed a lot of defensive skill. It was just one game, but I must assume he would be able to continue that at our club. Ribery is one of our best options right now.

 

[#10]

Than go watch Barcelona. Juventus is not going to change because you want them to. I beleive in our way. You want our way to be your way. Sorry, I wont support that.

Respect for the support, however times change, systems change.

There was a huge debate when lippi changed the sytem from a playmaker system to a winger system to incorparate neddy.