That Cristiano Ronaldo! (1 Viewer)

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huuuuuh no had shit i guess !!!

man what ur talking about. he left football forever and he still a big savor for media. where is baggio when maradona was moving from cuba and athens and the whole world !!?

The whole fu**ing cameras on him why ?

is because he is that cheap or he is big fat ass as you said.. nah baby it cuz he is still the legend of football that can not be repeat for another century .
nah mate what are u talking about.

Maradona was talented no shit but as gray said, he was an idiot with it. And what good has he done since ?? Fack all.
 

Juve_The_Best

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Nov 18, 2004
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Or maybe its because its fun to watch people wash up and burn out?

And two words. George Best :D
its not burn out it was my comment about the talents and ppl can not understand .. they just like to convert !!


George Best

my ass he did not even call the most favorite player in man und cantona was the # 1 instead of he's not english. even in england Kevin Keegan better than him. better than a man live with new liver:down:
 

Respaul

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Not as much as in the EPL.
So your saying that ronaldo wouldnt go round serie a defenders as much as epl defenders (not that he does very often)....

Hmmm... have you anything to back up this train of thought.

I mean when you look at the facts...

Meetings between serie a teamss and epl teams in cl over past 10 years or 5 if you prefer.

Epl are well on top in results (either way)
The crap epl defenders have let in far less goals than the super serie a defenders.
The strikers that only look good cause they play in epl have scored far more against the serie a super defenders than the elite strikers of serie a have managed against the crap epl defenders.

So how exactly do you come to that conclusion.... ??


For the record imo ronaldo is incredibly overrated, hes a one trick pony, though he is talented and young so who knows
 

swag

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Good but he's no quaresma
I like C Ronaldo... more as a potent winger with good crosses than as any kind of forward.

But Quaresma is definitely someone who has caught my eye this season in particular. There's a quality player that hasn't been run over by the hype bandwagon just yet.
 

Bjerknes

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So your saying that ronaldo wouldnt go round serie a defenders as much as epl defenders (not that he does very often)....

Hmmm... have you anything to back up this train of thought.

I mean when you look at the facts...

Meetings between serie a teamss and epl teams in cl over past 10 years or 5 if you prefer.

Epl are well on top in results (either way)
The crap epl defenders have let in far less goals than the super serie a defenders.
The strikers that only look good cause they play in epl have scored far more against the serie a super defenders than the elite strikers of serie a have managed against the crap epl defenders.

So how exactly do you come to that conclusion.... ??


For the record imo ronaldo is incredibly overrated, hes a one trick pony, though he is talented and young so who knows
All of that is nonsense. If you think Rooney would set the Serie A ablaze, then so be it. I on the other hand do not think Rooney has the technical ability to become a world class striker. Of course you and your fellow Englishmen would disagree..
 

Bjerknes

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In serie , he has good awarenss thus could make the correct runs, however his often dreadfull final balls will make him a bit iffy in serie a.
Awareness? His positional sense is almost non-existent. Rooney is just a hustle and bustle forward with little technical ability, only relying on speed and a good shot to get the job done.
 

Respaul

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hold on.. when did i mention rooney, i couldnt give a toss about rooney or the epl for that matter... i asked a question that was all.

And what i wrote wasnt nonsense , it was fact.

Im asking you why you think he would struggle more against serie a defenders than epl defenders... when the facts say different, whether you like it or not, epl teams have scored more and conceded less against serie a teams.

You keep telling us how epl strikers couldnt score in serie a and that serie a defenders are so much better than epl defenders... but when they have come face to face the results have said the oposite... so please, i am asking why you think he would struggle more... Im genuinely intrested... Not interested in a stupid argument , jus genuine reasons
 

Bjerknes

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hold on.. when did i mention rooney, i couldnt give a toss about rooney or the epl for that matter... i asked a question that was all.

And what i wrote wasnt nonsense , it was fact.

Im asking you why you think he would struggle more against serie a defenders than epl defenders... when the facts say different, whether you like it or not, epl teams have scored more and conceded less against serie a teams.

You keep telling us how epl strikers couldnt score in serie a and that serie a defenders are so much better than epl defenders... but when they have come face to face the results have said the oposite... so please, i am asking why you think he would struggle more... Im genuinely intrested... Not interested in a stupid argument , jus genuine reasons
1. Rooney lacks positional sense and wherwithall. He lacks that killer positional instinct that great Serie A strikers have. Moreover, the Serie A is played at a slower pace, with more emphasis on technical albility rather than physical albility.

2. His touches, from what I have seen, have not been that good. Since the Serie A is played at a slower pace that demands good, quick touches around the box, he will not be that effective.

3. The defenses are more compact in Italy, and there will be less space for Rooney to blast through the opposition as he does in England. Remember, everything is slower, so that means Rooney will have to slow his game down too. I am not sure if he has the technical ablility to be effective when ball skills needed more than anything.

Remember when Robbie Keane played at Inter, and he was not very effective and struggled to cope with the tight marking? Same will happen to Rooney IMO. His style is not for the Serie A.
 
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Nicole

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    Ronaldo is SO overrated, I mean 19 year-olds regularly represent one of the best footballing nations in the world.

    As for Rooney, he isnt overrated! He was the best player at Euro2004, and his injury stop England winning Euro2004!
     

    mikhail

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    Remember when Robbie Keane played at Inter, and he was not very effective and struggled to cope with the tight marking? Same will happen to Rooney IMO. His style is not for the Serie A.
    For a start, you ignored Shadowfax's question. He already said he's not talking about Rooney and claiming that you don't have an answer to his statement - the EPL teams have consistantly scored more than they've conceded when playing Italian teams in Europe. Give that I've regularly read here that EPL goalkeepers, defenders and strikers truely suck, I can only infer that their midfielders are truely awesome. So, Ronaldo-bashing then...

    As for Keane, he played what, ten games? He's gone far longer than that in England without scoring, and he grew up in that football culture. From what I've read, it was his poor poistional awareness if anything that slowed him, and if he'd been given time, I think he would have corrected that.

    What exactly makes slowness a desirable quality in defenders? As brutish, uncouth Rooney sprints past them, will they defeat them with their slo-mo pinches, sly elbows to the ribs, etc.? Or will he score against the next Italian team Man U meet in Europe? What takes us neatly back to the point you've so suggestively ignored. Why do Italian teams get outscored by their far inferior EPL counterparts?
     
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    Nicole

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    What? Your trying to say that because Robbie Keane was rubbish at Inter is the reason why EPL is worst then Serie A? Well, Robbie Keane was 21, and given NO time whatsoever, actually mikhail, Keane only played 8 games. He was given no time to adapt, learn the language or get settled! How the hell can you use that as an argument?
     

    Seven

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    Not as much as in the EPL.
    To everyone who keeps on saying it's not that easy to dribble defenders in the Serie A as it is in other competitions, I would like to remind you of the goal Pandev scored against us. So if Zlatan or C. Ronaldo wouldn't manage to go past defenders in Italy, it's pretty much their fault.
     

    Seven

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    Remember when Robbie Keane played at Inter, and he was not very effective and struggled to cope with the tight marking? Same will happen to Rooney IMO. His style is not for the Serie A.
    You could have at least tried it with Henry. Then it would have made a little sense. Keane isn't even topclass in the EPL.
     
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    Nicole

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    with Henry, it has nothing to do with this argument, he flops in any game worth more then 3 points!
     

    Turdhead

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    1. Rooney lacks positional sense and wherwithall. He lacks that killer positional instinct that great Serie A strikers have. Moreover, the Serie A is played at a slower pace, with more emphasis on technical albility rather than physical albility.

    2. His touches, from what I have seen, have not been that good. Since the Serie A is played at a slower pace that demands good, quick touches around the box, he will not be that effective.

    Remember when Robbie Keane played at Inter, and he was not very effective and struggled to cope with the tight marking? Same will happen to Rooney IMO. His style is not for the Serie A.
    Thats about the biggest load of crap ive ever read :howler:

    And comparing him to Robbie Keane? If thats the best you got :howler:
     
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    Nicole

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    for someone who doesnt like football claire, you certainly talk about it alot! :p
     
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    Nicole

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    huh? for some reason i though you didnt, or at least thats what i though...? so who do you like then teams?
     

    Bjerknes

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    You could have at least tried it with Henry. Then it would have made a little sense. Keane isn't even topclass in the EPL.
    However, both Keane and Rooney are hustle and bustle forwards, that is why I used that comparison.
     

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