The Financial Situation (21 Viewers)

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
Great growth, but still such a long way to go.
there is no long way to go, nobody can catch Barcelona, Madrid, MU and Bayern in the nearest 20+ years, plus with the new TV deal english clubs gonna jump over us anytime soon so there will be big four - Real, Barcelona, MU and Bayern + EPL teams and then all the others clubs - Juventus, PSG, Milan etc.
Plus from any point of view we suck because of our stadium - look at the attendance of the big four club + any team from german bundesliga and epl and then look and compare it with the juventus stadium attendance whenever juventus is playing against Sampdoria or Crotone
http://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/IT1
we are only 3rd in italy with avg. 32.741 attendance, we are not even 2nd
http://www.transfermarkt.com/premier-league/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/GB1
and now look here - we would be only 9th in England after MU, Arsenal, Liverpool, West Ham, City, Sunderland, Chelsea and Everton
http://www.transfermarkt.com/1-bundesliga/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/L1 - 11th in Germany
http://www.transfermarkt.com/primera-division/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/ES1 - 8th in Spain
http://www.transfermarkt.com/ligue-1/besucherzahlen/wettbewerb/FR1 - 4th in France
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
29,865
Juventino[RUS];5411102 said:
there is no long way to go, nobody can catch Barcelona, Madrid, MU and Bayern in the nearest 20+ years, plus with the new TV deal english clubs gonna jump over us anytime soon so there will be big four - Real, Barcelona, MU and Bayern + EPL teams and the others clubs.
Plus from any point of view we suck because of our stadium - look at the attendance of the big four club + any team from german bundesliga and epl and then look and compare it with the juventus stadium attendance whenever juventus is playing against Sampdoria or Crotone
The rest of the league is holding us back. They need to start trying to catch up with us for us to catch up to the top 4.
 

Juventino[RUS]

Senior Member
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
The rest of the league is holding us back. They need to start trying to catch up with us for us to catch up to the top 4.
Impossible, there are no new stadiums, no new infrastrucutre, italian football is doomed, nobody is building anything forsure, we can only see some projects on the paper. Here is the best example of how the italian burecracy bullshit is ruining everything in calcio
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2016/09/de-laurentiis-announces-plans-for-new-stadium/
ADL wants to rebuild the stadium and of course as investor for this he wants to own the stadium and to earn money from the tickets sale and so on but he can't because they don't allow him, all they need is just another 550k of euro per season from Napoli so they can buy some diamonds and pearls for their women :sergio:
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
Juventino[RUS];5411105 said:
Impossible, there are no new stadiums, no new infrastrucutre, italian football is doomed, nobody is building anything forsure, we can only see some projects on the paper. Here is the best example of how the italian burecracy bull$#@! is ruining everything in calcio
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2016/09/de-laurentiis-announces-plans-for-new-stadium/
ADL wants to rebuild the stadium and of course as investor for this he wants to own the stadium and to earn money from the tickets sale and so on but he can't because they don't allow him, all they need is just another 550k of euro per season from Napoli so they can buy some diamonds and pearls for their women :sergio:
and the italian public doesn't press hard and demand changes for the better for their supposedly beloved calcio :sergio: italian pride my ass...
 

Valerio.

Senior Member
Jul 5, 2014
5,689
we're getting the pathetic sum of 32m/year xD i'm not saying we should get 100m+ but at least 70

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Juventino[RUS];5411105 said:
Impossible, there are no new stadiums, no new infrastrucutre, italian football is doomed, nobody is building anything forsure, we can only see some projects on the paper. Here is the best example of how the italian burecracy bull$#@! is ruining everything in calcio
http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2016/09/de-laurentiis-announces-plans-for-new-stadium/
ADL wants to rebuild the stadium and of course as investor for this he wants to own the stadium and to earn money from the tickets sale and so on but he can't because they don't allow him, all they need is just another 550k of euro per season from Napoli so they can buy some diamonds and pearls for their women :sergio:
it's a bit different from how you picture it.

In Italy it's not that they can't or won't build new stadiums.
The main factors are that those who wanna build wanna do it with side beneficts. Look at Roma plans. A stadium and a new quarter with 3 skycripplers and more. Aka 300 for the stadium and 1b for the rest.
What does that means? means that they can build but they want something in return for it. To say so to repay what they have to spend for the stadium.

That's the biggest point for no new stadiums beside us and Udinese.

The second point is... as all the stadiums in Italy (juventus and udinese aside) are pubblic propriety so they're owned by govt.
to play in those stadiums you have to pay a fee (yearly) a rent.
For those cities which has a stadium to rent losing it it's a big loss in the city revenue so they make difficulties to let them build elswhere with bureaucracy tricks and whatever.
We started our stadium project back in 2003 and they started to build it (thx to the invernal olympics games hosted in Turin) 2009-2010 and we got lucky cause without the olympic games i doubt we would have proceded with the project.
But to build it we had to give the cinema and the bowling they planned to build together with it.
 

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