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Not Arab. Azerbaijani (Turkic nonetheless) poet who lived in Iraq. Wrote in Persian and Arabic too, I think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzuli
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzuli
Not according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layla_and_Majnun
Here's the part that talks about the Azeri connection:
The Story of Layla and Majnun passed into Azerbaijani literature. The Azerbaijani language adaptation of the story, Dâstân-ı Leylî vü Mecnûn (داستان ليلى و مجنون; "The Epic of Layla and Majnun") was written in the 16th century by Fuzûlî and Hagiri Tabrizi. Fuzûlî's version was borrowed by the renowned Azerbaijani composer Uzeyir Hajibeyov, who used the material to create what became the Middle East's first opera. It premiered in Baku on 25 January 1908. The story had previously been brought to the stage in the late 19th century, when Ahmed Shawqi wrote a poetic play about the tragedy, now considered one of the best in modern Arab poetry. Qays's lines from the play are sometimes confused with his actual poems.
A scene of the poem is depicted on the reverse of the Azerbaijani 100 and 50 manat commemorative coins minted in 1996 for the 500th anniversary of Fuzûlî's life and activities.[9]
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Here's the part that talks about the Azeri connection:
The Story of Layla and Majnun passed into Azerbaijani literature. The Azerbaijani language adaptation of the story, Dâstân-ı Leylî vü Mecnûn (داستان ليلى و مجنون; "The Epic of Layla and Majnun") was written in the 16th century by Fuzûlî and Hagiri Tabrizi. Fuzûlî's version was borrowed by the renowned Azerbaijani composer Uzeyir Hajibeyov, who used the material to create what became the Middle East's first opera. It premiered in Baku on 25 January 1908. The story had previously been brought to the stage in the late 19th century, when Ahmed Shawqi wrote a poetic play about the tragedy, now considered one of the best in modern Arab poetry. Qays's lines from the play are sometimes confused with his actual poems.
A scene of the poem is depicted on the reverse of the Azerbaijani 100 and 50 manat commemorative coins minted in 1996 for the 500th anniversary of Fuzûlî's life and activities.[9]
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Turkey is the only Muslim country in the world that has democracy. Throughout our history, since 1923, we never want to be sided with Arabs. We don't like Arabs. That's why, we have been side with Europe all the time. Their goal is to destroy that and make Turkey like Iran.
Their biggest obstacle to that goal is military. They are trying to destroy that right now.
Their biggest obstacle to that goal is military. They are trying to destroy that right now.
You don't like Arabs? 
Maybe you don't, don't speak for the rest of Turks though, thats a pretty broad statement, and i have Turkish friends here that would strongly oppose what you just said
Maybe you don't, don't speak for the rest of Turks though, thats a pretty broad statement, and i have Turkish friends here that would strongly oppose what you just said
Rich and educated people in Turkey don't vote for AKP. AKP get almost all their votes from poor and uneducated people and they are very religious.
It's a fact. If you are rich, educated, you're less likely to be religious. If you are poor and uneducated, you're most likely to be religious.
I wouldn't exactly call them poor and uneducated, they had the money to pay for university here in UAE. One of the most expensive universities too, so there goes your theory. Also, i'd say its advisable to properly understand the simple concept of what constitutes a "fact".
The whole argument wasn't about who is more likely to be religious. Your statement was that Turks don't like Arabs, what has financial capability, education and religiousness have anything to do with that?
The whole argument wasn't about who is more likely to be religious. Your statement was that Turks don't like Arabs, what has financial capability, education and religiousness have anything to do with that?
I didn't understand anything from your first paragraph. So let me answer you with the second paragraph.
I know argument wasn't about who's religious or who is not but people who back up AKP are the ones who are religious. If you are religious in Turkey, you're more likely to like Arabs. But majority of the country are not religious and they don't like Arabs.
Why? It's simple.
Why should we side with Arabs? There's not even one developed Arab country. What do we get by on their side?
Second, they did backstab us in World War I by fighting against us with British.
We still didn't forget about that. That's why I don't feel sorry for Palestanians. They betrayed us with British and took that land from us. Now, they even have a bigger problem.
I know argument wasn't about who's religious or who is not but people who back up AKP are the ones who are religious. If you are religious in Turkey, you're more likely to like Arabs. But majority of the country are not religious and they don't like Arabs.
Why? It's simple.
Why should we side with Arabs? There's not even one developed Arab country. What do we get by on their side?
Second, they did backstab us in World War I by fighting against us with British.
We still didn't forget about that. That's why I don't feel sorry for Palestanians. They betrayed us with British and took that land from us. Now, they even have a bigger problem.
So, what were the main events where Turkey made a decision against the will of USA before AKP controlled the country.
United States want Turkey to be controlled by religious party, therefore they can strength their relationship with Arabs. They want Turkey to be the leader of Muslim countries. In order to do that, they need to get rid of all people who likes Ataturk. Biggest obstacle is Military.
Who backstabbed whom? Have you read about the massacres that were made by Jamal The Butcher in Damascus and Beirut before the Arab revolution? That criminal had nothing to do with Islam. The only thing that made Arabs live under Turk rule for 4 centuries was the unity of the religion. When the idiots and criminals ruled Turkey in the beginning of the 20th century, Arabs thought again about the feasibility of staying under Turkish rule. When they found that the massacres was going on, they decided to ally with the Evil to protect themselves from being murdered without any justification.
Regarding your stand to Palestinians, let me make it brief to you. The majority of Turks are with Palestinians because they know we have a fair case. Whether you feel backstabbed by us or not, you are free to do so, but in the end of the day, Palestinians lived under Ottoman rule for 400 years. Our grandfathers rebelled against that regime when they found there is no other choice.
So weird thinking!
Regarding your stand to Palestinians, let me make it brief to you. The majority of Turks are with Palestinians because they know we have a fair case. Whether you feel backstabbed by us or not, you are free to do so, but in the end of the day, Palestinians lived under Ottoman rule for 400 years. Our grandfathers rebelled against that regime when they found there is no other choice.
So weird thinking!
Arabs back stabbed us, then we decided to side with out western brothers whom always wanted best for us. So we imported immorality, nudity, alphabet(because Arab one was difficult to learn, that's what they say) to reach their highness.
I am hopeful for new generation. They are more informed about what happened in past and well prepared against kemalist lies.
I am hopeful for new generation. They are more informed about what happened in past and well prepared against kemalist lies.
