I don't understand certain people, they come into a thread called techno trance and house, and they trash one of the genre's. If you don't understand it thats your problem and your loss.
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and tbh, its a thread to appreciate that kind of music, whats the point of just causing an argument over it.
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Shows how biased you are. That guy does EXACTLY what you've been bashing here - making weird sounds. But somehow because he plays in a band in the genre you like, he suddenly becomes "skilled".
The funny thing is that you can level rock music (which you obviously consider superior to electronical music) in just the same way. Which brilliant spectrum of emotions does a band like RATM enlighten upon the listener? You just have to face the fact that rock is very similar to any type of electronical music. They're both very one-dimensional genres, in which the way it sounds (the shape) is more important than what is actually played, the melodies/harmonies (the content). Ever tried playing a RATM riff on piano? If not I suggest you do, then you may realize how stupid it sounds if you look at it from a musical viewpoint.
I'm not trying to bash either rock or electronical music, I can enjoy both and listen to both often. I just find it really, really annoying that almost all rock fans think their genre is superior to electronical music, when in reality they are just about equal in musical quality.
I can give you dozens of names of guitar players who are way more underrated by the main public than Van Halen, but you probably wouldn't know them.
And comparing him to Kurt Cobain is just pointless, since he's a singer in the first place. He didn't become famous by just being a great guitar player like Van Halen. Plus the fact that the shred type of music Van Halen makes just isn't accessible to the main crowd. Almost all big Van Halen fans are guitar players (I bet you are one too) who judge his music from a mere technical viewpoint.
Oh really? I just call it "wanking with a tremelo". He wrote pretty good riffs, but his solos are freaking terrible. And yet again very ironical that you like THIS GUY's nonmelodical sounds, which again come down to the same thing as the sounds in a lot of electronical music acts.
The phrase I put in bold all sums it up. This is just embarrassing really. Do some wikipedia research or something.
To sum it all up, you're just biased. And instead of acknowleding it, I expect you to come up with more biased arguments.
The funny thing is that you can level rock music (which you obviously consider superior to electronical music) in just the same way. Which brilliant spectrum of emotions does a band like RATM enlighten upon the listener? You just have to face the fact that rock is very similar to any type of electronical music. They're both very one-dimensional genres, in which the way it sounds (the shape) is more important than what is actually played, the melodies/harmonies (the content). Ever tried playing a RATM riff on piano? If not I suggest you do, then you may realize how stupid it sounds if you look at it from a musical viewpoint.
I'm not trying to bash either rock or electronical music, I can enjoy both and listen to both often. I just find it really, really annoying that almost all rock fans think their genre is superior to electronical music, when in reality they are just about equal in musical quality.
I can give you dozens of names of guitar players who are way more underrated by the main public than Van Halen, but you probably wouldn't know them.
And comparing him to Kurt Cobain is just pointless, since he's a singer in the first place. He didn't become famous by just being a great guitar player like Van Halen. Plus the fact that the shred type of music Van Halen makes just isn't accessible to the main crowd. Almost all big Van Halen fans are guitar players (I bet you are one too) who judge his music from a mere technical viewpoint.Oh really? I just call it "wanking with a tremelo". He wrote pretty good riffs, but his solos are freaking terrible. And yet again very ironical that you like THIS GUY's nonmelodical sounds, which again come down to the same thing as the sounds in a lot of electronical music acts.
The phrase I put in bold all sums it up. This is just embarrassing really. Do some wikipedia research or something.
To sum it all up, you're just biased. And instead of acknowleding it, I expect you to come up with more biased arguments.
don't know why but i had the feeling that you would you use him as an example of a dj you don't hate that much.
I on the other hand hate that guy and don't understand how people can listen to him, but then again that's just me.
as for trance i would say that that is genre of electronic music i don't appreciate at all.
Shows how biased you are. That guy does EXACTLY what you've been bashing here - making weird sounds. But somehow because he plays in a band in the genre you like, he suddenly becomes "skilled".
The funny thing is that you can level rock music (which you obviously consider superior to electronical music) in just the same way. Which brilliant spectrum of emotions does a band like RATM enlighten upon the listener? You just have to face the fact that rock is very similar to any type of electronical music. They're both very one-dimensional genres, in which the way it sounds (the shape) is more important than what is actually played, the melodies/harmonies (the content). Ever tried playing a RATM riff on piano? If not I suggest you do, then you may realize how stupid it sounds if you look at it from a musical viewpoint.
I'm not trying to bash either rock or electronical music, I can enjoy both and listen to both often. I just find it really, really annoying that almost all rock fans think their genre is superior to electronical music, when in reality they are just about equal in musical quality.
I can give you dozens of names of guitar players who are way more underrated by the main public than Van Halen, but you probably wouldn't know them. And comparing him to Kurt Cobain is just pointless, since he's a singer in the first place. He didn't become famous by just being a great guitar player like Van Halen. Plus the fact that the shred type of music Van Halen makes just isn't accessible to the main crowd. Almost all big Van Halen fans are guitar players (I bet you are one too) who judge his music from a mere technical viewpoint.
Oh really? I just call it "wanking with a tremelo". He wrote pretty good riffs, but his solos are freaking terrible. And yet again very ironical that you like THIS GUY's nonmelodical sounds, which again come down to the same thing as the sounds in a lot of electronical music acts.
The phrase I put in bold all sums it up. This is just embarrassing really. Do some wikipedia research or something.
To sum it all up, you're just biased. And instead of acknowleding it, I expect you to come up with more biased arguments.
The funny thing is that you can level rock music (which you obviously consider superior to electronical music) in just the same way. Which brilliant spectrum of emotions does a band like RATM enlighten upon the listener? You just have to face the fact that rock is very similar to any type of electronical music. They're both very one-dimensional genres, in which the way it sounds (the shape) is more important than what is actually played, the melodies/harmonies (the content). Ever tried playing a RATM riff on piano? If not I suggest you do, then you may realize how stupid it sounds if you look at it from a musical viewpoint.
I'm not trying to bash either rock or electronical music, I can enjoy both and listen to both often. I just find it really, really annoying that almost all rock fans think their genre is superior to electronical music, when in reality they are just about equal in musical quality.
I can give you dozens of names of guitar players who are way more underrated by the main public than Van Halen, but you probably wouldn't know them.
And comparing him to Kurt Cobain is just pointless, since he's a singer in the first place. He didn't become famous by just being a great guitar player like Van Halen. Plus the fact that the shred type of music Van Halen makes just isn't accessible to the main crowd. Almost all big Van Halen fans are guitar players (I bet you are one too) who judge his music from a mere technical viewpoint.Oh really? I just call it "wanking with a tremelo". He wrote pretty good riffs, but his solos are freaking terrible. And yet again very ironical that you like THIS GUY's nonmelodical sounds, which again come down to the same thing as the sounds in a lot of electronical music acts.
The phrase I put in bold all sums it up. This is just embarrassing really. Do some wikipedia research or something.
To sum it all up, you're just biased. And instead of acknowleding it, I expect you to come up with more biased arguments.
I will not play a RATM riff on a piano just for the mere fact its a wholly entire different thing. There are certain wonders that can be made with certain instruments and thats what makes them special. The main reason why there would be an orchestra instead of a single piano to play an entire score.
What i quoted in bold is something i've realised a long time ago. Disappointing really in the sense there are so many incredible underground bands who are known to noone when someone like Ashley Simpson who cant even sing for fucks reaches multi platinum status on her debut album. Too bad i'm not entitled to blame nor ask everyone in the world to learn some music just so they can appreciate music in what i think is the most appropriate kind of way. Perhaps that is also the same reason i'm unable to appreciate electro because i myself is not educated in such a way.
To say Morello's work as terrible is your opinion. And i will not disregard it in a sarcastic way like some people would. I respect that. However I find the "wanking in a tremolo" is a major breakthrough in the sense that somehow a turntable screech finally has a tune to it. So its not really non melodical as it goes with a rhythm. And with the wrong chords, it just doesnt sound right. Unlike a DJ who can screech all they want without worrying about mistakes. Thats just me, i appreciate it. And i will not prove your opinion differently.
Just something I would like for you to know is the true reason behind my love for RATM and many other bands of the past is the fact that they are true to themselves. Which I believe everyone should. Speak out what they truly want and not be afraid about the feedbacks. Likewise to the forums where i would challenge your opinions and I'm glad to have a constructive debate where you could prove me doubtful in many senses. But then again we are just humans and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Unlike someone like Bon Jovi who would have thousands of girls crying over him, willing to die for him and obviously he fucks around with his own opportunity to become a playboy. Thats what i call a hypocrite when he keeps on singing about his undying love over one female. And i truly disrespect this sort of person.
The fact that i have no idea about punk rock i will not ever be embaressed about it. Afterall i'm educated in these times and have already develop a hatred towards that genre (thanks to Blink and Simple Plan etc) thus am not even willing to take the initiative to wiki about it. Before punk reaches mainstream i admit i have ZERO knowledge about them. And their drum beats are just gay.
Last but not least, i will admit i am bias again. And thanks to your argument i believe i do not have the rights to post in this thread again. This place is for electro lovers and obviously i am not lol. Anyhow, you have lots of my respect after your post and am looking forward to many more interesting stuff you will be writing in the future. Not concerning our clashes of opinion but instead on the things that matters most in this forum. Juventus. Good luck to all of us
I've read it, and your right. Trust me, dj's DO worry about mistakes, and screetching around as you put it is more for hip hop dj's anyway, here its more about creating a 2 3 or 4 hour masterpiece, seamlessly intermingled from 20, 30 tracks, creating such a wonderful atmosphere and sound that takes you away to a better place. Possibly by using up to 4 turntables but there's no talent there obviously! :bum:
Who cares if you have to spend 1 week trying to find the perfect beat and mix, its just on a computer.
Plus Tiesto is probably one of the most commercial deejays around, in fact his 'best' songs are the ones that aren't really launched, such as Your loving Arms, which is a relaxed song.
Imo its just as if not harder for a dj to create a great 1 or 2 hour set than for a band to create a song.
Plus Tiesto is probably one of the most commercial deejays around, in fact his 'best' songs are the ones that aren't really launched, such as Your loving Arms, which is a relaxed song.
Imo its just as if not harder for a dj to create a great 1 or 2 hour set than for a band to create a song.
I dont think you really have any business discussing music in general. If Rage Against The Machine, Green Day, Blink 182, and Simple Plan are the examples you've chosen to make your points then we all have assume you don't know much about music in general.
Let's be honest here, you were trolling for a fight. And by the way Slipknot is total dog shack.
Let's be honest here, you were trolling for a fight. And by the way Slipknot is total dog shack.