The...I want this player to Juve thread (24 Viewers)

[#10]

well in the two legs against arsenal we hardly had a shot, what do you think our cl exit was down to?

"Sarcasm" Not being defensive enough.

To be honest, we were poor defensively and poor going forward. Camo and Zebina did their best to mess it up.

 

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[tonykart]

Indeed the dutch know how to play football!!
Im going to shock Tony here, but i dont think it would work. VDV and Sneijder were not exactly compatible when they were together at ajax as both were to attack orientated. VDV and Sneijder are not hard working enough to be played as a combo imho. They would play sexy football though.

Thats what its all about though.

Van Der Vaart could play in Nedved's position as would Sneijder. We don't need either of them.

On a separate note, with the AMAZINGNESS of the Dutch, it is a real shocker they haven't won the world cup. Maybe I just don't see it coming on a sneak attack.

 

[Marc]

We lost to Arsenal mainly because of poor movement and midfield display. Our midfield lost the battle with Arsenal´s. They were too static and without any idea, while Arsenal´s mid´s moved better and qickly distrubuted the ball through the midfield.

Of course, Ibrahimovic didn´t help either while Zebina was literally owned.

 

[tonykart]

Every player has a job to do. Some players are responsible for defense. Some players are responsible for Attack. When players don't do their jobs, that is what happens. In 9 years under Lippi we won 1 CL. Lippi's tactics didn't SUCK the other 8 years. We were just putting all our energy into winning a tough Serie A. If we played in the Spanish League we could walk to a title and focus on CL. We don't.

 

[RAMI-N]

Indeed the dutch know how to play football!!
Im going to shock Tony here, but i dont think it would work. VDV and Sneijder were not exactly compatible when they were together at ajax as both were to attack orientated. VDV and Sneijder are not hard working enough to be played as a combo imho. They would play sexy football though.

I meant, I'd love to have 1 of them. and by the way I like the sexy football to limit

 

[#10]

The 4-3-3 is a position that little children play in because they are not intelligent enough, nor creative enough to learn how to work as a team. 4-3-3 takes no imagination and no skill, and is quickly diagnosed and destroyed. Teams that run it, have short term success only.

Regarding Juventus tactics and style. I would not mind at all seeing a more creative CM. We need one. But not with the DM we have now, and not at the cost of defense. I would love to see Gilberto and Nedved in the center next year. I would love to see Gilberto and M. Diarra. Even Gilberto and Zanetti would not be bad. Zanetti and Sneijder is a scary CM combo. Zanetti - Lampard is terrifying. If you want Lampard, you would have to have Makelele next to him. Zanetti is a decent defender. If we are to have an attacking CM, we will need a very good DM. WE DONT HAVE THAT.

Tony are you for real? A certain Cruyff proved that the 433 is dificult to stop if carried out correctly.

Barca won the CL with 433.
Chelsea won the Epl with 433.

Im sorry but your opinions on 433 appear more o be against my idea of attacking football as apposed to the actual fundementals of the system itself.

Imho zanetti can do the job of dm, but so could Giannichedda. The role of DM requires one to hold the midfield in front of the back 4. Makelele is the primary exponant of such a position. But its a postion that can be filled with hardork and tactical awareness. IMHO Zannetti has such values. However i would be agaisnt getting another DM if we get rid of Gianni and zannetti as we have such depth in defensive minded midfield. We still own Tachi and Blasi who could still return.

 

[Mike-e-y]

The 4-3-3 is a position that little children play in because they are not intelligent enough, nor creative enough to learn how to work as a team. 4-3-3 takes no imagination and no skill, and is quickly diagnosed and destroyed. Teams that run it, have short term success only.

so um... 4-3-3 takes no imagination and skill and results in short term success? arguably the 2 most successful teams over the past 3 years use 4-3-3, chelsea and barca have dominated domestically and in europe with this system, they have only struggled recently because they have been raped by injuries, man sometimes i question if you know what your talking about

 

[Mike-e-y]

"Sarcasm" Not being defensive enough.

To be honest, we were poor defensively and poor going forward. Camo and Zebina did their best to mess it up.

huh? what you mean sarchasm? tony wasnt being sarchastic???

 

[#10]

Thats what its all about though.

Van Der Vaart could play in Nedved's position as would Sneijder. We don't need either of them.

On a separate note, with the AMAZINGNESS of the Dutch, it is a real shocker they haven't won the world cup. Maybe I just don't see it coming on a sneak attack.

They dont win anything becuase they end up arguein within them selves.

I still believe Sneijder would be better in cm, as lm isnt really his postion.

A fluid variation between he and neddy sound appealing however.

 

[Marc]

He is stubborn just like a typical Italian, there is no denying about that.

 

[#10]

huh? what you mean sarchasm? tony wasnt being sarchastic???

I was just pointing out that i was sarcastically highlighting our general defensive / team performance agaisnt Arsenal

 

[tonykart]

so um... 4-3-3 takes no imagination and skill and results in short term success? arguably the 2 most successful teams over the past 3 years use 4-3-3, chelsea and barca have dominated domestically and in europe with this system, they have only struggled recently because they have been raped by injuries, man sometimes i question if you know what your talking about

3 years is not a good example dude. Try again.

 

[Mike-e-y]

I was just pointing out that i was sarcastically highlighting our general defensive / team performance agaisnt Arsenal

o right i see

 

[tonykart]

And you lack any true national pride because you are Croatian and have nothing to be proud of.

 

[#10]

I meant, I'd love to have 1 of them. and by the way I like the sexy football to limit

Ah right, well i have to agree, either of them would greatly enhance our team.

 

[Mike-e-y]

3 years is not a good example dude. Try again.

sorry mate you expect a team to dominate leagues for 10 years??? were not in the scottish league u know

 

[Mike-e-y]

And you lack any true national pride because you are Croatian and have nothing to be proud of.

thats a disgusting comment to make

 

[tonykart]

thats a disgusting comment to make

but his wasn't... hmm... ok

 

[#10]

3 years is not a good example dude. Try again.

We want to talk history then, i would whole heartdly support you campaign for such a defensifly tight system if we had a true playmaker.

A Zidane or a Platini.

But we havent, Neddy built his career on all-action attacking play and a canonball shot. He has vision, but not enought to truely make this team tick like it should.

Like modern football, the playmaker is becoming fased out. Thus such systems imho are defunct.

 

[tonykart]

Hey Croatia... Big Boy wants his uniform back.