Tactics and Formations (22 Viewers)

Red

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Janna said:
one dutch commentary said a few years ago how bad players now a days are unable to beat their man and to cross a decent ball. I have to admit that he is right. It is unacceptable that players who play for juve or any other club in europe and they can't even put one good cross a game. :shifty:

4-3-3 is a great system to play such a system, but many managers now a day put players who are left at the rightwinger place so they can cut in and get danger. etc.

when juve played 4-3-3 last year vucinic barely crossed the ball to matri, Pepe did that as only. now we play 3-5-2 and you see more crosses coming but not from the backline (which in my eyes are the most dangerous. Crosses from around the 16m box are not that hard to defend cos as a defender you see the ball coming right at you.
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Agreed.

Aberdeen's 4-3-3 primarily works because we've got a player who is a classic winger capable crossing consistently well:


He also gets two or three opposition players booked every game, because players have forgotten how to defend against someone attacking you on the outside, so they just hack him down instead.

Deep C said:
4-3-3 really isn't optimal for playing a crossing game. At least not a traditional crossing game. The lone forward will get isolated with two centre backs. It probably only works if you've got a heading threat making runs from midfield OFTEN.

4-3-3 with inside forwards works because the cut in from width with a fullback overlapping coupled with the CF running the cross can pull a 4 man defense laterally big time and their defenders have to be totally on the ball and decently fast.
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I like a version of 4-3-3 that is in between the two options you mention.

On one side you have a classic winger who goes on the outside. Behind him you have a pretty defensive fullback, because an attacking one would just make things more crowded and make it harder to get the winger one-on-one with the opposing fullback.

On the other side, I'd look for a SS or inside looking winger type, who is there to drift inside so that the CF doesn't get too isolated. I'd play an attacking fullback behind him to take advantage of the space he leaves when he drifts inside.
 
Bezzy

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Red said:
Agreed.

Aberdeen's 4-3-3 primarily works because we've got a player who is a classic winger capable crossing consistently well:


He also gets two or three opposition players booked every game, because players have forgotten how to defend against someone attacking you on the outside, so they just hack him down instead.



I like a version of 4-3-3 that is in between the two options you mention.

On one side you have a classic winger who goes on the outside. Behind him you have a pretty defensive fullback, because an attacking one would just make things more crowded and make it harder to get the winger one-on-one with the opposing fullback.

On the other side, I'd look for a SS or inside looking winger type, who is there to drift inside so that the CF doesn't get too isolated. I'd play an attacking fullback behind him to take advantage of the space he leaves when he drifts inside.
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exactly
that goal is almost like going into the past :)
 
Bjerknes

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If you have quality players in every position who fit the positions handed to them, the system does not always matter. If somehow Moratta adds a quality striker next season who knows how to find net, great. Perhaps the side will be more adept in European matches where you need to take every chance you get. But if you're using players out of position in a system just to field a system, you might need to rethink that; maximizing your player potential is more beneficial than imposing a standard system.
 
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