Tactics and Formations (52 Viewers)

[Stephan]

Yes, it's kind of interesting how those english teams will end up in CL with 3 center backs: Chelsea, City, Tottenham (sometimes), Arsenal (in EL )

TBF to City they have average defenders so they almost are forced to play extra defender to add more wall in the back of their leaky defense.

Chelsea migh be the only one to actually do well with it if Morata ends up scoring those big game goals for them.

Tottenham are not going to do anything. Overrated and hyped team which plays some nice football in epl but fcks it up in europe. I wouldnt be surprised if Real humiliates them in this group. Arsenal can play what they want, they arent contenders of anything these days.

 

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[DAiDEViL]

We struggled years with the 3-5-2 system in the CL. I really dont think adding extra CB is going to improve anything.

We struggled with the 352 because it offered zero width and it left the opposing LB and RB unmarked. not the case with the 343/3421 where you can double the wings.

And you also underestimate Pjanic's defensive contribution if you think Matuidi would have to do all the dirty work. Pjanic matured a lot in that regard since joining us.

 

[Hust]

How can a 352 offer zero width? You literally are squeezing wingbacks to the line

 

[MikeM]

Sturaro-Rugani-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Pjanic
Bernardeschi-----Matuidi
Cuadrado---------------------------Costa
Dybala​

 

[Hust]

We want Bern as a CM and stu as a RB?

 

[dolph]

Howedes-Rugani-Chiellini
Cuadrado-Pjanic-Matuidi-AS
Costa-Dybala-Berna

Could be a very interesting formation to try out. Having 3 CB would hopefully also mean that Mandzu does not have to play for his contribution on defensive setplayes.

 

[DAiDEViL]

How can a 352 offer zero width? You literally are squeezing wingbacks to the line

They are busy defending wingers, barely get out of their own half and you are left with 3 CM's and 2 strikers, that's why. It's almost like you didn't watch us play.

 

[Hust]

They are busy defending wingers, barely get out of their own half and you are left with 3 CM's and 2 strikers, that's why. It's almost like you didn't watch us play.

I think you're watching Juventus Bucharest not Juventus Turin

 

[Nedved96]

Lichtsteiner - Rugani - Chiellini - Sandro
Pjanic - Matuidi
Cuadrado - Dybala - Costa
Mandzukic​

I believe that Max is coming close to finding his best 11. Obviously Higuain would probably go in there over Mandzu, but he's in bad form right now.

Lichtsteiner - Rugani - Chiellini - Sandro
Pjanic - Matuidi - Bernardeschi
Cuadrado - Dybala - Costa​

I would really like to see us try this formation. Dybala as a 9 (like he was at Palermo) with two fast wingers on either side of him; and Bernardeschi as the most advanced of a 3 man midfield, carrying the ball to our attack.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Eventually hoping we are adaptable enough that we can do this

Sciglio - Rugani - Chiellini - Sandro
Pjanic - Matuidi
Cuadrado - Dybala - Mandzukic
Higuain

Sciglio - Rugani - Chiellini - Sandro
Pjanic - Matuidi - Khedira
Dybala - Higuain - Costa


Barzagli - Rugani - Chiellini
Cuadrado - Matuidi - Pjanic - Sandro
Dybala - Mandzukic - Costa​

And finally, this is a slightly interesting one but against softer teams, an aggressive 4-2-2-2 might work really well.

Sciglio - Rugani - Chiellini - Sandro
Pjanic - Matuidi
Bernardeschi - Costa
Dybala - Higuain/Mandzukic​

 

[Tak!]

I have never seen a more technically gifted Juventus than this year. I have seen different eras with different qualities, all bringing joyful memories. But I have never seen a Juventus with so many players that can beat their man. I like this team, but it will take some time to get used to.

Neither can I recall ever watching a Juventus side with so many Brazilians. Really like this squad although we obviously lack a RB. Let's hope DS returns to his younger/national-self. Not expecting him to shine but would be OK if he at least could hold his ground. Only time will tell if Matuidi is the destroyer we needed this year, so far so good.

Regarding tactics I am open to any formation. I would for each game choose players based on form and fatigue after that go for compatibility, then see where the formation lands. We have so many options this year, great step forward.

 

[edgardavids2608]

I think you're watching Juventus Bucharest not Juventus Turin

You are wrong. In the 3-5-2 we were constantly pinned back against the better teams in europe and our "width" were in our box way to much. We lost our wide outlet when we won the ball. When we controlled the game they provided good width to us but at least during the conte era we rarely controlled any european game

 

[Hust]

Only 14 days later

 

[Nedved96]

We desperately need midfielders with ball retention. Apart from Pjanic, none of our midfielders have it. Meanwhile Real Madrid have Isco, Modric, Kroos, Kovacic and Cellabos.

No wonder we got steamrolled in the final.

Another idea would be to play Bernardeschi in the most advanced role of a 3 man midfield.

 

[Hust]

We desperately need midfielders with ball retention. Apart from Pjanic, none of our midfielders have it. Meanwhile Real Madrid have Isco, Modric, Kroos, Kovacic and Cellabos.

No wonder we got steamrolled in the final.

Another idea would be to play Bernardeschi in the most advanced role of a 3 man midfield.

wat?

Bencantur has been very good. Matuidi has like high 80s or 90s with pass %.

 

[Nedved96]

wat?

Bencantur has been very good. Matuidi has like high 80s or 90s with pass %.

Perhaps ball retention was the wrong word and should be replaced with creativity. We really don't have much of it in our midfield apart from Pjanic and the rare occasion Marchisio is fit these days. Bentancur plays some nice passes but he's no Pjanic yet. This is why I've been screaming to make Bernardeschi a permanent starter as the most attacking midfielder in a 3 man midfield (like Iniesta or Zidane).

Dybala's first touch is inconsistent, he cannot play with his back to goal, and he's not strong enough on the ball to play as AM. Dybala however is probably the best finisher we have in our team right now, so he should be playing as close to goal as possible. Dybala should play only as SS, ST, or inside RW. Nothing else. Bernas first touch is consistent and unlike Dybala he had the physicality and workfare to play in midfield. However, he's not as good as Dybala at scoring goals, so Berna should be the one supplying Dybala (not the other way around).

Costa - Higuain - Dybala
Berna - Pjanic - Matuidi​

Or play a diamond:

Higuain - Dybala
Berna
Matuidi - Pjanic - Marchisio​

 

[IliveForJuve]

352

Buffon
Barzagli - Rugani - Chiello
Cuadrado - Pjanic - Bentancur/Matuidi - Bernardeschi - Sandro
Dybala - Higgy​

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343

Buffon
Barzagli - Rugani - Chiello
Cuadrado - Pjanic - Matuidi - Sandro
Bernardeschi - Dybala - Douglas Costa​

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4411

Buffon
Licht - Rugani - Chiello - Sandro
Cuadrado - Pjanic - Matuidi - DC/Berna
Dybala
Higuaín​

 

[Siamak]

Formation: 3412
Barzagli Rugani Chiellini
Cuad Marchisio Bentancur Sandro
Pjanic
Dybala Mandzukic
Or
Barzagli Rugani Chiellini
Berna Marchisio Matuidi Alex Sandro
Pjanic
Dybala Higuain

Formation: 4 2 3 1
Higuain
Mandzu-Dybala-Cuadrado
Matuidi-Pjanic
Sandro-Chiellini-Barzagli-Sturaro

 

[duranfj]

Stu isn't a MF, he's our starter RB

 

[Wittl]

4-2-2-1 ?

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Ok tbh this is actually the formation we play, when Higuain starts. It's a 4-2-3 then.