Desially sucked, and he is responsible for prso's goal,,, + y didnt Mexes appear?
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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Santini is a f. disgrace! :scream: What a crap game from France. Completely controlled the first half, yet they barely had any shots on goal!! Tudor lent a hand and scored their first goal, then Gallas missed the open net. :wth: But to go from that to the pathetic performance in the 2nd half is quite an achievement. First of all, WTF is Silvestre doing on the pitch?? Why isn't Liza playing? He was much better covering defensively in the first match! Secondly, Desailly is a serious liability and Gallas should take his spot instead of wondering off on the flank where he obviously doesn't belong. Thuram did fine in the center, once again he was quite good. But Desailly can't cut it no more, he's too slow and he's not alert anymore. Gallas was brilliant at center back, why the f. mess with that?? So then Silvestre concedes ANOTHER penalty, does he have any clue what's going on around him? Rapaic scores despite a very decent effort from Barthez and it's all square. Then we got nothing, no response to this sudden goal. Instead, the Croats start taking charge and running their game, we got all the possession we could possibly want but we're toothless. Once again they take advantage of a defensive error and Prso scores a nice goal to put them ahead. So now it's 2-1 and the commies keep going off on how this is shocking and who would have thought. But we still got nothing, we can't get a shot on goal even, all the crosses are cut out, can't go through the middle, corners are wasted and Zidane misses all the free kicks. Then, by a stroke of luck, Tudor makes a horrible back pass (as bad as he's playing, he should never be out there), Trez fronts Vasilj, the ball bounces off of his hand and he scores. And it's even again. Blind man Kim Milton Nielsen doesn't see it and gives out yellow cards to the protesters instead. :rollani:
And there it is, yet another crap game from the team. England was no one off, this is all we get. I think it's quite obvious that we should be able to beat Croatia but at least a two goal margin with the players out there. But we don't have it, we can't break them down. So we need support and Santini is standing there like a moron, clueless.
The one thing that really wasn't working today was the crossing. Not one cross made it to its target, they were all bad, blocked, missed the players completely. So confronted with this, what does the dumbass in the tie do? He leaves two of the best crossers in the team on the bench. Sagnol doesn't come on until 75' while the best crossers since 1947 doesn't even come off the bench!! Why does he hate Rothen so much? He would have been perfect for this. He's like a robot, he will do anything to get the cross in and once he does it's almost always good. But no, leave it to Zidane, Henry, Gallas, Pires, Wiltord. They sure did a hell of a job delivering the ball. :frustrat:
I knew it from the start, once I heard he already signed with Tottenham BEFORE the tournament started I was saying to myself what kind of coach would do that to his team??? Santini, that's who. Jacques the jackass. It's so obvious that this team needs some serious guidence to get to where they are supposed to go and Santini is completely inept. He doesn't even get involved, he just stands on the byline like he doesn't even understand the game. Today they didn't score one proper goal, Tudor helped us out and Trez handballed. Croatia was run over by the French but they still deserved to win!!!
Barthez: Solid performance. There was one time he dropped the ball after Thuram tackled him but shit happens, he should have held on to it but it was a one off. Otherwise he wasn't tested all the much but he was close to the penalty and he was secure.
Silvestre: Crap. No offence, mediocre defence. Caused a completely unnecessary penalty. Fair enough, with Rooney it was a tactical foul. Today was just a dumb foul.
Gallas: Misplaced and confused. He can't cross the ball and he's no good going forward. He should stay in the back and do his work like he did last time.
Thuram: Solid him too, I didn't spot any mistakes and though he's slower now his positioning is still good. No complaints.
Dacourt: Definitely would have chosen Makelele ahead of him. Less precision and more aggression is what you get with Dacourt, even though it didn't really seem like his heart was in it.
Vieira: An occasional miss here and there but he holds the midfield together. Very incapable of participating offensively but that's not his job anyway.
Wiltord: Incredibly wasteful and unproductive. Couldn't get his crosses in, didn't beat his marker once and created next to nothing.
Zidane: Why do I get the impression he's tired? His first half was identical to the team's, very active and in control. But the one thing he is supposed to do is find the right passes and openings. Don't tell me Croatia is too tough an opponent, they didn't shut down shop like England. At this point, Zidane is largely flashy but ineffective. I suppose the lack of movement from his teammates is to blame but then he IS the genius here.
Henry: Very ineffective. Couldn't do much with the ball, didn't get any crosses to work with, misfired a few times and generally a performance to forget.
Trez: Even worse, doesn't get one chance the whole game, he's not involved and scores a goal that's not even valid. So far it's been a crap tournament from Trez.
Santini is a f. disgrace! :scream: What a crap game from France. Completely controlled the first half, yet they barely had any shots on goal!! Tudor lent a hand and scored their first goal, then Gallas missed the open net. :wth: But to go from that to the pathetic performance in the 2nd half is quite an achievement. First of all, WTF is Silvestre doing on the pitch?? Why isn't Liza playing? He was much better covering defensively in the first match! Secondly, Desailly is a serious liability and Gallas should take his spot instead of wondering off on the flank where he obviously doesn't belong. Thuram did fine in the center, once again he was quite good. But Desailly can't cut it no more, he's too slow and he's not alert anymore. Gallas was brilliant at center back, why the f. mess with that?? So then Silvestre concedes ANOTHER penalty, does he have any clue what's going on around him? Rapaic scores despite a very decent effort from Barthez and it's all square. Then we got nothing, no response to this sudden goal. Instead, the Croats start taking charge and running their game, we got all the possession we could possibly want but we're toothless. Once again they take advantage of a defensive error and Prso scores a nice goal to put them ahead. So now it's 2-1 and the commies keep going off on how this is shocking and who would have thought. But we still got nothing, we can't get a shot on goal even, all the crosses are cut out, can't go through the middle, corners are wasted and Zidane misses all the free kicks. Then, by a stroke of luck, Tudor makes a horrible back pass (as bad as he's playing, he should never be out there), Trez fronts Vasilj, the ball bounces off of his hand and he scores. And it's even again. Blind man Kim Milton Nielsen doesn't see it and gives out yellow cards to the protesters instead. :rollani:
And there it is, yet another crap game from the team. England was no one off, this is all we get. I think it's quite obvious that we should be able to beat Croatia but at least a two goal margin with the players out there. But we don't have it, we can't break them down. So we need support and Santini is standing there like a moron, clueless.
The one thing that really wasn't working today was the crossing. Not one cross made it to its target, they were all bad, blocked, missed the players completely. So confronted with this, what does the dumbass in the tie do? He leaves two of the best crossers in the team on the bench. Sagnol doesn't come on until 75' while the best crossers since 1947 doesn't even come off the bench!! Why does he hate Rothen so much? He would have been perfect for this. He's like a robot, he will do anything to get the cross in and once he does it's almost always good. But no, leave it to Zidane, Henry, Gallas, Pires, Wiltord. They sure did a hell of a job delivering the ball. :frustrat: I knew it from the start, once I heard he already signed with Tottenham BEFORE the tournament started I was saying to myself what kind of coach would do that to his team??? Santini, that's who. Jacques the jackass. It's so obvious that this team needs some serious guidence to get to where they are supposed to go and Santini is completely inept. He doesn't even get involved, he just stands on the byline like he doesn't even understand the game. Today they didn't score one proper goal, Tudor helped us out and Trez handballed. Croatia was run over by the French but they still deserved to win!!!
Barthez: Solid performance. There was one time he dropped the ball after Thuram tackled him but shit happens, he should have held on to it but it was a one off. Otherwise he wasn't tested all the much but he was close to the penalty and he was secure.
Silvestre: Crap. No offence, mediocre defence. Caused a completely unnecessary penalty. Fair enough, with Rooney it was a tactical foul. Today was just a dumb foul.
Gallas: Misplaced and confused. He can't cross the ball and he's no good going forward. He should stay in the back and do his work like he did last time.
Thuram: Solid him too, I didn't spot any mistakes and though he's slower now his positioning is still good. No complaints.
Dacourt: Definitely would have chosen Makelele ahead of him. Less precision and more aggression is what you get with Dacourt, even though it didn't really seem like his heart was in it.
Vieira: An occasional miss here and there but he holds the midfield together. Very incapable of participating offensively but that's not his job anyway.
Wiltord: Incredibly wasteful and unproductive. Couldn't get his crosses in, didn't beat his marker once and created next to nothing.
Zidane: Why do I get the impression he's tired? His first half was identical to the team's, very active and in control. But the one thing he is supposed to do is find the right passes and openings. Don't tell me Croatia is too tough an opponent, they didn't shut down shop like England. At this point, Zidane is largely flashy but ineffective. I suppose the lack of movement from his teammates is to blame but then he IS the genius here.
Henry: Very ineffective. Couldn't do much with the ball, didn't get any crosses to work with, misfired a few times and generally a performance to forget.
Trez: Even worse, doesn't get one chance the whole game, he's not involved and scores a goal that's not even valid. So far it's been a crap tournament from Trez.
I thought i was critical
I agree with alot of what youve said. But i think frances biggest problem is their forwards are just not doing enough. Henry and Trez are great goalscorers but need to stop standing around and make things happen up front.
Trezeguets goal was a definate goal. It was ball to hand and not much he could have done about it.
But this is supposed to be the best team in this tournament, sure as hell not looking like it
Not that im complaining
France is relying too much in Zidane. every ball has to run through him. he has to make every pass. geez i wouldnt be surprised if he runs out gas by the second half. Dacourt had a pretty good game too but he didnt have to do much with Viera there too.
Croatia played well but what the hell is wrong with tudor. i hope people still want him after the euro.
How did the croatian guy missed that in the end
Croatia played well but what the hell is wrong with tudor. i hope people still want him after the euro.
How did the croatian guy missed that in the end
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
Santini is a f. disgrace! :scream: What a crap game from France. Completely controlled the first half, yet they barely had any shots on goal!! Tudor lent a hand and scored their first goal, then Gallas missed the open net. :wth: But to go from that to the pathetic performance in the 2nd half is quite an achievement. First of all, WTF is Silvestre doing on the pitch?? Why isn't Liza playing? He was much better covering defensively in the first match! Secondly, Desailly is a serious liability and Gallas should take his spot instead of wondering off on the flank where he obviously doesn't belong. Thuram did fine in the center, once again he was quite good. But Desailly can't cut it no more, he's too slow and he's not alert anymore. Gallas was brilliant at center back, why the f. mess with that?? So then Silvestre concedes ANOTHER penalty, does he have any clue what's going on around him? Rapaic scores despite a very decent effort from Barthez and it's all square. Then we got nothing, no response to this sudden goal. Instead, the Croats start taking charge and running their game, we got all the possession we could possibly want but we're toothless. Once again they take advantage of a defensive error and Prso scores a nice goal to put them ahead. So now it's 2-1 and the commies keep going off on how this is shocking and who would have thought. But we still got nothing, we can't get a shot on goal even, all the crosses are cut out, can't go through the middle, corners are wasted and Zidane misses all the free kicks. Then, by a stroke of luck, Tudor makes a horrible back pass (as bad as he's playing, he should never be out there), Trez fronts Vasilj, the ball bounces off of his hand and he scores. And it's even again. Blind man Kim Milton Nielsen doesn't see it and gives out yellow cards to the protesters instead. :rollani:
And there it is, yet another crap game from the team. England was no one off, this is all we get. I think it's quite obvious that we should be able to beat Croatia but at least a two goal margin with the players out there. But we don't have it, we can't break them down. So we need support and Santini is standing there like a moron, clueless. The one thing that really wasn't working today was the crossing. Not one cross made it to its target, they were all bad, blocked, missed the players completely. So confronted with this, what does the dumbass in the tie do? He leaves two of the best crossers in the team on the bench. Sagnol doesn't come on until 75' while the best crossers since 1947 doesn't even come off the bench!! Why does he hate Rothen so much? He would have been perfect for this. He's like a robot, he will do anything to get the cross in and once he does it's almost always good. But no, leave it to Zidane, Henry, Gallas, Pires, Wiltord. They sure did a hell of a job delivering the ball. :frustrat:
I knew it from the start, once I heard he already signed with Tottenham BEFORE the tournament started I was saying to myself what kind of coach would do that to his team??? Santini, that's who. Jacques the jackass. It's so obvious that this team needs some serious guidence to get to where they are supposed to go and Santini is completely inept. He doesn't even get involved, he just stands on the byline like he doesn't even understand the game. Today they didn't score one proper goal, Tudor helped us out and Trez handballed. Croatia was run over by the French but they still deserved to win!!!
Santini is a f. disgrace! :scream: What a crap game from France. Completely controlled the first half, yet they barely had any shots on goal!! Tudor lent a hand and scored their first goal, then Gallas missed the open net. :wth: But to go from that to the pathetic performance in the 2nd half is quite an achievement. First of all, WTF is Silvestre doing on the pitch?? Why isn't Liza playing? He was much better covering defensively in the first match! Secondly, Desailly is a serious liability and Gallas should take his spot instead of wondering off on the flank where he obviously doesn't belong. Thuram did fine in the center, once again he was quite good. But Desailly can't cut it no more, he's too slow and he's not alert anymore. Gallas was brilliant at center back, why the f. mess with that?? So then Silvestre concedes ANOTHER penalty, does he have any clue what's going on around him? Rapaic scores despite a very decent effort from Barthez and it's all square. Then we got nothing, no response to this sudden goal. Instead, the Croats start taking charge and running their game, we got all the possession we could possibly want but we're toothless. Once again they take advantage of a defensive error and Prso scores a nice goal to put them ahead. So now it's 2-1 and the commies keep going off on how this is shocking and who would have thought. But we still got nothing, we can't get a shot on goal even, all the crosses are cut out, can't go through the middle, corners are wasted and Zidane misses all the free kicks. Then, by a stroke of luck, Tudor makes a horrible back pass (as bad as he's playing, he should never be out there), Trez fronts Vasilj, the ball bounces off of his hand and he scores. And it's even again. Blind man Kim Milton Nielsen doesn't see it and gives out yellow cards to the protesters instead. :rollani:
And there it is, yet another crap game from the team. England was no one off, this is all we get. I think it's quite obvious that we should be able to beat Croatia but at least a two goal margin with the players out there. But we don't have it, we can't break them down. So we need support and Santini is standing there like a moron, clueless.
The one thing that really wasn't working today was the crossing. Not one cross made it to its target, they were all bad, blocked, missed the players completely. So confronted with this, what does the dumbass in the tie do? He leaves two of the best crossers in the team on the bench. Sagnol doesn't come on until 75' while the best crossers since 1947 doesn't even come off the bench!! Why does he hate Rothen so much? He would have been perfect for this. He's like a robot, he will do anything to get the cross in and once he does it's almost always good. But no, leave it to Zidane, Henry, Gallas, Pires, Wiltord. They sure did a hell of a job delivering the ball. :frustrat: I knew it from the start, once I heard he already signed with Tottenham BEFORE the tournament started I was saying to myself what kind of coach would do that to his team??? Santini, that's who. Jacques the jackass. It's so obvious that this team needs some serious guidence to get to where they are supposed to go and Santini is completely inept. He doesn't even get involved, he just stands on the byline like he doesn't even understand the game. Today they didn't score one proper goal, Tudor helped us out and Trez handballed. Croatia was run over by the French but they still deserved to win!!!
In the mood you were in at the time, I bet you could've said all that in one breath
Imagine how much longer your post would've been if Mornar had buried that sitter at the end
What is clear is that France is not showing signs of being connected. There are so many wrong passes and loose balls in the middfield. The abscence of Makelele was deeply resented, overall because Viera was erratic and nervous, making many mistakes. ..if this trend continue, france will not run too far...
++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
In the mood you were in at the time, I bet you could've said all that in one breath
Imagine how much longer your post would've been if Mornar had buried that sitter at the end
In the mood you were in at the time, I bet you could've said all that in one breath
Imagine how much longer your post would've been if Mornar had buried that sitter at the end
I'm annoyed with how poor they play (Italy too for that matter) but I don't let it get to me, it's just a game right? I suppose that's a contradiction of sorts...
++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
You know it's funny cause when I wrote this, people told me to calm down. Meanwhile, I'm as calm as they get. I'm annoyed with how poor they play (Italy too for that matter) but I don't let it get to me, it's just a game right?
I suppose that's a contradiction of sorts...
You know it's funny cause when I wrote this, people told me to calm down. Meanwhile, I'm as calm as they get.
I'm annoyed with how poor they play (Italy too for that matter) but I don't let it get to me, it's just a game right? I suppose that's a contradiction of sorts...
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