++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++
Actually creatine is harmless, I use it too you know...
Don't know about these EPO-things, I don't believe that football is clean as sport at all, but I don't believe that we were the only ones being stupid enough to get punished for it... I believe that everybodyg use doping in football and in other sports, it's even quite obvious when you think of it... And this trial is a laughing stock, politics are involved in this just too obviously...
i suggest u to stop administrating creatine right now, if u still wonna have a working liver the next years

to obtain some muscle u need atleast the 12 shots for a start, but it doesnt worth it,
my gym instructor after 7years has become...
not exactly what he wished to be,
of course 77%havent the same problem,but they do have other.
everybody heard the bachini thing,
i ve seen with my own eyes football players taking stuff without having the slightest idea what they can do to their organism(testosteron),
17year old, kids, playing for unknown teams hoping they will become great... athlets,
players who play once a week, acnt handle the programme and want to become better with a magic drug,
playing in a profesional league, in a superperformance team like juve along with the best players of the world, 2-3 games per week, leaves u no choice.
And if u dont do it someone else will and take ur place,
this is the real world,
juve didnt make it,
but has to survive it.
if ur life is football a thing like this can t stop u,
well atleast ALL the today's pro's didn't,
juve is a top club, with top tech and people in every way,
it is said, our stuff is one of the best outhere, for decades.
we also have many enemies, there is an official research on us from an italian member of judiciary.
its very unfair because all the clubs in europe have the same rules,
besides maby the shedish

you simply cant play 90' with or against the beast,
davids without a little help.
wich doesnt give u an advantage really, cause everybody else does it,
it just helps u from the handicape,
i saw with my own eyes the difference on chivu's body,
i am a doctor to be and a hard worker on the gym,
3months in roma made him onother man,
if u dont believe it u just close ur eyes on it,
its the reallity,
its very very unfair that juve and only sould be accused of it.
besides better endurance, stamina and power doesnt make u something,
on football talent is something u cant replace.
but combine them it gives u the advantage,
u can give quantity for quallity,
run faster than dribble,
jump higher than jump exactly the right milisecond.
dopamine is the main enemy exactly because gives edvantages like that,
if players based on dribling like alex are forced to use stuff, that means that they just have to keep up with the rest wich normally wouldnt be a serius problem for them,
if the game was clear they just dont need it.
but who has the courage to speak about maldini,gattuso,vieri, roberto carlos etc
juve and alex are always the easy victim,
especially without the great avocato support him