Been fukin yelling for 4-2-3-1..we needed two stoppers in Bayern game...some people here argued against it. Pogba on wing? How is that better than playing him behind a single striker mandzu? Or Dybala on the wing where he could basically contribute same as he did.. Max fuked this one up didn't work defensively...sturaro should have started next to marchisio as stopper in front of the CBs...
Though I can agree to a certain point, this game was more about lack of attitude rather than tactical formation. Once we started to play with attitude, putting our presence out there, we started to turn the game. Pogba seemed to play behind the strikers in a roaming role towards the end and, as you said in your earlier post, disrupt their game.
Despite all the errors I can certainly understand why Allegri wanted to have two "wingers" today. Considering that Bayern do attack a lot from the wings and have world class players out wide. He probably wanted someone to help our full backs. Leaving them alone for 90 minutes I think things would have been much worse. Would he tell the Bonbon and Barza to be prepared to help them out a lot more than usual would allow space in the middle - and for us to fall into Pep's trap. So I do understand why Allegri would start out as we did and when I saw the line up I can honestly say that I thought it made a lot of sense. I agreed. What I certainly lacked, however, was some bloody guts by our players and as I wrote above, to show and demand their presence. Dybala worked a little bit but was more or less useless. Buffon did all he could. The only one I could see that wanted something was Pogba. I saw many spilled hate on him in the live thread but to me he was the only one who wanted to the ball and wanted to do something constructive with it. And every time he received it he had three choices. 1) pass to back to centre back who just gave it to him, 2) search a pass for Lichsteiner far out wide or 3) dribble. Normally, you should have a lot more options than that. There should be another option to pass another MIDFIELDER or ATTACKER but since everyone was hiding this was never - ever - possible.
After our first goal, and much thanks to our fans cheering and supporting - drilling some confidence into our players along with the goal - we finally started to want the ball. And this hurts a lot to write but I have no idea where the heck Marchisio and Khedira was when we tried to start from the back. Sure - they were marked - but that means you have to move around if you want to mark your presence in the game. This was not the case and instead Hernanes came in and wanted to have the ball. He didn't put on a brilliant performance or anything but he wanted to play football. Based on that I would rather conclude that it was an issue of attitude rather than tactical erroneous decisions.
Sorry for long post and this is just my opinion. And although I agree in retrospect that Sturaro perhaps should have started, I would have disagreed with Allegri, at that point in time, if he had selected Sturaro to start.
Now then... it will be really interesting to see how we approach Bayern away - a real headache. I am way too tired to give constructive suggestions on how to approach but I do think that you may be on to something with 4-3-1-2 and let Pogba link and pressure more early. Will be hard to keep intensive pressure, as we did now in second half, for 90 minutes knowing that even with high pressure and luck scoring two goals. It would still be fairly reasonable to see the game then go to over time. So we will have to select our opportunities better and be smarted when to close down and when to fall back. In the first half we only fell back and we saw what will happen if we do that again. So I think I wouldn't discourage falling back but push the team a lot more to close down when the opportunity arises (and there were several but we were simply too scared).
... I am way to tired and am not making anymore sense. Sorry, again, for long post. g'night
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but hell even 4312 with pogba at the one spot is better
