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what was milan pre berlusconi?
what was milan pre berlusconi?
i'll let you decide what was milan before berlusconi.
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berlusconi bought milan in '86. before that, milan won 10 scudetti (8 with berlusconi) and 4 italian cups (1 with berlusconi). milan won 4 european cups (cl's) with him, 2 ec's and 2 cup winners' cups without him.
i'll let you decide what was milan before berlusconi.
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This is a seriously good discussion.
In terms of international prestige people regard Juve, Milan, Inter and Roma to be 'big teams' historically. Lazio, Fiorentina, Napoli and even Palermo have a higher reputation than the rest of the league, too. I've mentioned before that all of those teams have a decent place to start from in terms of building an international following. As pointed out above Roma has 7 million followers on facebook. That's a great position for a team that hasn't challenged for anything in a generation.
In terms of the league becoming competitive I'd like to see Milan being bought by these Chinese guys while Napoli and Roma keep up their progress and get to a position to challenge, doing it the hard way. Then with the added audience the other teams I mentioned would gradually improve with the league as a whole. There are a couple of other things to consider, though.
- The Europa League: The league needs to do something (although I have no idea what) to make teams take it seriously. More coefficient points mean we get our fourth CL place back and with it the added cash.
- Stadiums: To be honest I think Roma and Milan or whoever just need to get it done somehow. Bribe whoever they need to and just sort it out. I love the current old-school stadiums we have but they don't fit the modern game (which I actually think is totally fucked, but there we are)
Anything which increases how much money is in the league will be good for the league, obviously. We can get that through the fans going to games, prize money or TV& Sponsorship money. This league has so much potential, though and just needs refurbishing. Imagine a world where those four teams I mentioned were CL regulars. Who would watch Man City vs Chelsea over a Milan vs Roma game? So much more prestige in that second tie.
In terms of international prestige people regard Juve, Milan, Inter and Roma to be 'big teams' historically. Lazio, Fiorentina, Napoli and even Palermo have a higher reputation than the rest of the league, too. I've mentioned before that all of those teams have a decent place to start from in terms of building an international following. As pointed out above Roma has 7 million followers on facebook. That's a great position for a team that hasn't challenged for anything in a generation.
In terms of the league becoming competitive I'd like to see Milan being bought by these Chinese guys while Napoli and Roma keep up their progress and get to a position to challenge, doing it the hard way. Then with the added audience the other teams I mentioned would gradually improve with the league as a whole. There are a couple of other things to consider, though.
- The Europa League: The league needs to do something (although I have no idea what) to make teams take it seriously. More coefficient points mean we get our fourth CL place back and with it the added cash.
- Stadiums: To be honest I think Roma and Milan or whoever just need to get it done somehow. Bribe whoever they need to and just sort it out. I love the current old-school stadiums we have but they don't fit the modern game (which I actually think is totally fucked, but there we are)
Anything which increases how much money is in the league will be good for the league, obviously. We can get that through the fans going to games, prize money or TV& Sponsorship money. This league has so much potential, though and just needs refurbishing. Imagine a world where those four teams I mentioned were CL regulars. Who would watch Man City vs Chelsea over a Milan vs Roma game? So much more prestige in that second tie.
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So was Chelsea for the vast majority of it's history. When the Premier League was conceived the "Big Five" were Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Everton. Even Aston Villa was regarded as a bigger club. A competitive league and continued appearances in European football can change things quickly.
The most important thing for italian football will be the next TV deal, which will be negotiated a year from now and start in 18/19. If a year from now it's clear that the next TV deal will be much better, good enough to not let the gap widen too much with our european competition, than you can plan much differently for the future than if it turns out that the next deal won't help much. A better TV deals leads to better teams and better teams lead to a more interesting league and a more interesting league leads to better sponsorship deals. It's the difference between an upward or a downward spiral from a leagues perspective.
What I don't understand is why our Adidas deal is so so significantly smaller than the others. You'd think Adidas signs these deals hoping to make back the money in shirt sales. We sold 1.7 million shirts this season while Man Utd and Chelsea sold 3 million. How come our deal is worth 30 million and Chelsea's is worth 77 million? We sell more than half of what they sold yet we receive a lot less than half of what they make. As someone here said Real is rumoured to get a 140 million deal soon. They sold 2.9 million shirts.
