That Cristiano Ronaldo! (1 Viewer)

[Tom]

++ [ originally posted by Blandest ] ++
What about that time MU came from behind to can your asses?

we were.. erm.. concentrating on the Italian cup? :nervous:

 

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[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
We hardly made them look horrid. They dominated from start to finish, missed several good chances, Carini pulled off one of the best penalty saves I've ever seen..

but DAMN maresca was good in that game.. the only game I've seen him and actually believed he could be something... was it that game he skinned three arsenal defenders and nearly scored.. oh damn its getting depressing :frown:

They did not dominate shit. Arsenal looked lackluster in attack and threw away all their chances. They had the better run of play, however that is expected with a reserve team out there.

Yeah, Maresca went past three defenders on the left of the box and hit a left-footed shot that nearly went in. I thought for sure he was going to be our next playmaker. I still want him back now. :frown:

 

[Tom]

Well they dominated from where I sat, but as you said that was expected with them having their first team out there. I also remember Davids completely neutralising Vieira which was funny since he is "the best central midfielder in the world"

Maresca, Brighi all that promise for jack. Whats going to happen with Chiellini, whats going to happen to all these superb youth team players that keep winning the Viareggio tournament every year?

Our under 10's team probably has more creativity than our first team right now but we're always so damn reluctant to give any of them a shot!

 

[Bjerknes]

The matches I have seen Maresca play this year with Fiorentina makes me wonder why we gave him away. His passing skills are amazing, especially when he sprays the ball down the wing a la Lampard. He is one of the best playmaking midfielders in Italy, so we should not give up on him yet. The only weakness I saw with him is his defensive skills, but that can be worked on..

 

[Seven]

I'm pretty sure we let Maresca go with a reason.

 

[Respaul]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


I do not know if I can answer that. I think most of the time the goals came against Inter and Roma, not Juventus and Milan.

Not exactly.. but we will come back to that.

The two former clubs have played horrid in the CL over the past few seasons, since 2002, and lost by rather humiliating margins like 5-1 at the San Siro. English clubs tore them apart, and Man United beat us soundly when we were flu-stricken.

Im sorry but the idea that roma and inter dont count cause they have been bad in cl is rubbish... they represent serie a... you cant pick your teams.
Plus so many times you have said dial are rubbish cause they havent performed in cl... no double standards here, my friend.
Flu stricken... purleeze... no excuse, shall we pull out injuries as well... get real!

Its interesting how some of th reasons you give for why epl teams are rubbish you now highlight as excuses for serie a sides.

If you would take Juventus and Milan and Arsenal and Man United, you would find a different story. The former has not even been past the Quarterfinals, so they might not even count in the discussion.

Ok.. we will get as near to that as possible... its dificult to show worthwhile results using direct head to heads between the 4 clubs you mentioned as there havent really been enough (though for your info.. epl comes out on top).
So we need to look at each team individually against teams from the other league.

eg. manu - serie a , milan - epl, juve - epl, dial - serie a.

So what does that give us??


Milan Vs EPL 4 Matches : 3 Draws & 1 Loss , 2 Goals for & 3 Against

Juve Vs EPL 12 Matches : 5 Wins, 6 Losses & 1 Draw , 13 goals for & 17 Against

Dial Vs Serie A 10 Matches : 4 Wins, 3 Losses & 3 Draws, 15 goals for & 10 Against

Manu Vs Serie A 12 Matches : 6 Wins, 4 Losses & 2 Draws, 18 goals for & 13 Against


So that means games involving your chosen team have resulted in :


Between the serie A teams they have made : 5 Wins, 7 Losses and 4 draws
Scoring 15 and coceding 20

The EPL teams have made : 10 wins, 7 losses and 5 draws. Scoring 33 and conceding 23


Anyway as for the old which league is better routine... isnt it about time you realised there is no answer, one is not better than the other, they are jus different and its jus a matter of which you prefer... personally i pick serie a everytime but i do not feal its better, it jus fulfills my own personal requirements better.

 

[Turdhead]

I dont even like you, but I have to say your a pretty good geetar picker

 

[Zlatan]

You are spending waaay too much time her Blandie, you have more posts per day than I do, and I'm at 12k. Loser

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
Im sorry but the idea that roma and inter dont count cause they have been bad in cl is rubbish... they represent serie a... you cant pick your teams.
Plus so many times you have said dial are rubbish cause they havent performed in cl... no double standards here, my friend.
Flu stricken... purleeze... no excuse, shall we pull out injuries as well... get real!

Of course they cannot be used as excuses, as we still lost, however you cannot deny that the sickness affected the team. It was obvious that there was something wrong with the side, especially when Nedved did not seem with it on the pitch and looked lackluster, hardly trying his best. But again, we lost and their are no excuses. We still made the CL Final..

Anyway as for the old which league is better routine... isnt it about time you realised there is no answer, one is not better than the other, they are jus different and its jus a matter of which you prefer... personally i pick serie a everytime but i do not feal its better, it jus fulfills my own personal requirements better.

Of course there is no real answer. I have stated that La liga, the EPL, and Serie A are all in the same class, being the top three leagues in the world. There is no way to tell which one is the best, and it's just a matter of personal opinion. However, I still think that the EPL is overrated, especially in my country.

 

[Stu]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
The matches I have seen Maresca play this year with Fiorentina makes me wonder why we gave him away. His passing skills are amazing, especially when he sprays the ball down the wing a la Lampard. He is one of the best playmaking midfielders in Italy, so we should not give up on him yet. The only weakness I saw with him is his defensive skills, but that can be worked on..

I've been saying the same for some time now. Giving away Maresca was a huge mistake as he was one of the only central midfielders in this Juve squad with good passing skills and creativity. He'd form a great partnership with Emerson imo.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


I've been saying the same for some time now. Giving away Maresca was a huge mistake as he was one of the only central midfielders in this Juve squad with good passing skills and creativity. He'd form a great partnership with Emerson imo.

I suppose with Lippi not giving him a full go of it last year, combined with Capello's insistence on playing two pure defensive midfielders, Maresca was always going to be shipped out. Stupid decisions on the part of all fronts.

 

[Fred]

actually i think that Cristiano Ronaldo is overrated,yes he is a promising talent and he looks like he has a bright future ahead of him,and its not everyday you see a 19 year old representing one of the strongest national teams in europe constantly.but to rank him as 12th best player in the world,over Wingers who are clearly superior to him like Ljungberg,Reyes,Giggs,Vicente,Joaquin,Robben,Ze Roberto and Duff is overrating him.

as for Rooney he's a great player,he proved that in Euro 2004 and he's already one of Man utd's best players,as much as i hate his arrogance and his guts but i cant deny the kids got talent,in my eyes he's the most proven youngster in Europe.

 

[flieeeekke]

andy, you should stay away from any epl discussion from now on. as you americans say, you were owned.

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


I do not know if I can answer that. I think most of the time the goals came against Inter and Roma, not Juventus and Milan. The two former clubs have played horrid in the CL over the past few seasons, since 2002, and lost by rather humiliating margins like 5-1 at the San Siro. English clubs tore them apart, and Man United beat us soundly when we were flu-stricken. If you would take Juventus and Milan and Arsenal and Man United, you would find a different story. The former has not even been past the Quarterfinals, so they might not even count in the discussion.

hey cant blame roma. we were flu stricken against man u, but totti couldnt show whats he capable of against english teams because his nike boots sucked

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++
andy, you should stay away from any epl discussion from now on. as you americans say, you were owned.

How was I owned at all? Go be worthless and drink some more you Lithuanian.

Learn how to read before you join a forum.

 

[Bjerknes]

So, I was wrong about EPL clubs vs. Italian clubs. However, that does not change the fact that Serie A clubs have played in 10 and won 6 of the last 15 Champions League Finals, while English sides have only been to one Final in the last 15 years. That is rather pathetic if you ask me. Sure, English clubs have the better record against the Serie A, however when it comes down to it they cannot get the job done. Who cares who beats who, the only thing that matters is who reached the Final. All of this also does not change my view that the EPL is grossly overrated in my country and others.

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


How was I owned at all? Go be worthless and drink some more you Lithuanian.

Learn how to read before you join a forum.

now wonder you date burke. insults based on nationality are so totally cool.

 

[Nicole]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++

Do you have anything to bak that up?

Have you ever seen Rooney play? He has no positional sense whatsoever.

andy, for once give me a serious answer, tell me have YOU ever seen Rooney play? or do you read newspaper and think he hasnt played well? do you know how many goals he has this season? do you know if Man Utd fans have been happy with the fact we brought him?

1. Rooney has VERY good positional play, and the example of Keane is completely wrong because they arent similar at all. A better example, in terms of style of play, would be Kaka/Scholes. He is more of a goal-scorer and less creative then Scholes is, but still very good.

2. He has played very well, especially recently he has 12 goals this season, despite have a broken leg and missing the first 2 months.

Andy, talk about something you actually know about! Its embarrasing!

 

[mikhail]

++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++
...the example of Keane is completely wrong because they arent similar at all. A better example, in terms of style of play, would be Kaka/Scholes. He is more of a goal-scorer and less creative then Scholes is, but still very good.

I'd tend to agree with that - Rooney's all about power and positioning, Keane's all tricks and unpredictability. Yes, they could both be described as bustlers, but that's not the same as saying they're very similar players.

 

[Nicole]

I think there is this undeserved prejudice against Rooney, everyone thinks he is the kind of player who does nothing for the team and is only there to score goals, and they know nothing about his style of player, he'd be more considered a play-maker anywhere else in the world, but that words isnt used so much in the UK.