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I don't think you understand. I don't think the 99% are the problem, but you do the maths. How many muslims are there? So how many people are that 1%?
I also firmly disagree with people who completely dismiss the violent nature of Islam. The Qu'uran itself isn't free of violence, Muhammad wasn't completely tolerant towards people who didn't believe.. all of this doesn't exactly make it hard to misinterpret the Qu'uran.
I also firmly disagree with people who completely dismiss the violent nature of Islam. The Qu'uran itself isn't free of violence, Muhammad wasn't completely tolerant towards people who didn't believe.. all of this doesn't exactly make it hard to misinterpret the Qu'uran.
This is a very touchy subject. Muslims are becoming less and less tolerant towards the views of others. Obviously I do not think about people like Zé Tahir or sallyinzaghi here, but did you know 30% of the British muslims aged 18 think the sharia should be installed in the United Kingdom? What folly.
This even goes for Antwerp as well. Sure, there are fascists in Antwerp, but there are also lots of fundamentalist muslims, who actually managed to ban alcohol in certain streets. That's right, they threatened barkeepers. I, for one, will not allow my fundamental rights to be challenged because some idiotic muslim fundamentalist thinks I shouldn't drink beer. Perhaps muslims should think about things like these and be a wee bit critical towards other muslims instead of continuously defending their religion, which, just like other religions, offers an excuse for violence.
This even goes for Antwerp as well. Sure, there are fascists in Antwerp, but there are also lots of fundamentalist muslims, who actually managed to ban alcohol in certain streets. That's right, they threatened barkeepers. I, for one, will not allow my fundamental rights to be challenged because some idiotic muslim fundamentalist thinks I shouldn't drink beer. Perhaps muslims should think about things like these and be a wee bit critical towards other muslims instead of continuously defending their religion, which, just like other religions, offers an excuse for violence.
You got it right. It was not Moses' fault that pharoah killed all the new-born kids before he was even born!!
Do you want to pull a Bridget Bardo?
Quran is free of violence, but it tells you that if you're oppressed, you have to defend yourself. it would be a naive religion if it says that you can't defend yourself.
Please enlighten us...
And please tell me what you know about his life?
They won't go this approach if they are not annoyed to practice their religion freely wherever they are.
Do you want to pull a Bridget Bardo?
Quran is free of violence, but it tells you that if you're oppressed, you have to defend yourself. it would be a naive religion if it says that you can't defend yourself.
Please enlighten us...
And please tell me what you know about his life?
They won't go this approach if they are not annoyed to practice their religion freely wherever they are.
To say that 1% of Muslims are a problem is ridiculous. None of us are statisticians and none of us have any such at hand, but that number is ridiculous and you know it.
I want you to study the Qur'an and then come back to me and tell me how the Qur'an is violent. There are have been thousands and thousands of people who've studied it; people from all over the world and there are many that beg to differ. Then you study the life of Prophet Muhammad and tell one instance in which he was intolerant. I can go on and on about his treatment of non-Muslims and people in general. Do not take this the wrong way, I'm offering an open discussion. Just as long as you're respectful as I will be. I really hope you take me up on this. Of course I'm not an expert so I will try to answer as many questions as possible, the rest I will find out for you.
That's just the thing though Seven. I'm not sitting here protecting these Muslims. I'm simply protecting Islam. These people are so stupid they fail to realize simple rules. For instance, did you know that Islam says that you should abide by the rules of the country you live in?
I want you to study the Qur'an and then come back to me and tell me how the Qur'an is violent. There are have been thousands and thousands of people who've studied it; people from all over the world and there are many that beg to differ. Then you study the life of Prophet Muhammad and tell one instance in which he was intolerant. I can go on and on about his treatment of non-Muslims and people in general. Do not take this the wrong way, I'm offering an open discussion. Just as long as you're respectful as I will be. I really hope you take me up on this. Of course I'm not an expert so I will try to answer as many questions as possible, the rest I will find out for you.
That's just the thing though Seven. I'm not sitting here protecting these Muslims. I'm simply protecting Islam. These people are so stupid they fail to realize simple rules. For instance, did you know that Islam says that you should abide by the rules of the country you live in?
how much longer can this go on?all these thread end up going the same way, i already have a stonking headache and cannot be arsed to go through and read all the "discussions" from teh start.
if you cannot agree then leave it alone, i am not pointing fingers but we all know that some people will drag this on and on because they either want to piss everyone off or because they cannot get it into their thick skulls that religion is important to some people.
we all have views and religion is supposed to be about accepting and understanding others beliefs. no matter what you believe, what religion you follow, they all preach tolerance, even if they also think all the non-believers are going to hell for worshiping the wrong god.
but what i cannot understand is the insistence of people who think that religion is pointless getting their nose in everyone elses beliefs and ridiculing them.
this must stop now because i cannot be arsed with all of this....again. this happens every time and it only causes bad blood.
so either cut it out or me and the other mods may have to start sending folk away to cool down
if you cannot agree then leave it alone, i am not pointing fingers but we all know that some people will drag this on and on because they either want to piss everyone off or because they cannot get it into their thick skulls that religion is important to some people.
we all have views and religion is supposed to be about accepting and understanding others beliefs. no matter what you believe, what religion you follow, they all preach tolerance, even if they also think all the non-believers are going to hell for worshiping the wrong god.
but what i cannot understand is the insistence of people who think that religion is pointless getting their nose in everyone elses beliefs and ridiculing them.
this must stop now because i cannot be arsed with all of this....again. this happens every time and it only causes bad blood.
so either cut it out or me and the other mods may have to start sending folk away to cool down
Any of you people who continue arguing points against one another ARE EXTREMISTS. THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. I don't give a fuck who you are, this sort of banter regarding religion is simply idiotic and not beneficial to any community whatsoever. Seven loves to talk shit about religion, Tahir loves to defend Islam, Juve Revolution loves to protect Islam and his interests, Burke loves to try to defeat religion through banter. Who the fuck cares? NONE of you know the real truth, none of us ever will.
So please, do the world a favor and shut your motherfucking mouths, because none of you are doing us any justice. Especially to Seven, because he thinks he knows everything, but he is just a biased little twit who has the abilitiy to write well in English, so he believes he is a Moses in this discussion.
It's IDIOTS like SEVEN and other EXTREMISTS who BRING THIS WORLD DOWN. IF EVERYBODY WOULD BE OPEN TO CONTRASTING VIEWS, THIS WORLD WOULD NOT BE SO DISFUNCTIONAL AND TOLERANCE OF OTHER BELIEFS WOULD NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
But I suppose with all these imbeciles who think they're right, that cannot be achieved. An idiot such as SEVEN believes everything is clear cut to understand through science... but it isn't, you idiot. And you're not right because YOU HAVE NO SUBSTANTIAL PROOF. So just LIVE AND LET LIVE, you little motherfucking cunt.
I don't give a fuck about you, you don't give a fuck about me. That's the way it should be, because, if it was any other way, wars would be perpetually present.
So please, do the world a favor and shut your motherfucking mouths, because none of you are doing us any justice. Especially to Seven, because he thinks he knows everything, but he is just a biased little twit who has the abilitiy to write well in English, so he believes he is a Moses in this discussion.
It's IDIOTS like SEVEN and other EXTREMISTS who BRING THIS WORLD DOWN. IF EVERYBODY WOULD BE OPEN TO CONTRASTING VIEWS, THIS WORLD WOULD NOT BE SO DISFUNCTIONAL AND TOLERANCE OF OTHER BELIEFS WOULD NOT FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
But I suppose with all these imbeciles who think they're right, that cannot be achieved. An idiot such as SEVEN believes everything is clear cut to understand through science... but it isn't, you idiot. And you're not right because YOU HAVE NO SUBSTANTIAL PROOF. So just LIVE AND LET LIVE, you little motherfucking cunt.
I don't give a fuck about you, you don't give a fuck about me. That's the way it should be, because, if it was any other way, wars would be perpetually present.
I'm not going to lie, there are many motherfucking cunts on this forum. It's not just members of Islams, it's not just Seven, it's not just agnostics, it's not catholics. It's all of us, really. So that's why I think anybody who is so hardcore to insult beliefs of others is a goddamn piece of shit who should be killed. Yes, that is you, Andries. Because you, along with others, make this world less enjoyable to live in.
I don't care what anybody believes in... as long as it makes then happy and gives them peace.
I don't care what anybody believes in... as long as it makes then happy and gives them peace.
This might be a little difficult to understand, but people such as Seven are just like the Nazis. They believe one way of thinking is the bane of humanity and would like to put an end to it, just like Hitler towards the people who supposedly cost Germany momey, the Jews. We saw how beneficial that was to society. Whether you blow up planes or talk shit about people who believe in some faith, you are all extremists, as you are nothing more than biased imbeciles who perform the same tasks as those who you castigate.
Here's an idea... how about we all shut the fuck up and live. A world free of intolerance would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
And you are indeed intolerant, Andries. You hate religion. 'Nuff said.
Here's an idea... how about we all shut the fuck up and live. A world free of intolerance would be a good thing, wouldn't it?
And you are indeed intolerant, Andries. You hate religion. 'Nuff said.
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