It's not the first time they come up with this shit and none of them was without ''blessing'' of usa. Since there was no way they could gain support, they choose to scare them by killing.
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it looks more like a staged plan to increase his popularity within and abroad, rather than a stupid, pointless coup attempt, against the will of the Turkish ppl.Its just doesnt make any sense, the generals never stood a chance, every allied country would help the Turkish ppl to restore Erdogan, democracy and stability!
Like they did before in 1908, 1960, 1971, 1980 and 1997?
In 97, they did not even need to do this much. Tanks were in moving in only one street and all they had to do was forcing government to resign and accept their decisions on social policies by talking(threatening). It was called ''post-modern coup'' which you don't need to kill and arrest thousands or even don't need to take control but only give control to a puppet prime minister not elected but appointed, doing your bidding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Turkish_military_memorandum
In 97, they did not even need to do this much. Tanks were in moving in only one street and all they had to do was forcing government to resign and accept their decisions on social policies by talking(threatening). It was called ''post-modern coup'' which you don't need to kill and arrest thousands or even don't need to take control but only give control to a puppet prime minister not elected but appointed, doing your bidding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Turkish_military_memorandum
Isnt this what the USA does for living?
If thats the case, it has their trademark signature all over it!
PS: who and why would spread the rumors that Erdogan was denied to run into Germany, what would they gain from it? I just dont get that part and its important because the western media was happy to reproduce it.
If thats the case, it has their trademark signature all over it!
PS: who and why would spread the rumors that Erdogan was denied to run into Germany, what would they gain from it? I just dont get that part and its important because the western media was happy to reproduce it.
I don't see any scenario where such a coup would benefit anyone but Erdogan. And the way it was handled from start to finish can only help to support that.
Now I don't know what's scarier at this point, a president who's willing to go this far for his claim on country or a country that is already divided and torn by ethnicity tensions while fighting two failed wars sticking to such a president.
This has Syria 2011/2012 dejavu all over it.
Now I don't know what's scarier at this point, a president who's willing to go this far for his claim on country or a country that is already divided and torn by ethnicity tensions while fighting two failed wars sticking to such a president.
This has Syria 2011/2012 dejavu all over it.
They hate Turks and Muslims in general but using his name for their insults.
Btw, even the biggest erdogan haters are accepting the fact this was an gulenist attack. There is a military council in august, their names were known and they have been forced to act now before they get kicked out from the army.
Btw, even the biggest erdogan haters are accepting the fact this was an gulenist attack. There is a military council in august, their names were known and they have been forced to act now before they get kicked out from the army.
icemaη;5320684 said:
Why at this time though? Isn't he president until 2020 or something? Why stage a coup when already in power? I've very little knowledge of the politics there, so a crash course will be appreciated 
Wrong. The only person they hate is wannabe Sultan Erdogan.
What a hypocrit.
The Reichstag fire, it happened before. I still think it's the less likely scenario but you can never know.
I also find it hard to believe it was the Gulenists behind it if it wasn't staged, why would they make their ultimate move in such a weak, disorganized manner? and looking at the political map as I'm sure they did you can see it's gonna end in failure and would only make Erdogan stronger internaly at least. It's much more likely it's just a small group of mid-level military commanders acted on their own then one of Turk's theories of a parallel state or some nonsense
Regardless of who's behind it I feel really bad for the future of the country, the downward spiral that turkey is on will continue and Erdogan authoritarian regime will only get stronger. This was such a bad move and achieved exactly the opposite.
I also find it hard to believe it was the Gulenists behind it if it wasn't staged, why would they make their ultimate move in such a weak, disorganized manner? and looking at the political map as I'm sure they did you can see it's gonna end in failure and would only make Erdogan stronger internaly at least. It's much more likely it's just a small group of mid-level military commanders acted on their own then one of Turk's theories of a parallel state or some nonsense
Regardless of who's behind it I feel really bad for the future of the country, the downward spiral that turkey is on will continue and Erdogan authoritarian regime will only get stronger. This was such a bad move and achieved exactly the opposite.