The Financial Situation (47 Viewers)

The Quazis

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Dec 21, 2012
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Deloitte football money league. We are 10th for revenue

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When you look at the revenue streams some of these other clubs get and see how far down the peaking order we are and STILL made it to 2 finals in 3 seasons should be enough let people sit back and contemplate why they are so up-in-arms so often with their pitchforks in hand.
We need to work on the commercial income. We are more or less stuck regarding matchday revenue and TV revenue doesn't depend on us. We have signed quite a few deals with companies like Cygames, M&Ms, that Chinese mineral water company, Carlsberg, that Mexican beer and some others I don't remember so hopefully we will see a rise next year.
 

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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
We need to work on the commercial income. We are more or less stuck regarding matchday revenue and TV revenue doesn't depend on us. We have signed quite a few deals with companies like Cygames, M&Ms, that Chinese mineral water company, Carlsberg, that Mexican beer and some others I don't remember so hopefully we will see a rise next year.
The big takeaway here, at least for me, is it’s laughabke to think we can compete with some of these clubs with mega salaries. We don’t make enough to sustain that long term.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,174
Well, we need to start thinking how to grow at a faster rate. Fuckers like PSG and Man City are forging ahead, and cunts like United continue to have a huge global audience. We can't afford to fall behind too much. Obviously, UEFA need to intervene and impose some restrictions/sanctions, but we all know they're a joke.

We must retain our best players because marketing and global appeal is synonymous with exciting players. No one is gonna follow us because we have a Sturaro, Khedira, or even a Higuain. Players like Pjanic, Buffon, and of course Dybala keep us relevant from a marketing/fan-base perspective.

I wouldn't be averse to selling off the club; in fact, I wish a couple of billionaires with unlimited funds buy up teams like Lazio and Atalanta for example, if it means the league becomes more competitive and appealing to a global audience. If UEFA aren't planning on doing shit to intervene, then the league needs to become relevant and more attractive again.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,839
No sane investor would want to invest in Italy with all their bureaucracy especially when there are benefits for investing elsewhere. A 20th place team in PL for example earns €200M a year through TV money. That's an investor's dream.

All this league can attract is Chinese frauds as we are seeing now.
 

campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
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Well, we need to start thinking how to grow at a faster rate. Fuckers like PSG and Man City are forging ahead, and cunts like United continue to have a huge global audience. We can't afford to fall behind too much. Obviously, UEFA need to intervene and impose some restrictions/sanctions, but we all know they're a joke.

We must retain our best players because marketing and global appeal is synonymous with exciting players. No one is gonna follow us because we have a Sturaro, Khedira, or even a Higuain. Players like Pjanic, Buffon, and of course Dybala keep us relevant from a marketing/fan-base perspective.

I wouldn't be averse to selling off the club; in fact, I wish a couple of billionaires with unlimited funds buy up teams like Lazio and Atalanta for example, if it means the league becomes more competitive and appealing to a global audience. If UEFA aren't planning on doing shit to intervene, then the league needs to become relevant and more attractive again.
Sadly I think Serie A will become more popular if Napoli wins the league this season. Serie A really has to improve its broadcasting quality, pitches and stadiums.
Football wise I think it is the best league, efforts must be taken to improve its marketing outreach. Juve's marketing team is excellent. Our social media accounts have exploded over the last 5 years, and doing cool things like partnering with Netflix and sponsoring concerts (like they did during the 2017 pre-season in the US) really helps. Having said that, we just push for better deals from Jeep and Adidas. (Jeep has become really popular in Italy in the last few years).

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:lol: Calm down man. Why you are trying so hard to persuade people into your pov? I don't like Premier League not because I'm bitter and envy their money but it is simply not attractive to me. And I'm not alone. Oh, and that point of yours, every player gets noticed in bpl is nonsense. Majority of international fans find it hard to know every team that plays in bpl let a lone some scrubs from Swansea or other Brighton.
:tup: How many people talk about Pascal Gross, Richarlison, Doucoure, Fabianski etc? They've been really good for their respective teams this season. Also, look how much attention certain players from non-top tier teams in Italy receive. Milinkovic Savic, Immobile, Felipe Anderson, Belotti, Lucas Torreira, Federico Chiesa, Papu Gomez have all been hot topics over the last 12 months.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Well, we need to start thinking how to grow at a faster rate. Fuckers like PSG and Man City are forging ahead, and cunts like United continue to have a huge global audience. We can't afford to fall behind too much. Obviously, UEFA need to intervene and impose some restrictions/sanctions, but we all know they're a joke.

We must retain our best players because marketing and global appeal is synonymous with exciting players. No one is gonna follow us because we have a Sturaro, Khedira, or even a Higuain. Players like Pjanic, Buffon, and of course Dybala keep us relevant from a marketing/fan-base perspective.

I wouldn't be averse to selling off the club; in fact, I wish a couple of billionaires with unlimited funds buy up teams like Lazio and Atalanta for example, if it means the league becomes more competitive and appealing to a global audience. If UEFA aren't planning on doing shit to intervene, then the league needs to become relevant and more attractive again.
Then what happens when those billionaires lose interest and sell? Take special note of Milan and Inter.

Weak argument IMO. Sorry
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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The thing is that the appeal of the league has nothing to do with quality of football really. It's all marketing. Napoli plays some of the best football you can hope to watch and no one cares. Even Guardiola is fapping over them but no one cares outside of Neapolitans.

All that matters is presentation of the product and being available in English.

If Napoli played in the EPL they would be accumulating plastic fans at a quicker rate than Arsenal did in the early 2000s.
 

Vialli_92

Senior Member
Mar 7, 2013
6,500
We are limited and pretty much operating at our maximum

Agnelli should get us a better sponsor what ever JEEP are paying us is simply not enough

Calciopoli is still restricting us, we would be in a better position no doubt if it wasn't for Inter mafia
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,760
We are limited and pretty much operating at our maximum

Agnelli should get us a better sponsor what ever JEEP are paying us is simply not enough

Calciopoli is still restricting us, we would be in a better position no doubt if it wasn't for Inter mafia
yeah we should get at least double than what we get from Jeep and a better deal with Adidas..
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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TV rights transform Serie A

Serie A is set to be transformed by the new TV rights deal and Juventus will be the biggest losers, writes Emmet Gates.

It looks as if 2018-19 really will be a game-changer in Serie A. Not only have they got four automatic places in the Champions League, they’ll also begin benefiting from the new TV rights deal that substantially shifts the power structure between big and mid-table clubs.

An unexpected development came when the league accepted Spanish multimedia company Mediapro’s bid for the rights to Serie A for the next three years. There had been whispers of a bid for several weeks, and when it did arrive, it proved to be substantially higher than Sky Italia and Mediaset’s, and was promptly gobbled up by the league, unanimously voted in favour by the clubs.

As of writing the deal has yet to be rubberstamped (it has to go through the Antitrust Authority beforehand), but it signals a major shift away from old allegiances. Mediapro may’ve potentially broken the Sky/Mediaset duopoly that’s had a stranglehold over Serie A coverage since 2003.

The Catalan company are paying €1.05bn a season – the minimum target set by the league – and their bid was some €220m more than the combined Sky/Mediaset effort.

Mediaset, with all its financial troubles, refused to rise above the €200m mark. Sky meanwhile, thinking there were no other interested parties for the rights, low-balled the league with a ludicrously low €630m offer.

As the news seeped through, Sky, like a jilted lover, pleaded with the league not to accept the Mediapro offer, deeming it ‘inadmissible’. Sky’s fear is that by snapping up all the exclusive rights, Mediapro would create a dedicated Serie A channel with the sole intention of broadcasting games. However, part of the Melangri law in Italy forbids any broadcaster from gaining exclusivity of TV rights.

Once Mediapro stated they would be acting as intermediaries and not producers of their newly acquired content, Sky noticeably changed their tune and proclaimed they would be open to negotiating.

Mediapro’s entry could prove to be a game changer for Serie A, an outsider bringing fresh ideas to the table. In fact, several provisions have already been made upon completion of the deal. Firstly, the grass on all pitches must be the same height and the density of green must be identical. Secondly, advertising boards around the pitch must have precise colours. And thirdly, and perhaps the most important stipulation, is that the sections of the stadium that are in direct line of the hard camera must be filled with spectators. If clubs fail to comply then they will be sanctioned, a process already in place in La Liga.

Presentation is an issue that has dogged televisual coverage of Serie A for years, and by inserting the aforementioned conditions into the deal, Mediapro are clearly aware of this. They’ve done their homework. “We believe that profits (for Serie A in recent years) have diminished, we are here to reverse this trend,” said Tatxo Benet, one of the founders of Mediapro.

Football financial website, Calcio e Finanza, broke down how the new TV deal will be structured. It combined the hypothetical domestic deal, in addition to the confirmed international rights (that garnered €1.1bn for the same three-year cycle), and what was revealing is that the biggest winners are the mid-table teams.

In a move to give the league some parity of competitiveness in the midst of the Juventus-dominant era, the slice of the TV pie that is to be split equally among the teams will rise to 50%, an increase of 10% from the current deal. The controversial ‘number of fans’ category has also been amended, as have others.

With an extra €300m pocketed on the current deal, Atalanta come out the biggest winners, gaining an extra €25m per season on the 2015-18 deal. Sampdoria (€24m), Genoa (€20m) and Torino (€17m) can all smile a little more also. The biggest losers are Italy’s biggest team, with Juventus losing €17m between the deals. Inter (€9m), Roma (€11m), Lazio and Napoli (both €17m) all benefit.

Mediapro clearly believe there is untapped potential in Serie A and a feeling they can emulate what they’ve done for the value of La Liga and double its revenue inside several years. From next season, there will be eight different kick-off slots as opposed to the current five, in an effort to maximise viewing figures. This strategy is also implemented in La Liga.

In a depressing stat for traditionalists, there will only be three 15:00 Sunday games. It wouldn’t be surprising to see several of the biggest games pushed to an earlier slot, for example the new Saturday 15:00 kick off, to appease the mythical Asian market. This is even more likely after a Chinese company promptly bought out a majority share in Mediapro just days after they had clinched the Serie A rights. There’s no such thing as a coincidence in business.

Mediapro also plan to diversify the way their coverage of Serie A is viewed, hoping to strike deals with telecommunication giants TIM and tech companies like Amazon and Perform to stream matches.

The Antitrust Authority’s response to the deal should be announced within the next six weeks. If the green light is given, then it really will be the start of year zero for calcio.
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Intriguing.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,839
Spain bailing out Serie A and teaching them what to do :baus:

You can place the cameras at any angle you want and make every little adjustments you want but if the stadiums continues to be shitty and empty, people wont tune in.

I myself hate to watch our games when we travel to Verona(Worst stadium in the league imo)
 

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