Summer Mercato Thread 2020-21 (86 Viewers)

[Robee]

I just presented you the whole top8 in the league and showed than all of them improved in one summer. The league is as good as it's top clubs are, and they improved significantly. Napoli wasn't the only competitive team as there was also Roma at that time that were just as good.

Dybala went from 19 to 8 goals when Higgy arrived, and we lost goalscoring from the midfield as well with Pogba gone. Higgy scored a lot but that didn't come as bonus on top of the rest, but at the expense. Also you don't know how close/far we were from signing or not signing anyone back then, so that's another assumption. We paid 90M for a single player, there is no reason to assume we couldn't have went for a different 'superstar'.

To even bring Higgy (and Dybala for that matter) in the same conversation with Ronaldo is ridiculous. But let's play your game. We won 7 straight before CR, winning the league was never the issue for us and not the reason we got him. It's the 7 out of 7 knock out stage goals in the last 2 years he delivered, something we were wrongfully hoping from Higgy when he arrived. No one thought it was a move to extend domestic dominance when we signed him, and that's not why you splash 90M on a CF

You showed they had more points. That's something completely different to improving, pal...

You're again making the wrong comparison. What we should be comparing was record-breaking Higuain and his Napoli impact and Ronaldo's impact for Juve... Because you were saying we improved Napoli by buying Higgy. And it that logic selling Cristiano/Dybi would give us the cash to also improve. I'm actually denying it if you're still following...

 

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[zizinho]

Behold peasants

 

[Post Ironic]

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[zizinho]

You showed they had more points. That's something completely different to improving, pal...

You're again making the wrong comparison. What we should be comparing was record-breaking Higuain and his Napoli impact and Ronaldo's impact for Juve... Because you were saying we improved Napoli by buying Higgy. And it that logic selling Cristiano/Dybi would give us the cash to also improve. I'm actually denying it if you're still following...

OK then look at each team individually. Or are you saying that Lazio, Atalanta, inter, Milan didn't improve?

We gave Napoli 90M to improve the midfield and defense. Higuains impact was replaced by Mertens and the other attackers, but they lacked depth and versatility in midfield which they bought with Higgy money. Now, if you say we would get better with selling Ronaldo, you also have to take into account the incoming money (which considering Higgy was waaay overpaid and applying the same for Ronaldo should be 150M minimum) and who we buy with that money. Same for Dybala. Both are hypothetical and we can only guess unless it actually happens.

But nice job shifting the conversation on useless hypotheticals instead of Higgy and his impact on us

 

[Snobist]

So we're trying to sell Dybala again this summer or they're summer reports to fuck with our heads?

 

[zizinho]

So we're trying to sell Dybala again this summer or they're summer reports to fuck with our heads?

The way I see it that's only if we fail to agree an extension, which will eventually be agreed imo

 

[pavluska]

Napoli wasn't the only competitive team as there was also Roma at that time that were just as good.

Lolwut

winning the league was never the issue for us and not the reason we got him.
....something we were wrongfully hoping from Higgy when he arrived

Wrt to CL, he was bought to top the group stage. Let's see if you can figure that out.

We reached CL final that season btw.

 

[Salvo]

As if anyone knows what formation Pirlo wants to use at this point

All these journalists wait for someone to say some bullshit and follow suit.

In theory

De Ligt Bonucci Demiral

Should work but then we have the problem that our backups are Chiellini (always dead) Rugani (not great) and who? Romero?

 

[Snobist]

As if anyone knows what formation Pirlo wants to use at this point

All these journalists wait for someone to say some bullshit and follow suit.

In theory

De Ligt Bonucci Demiral

Should work but then we have the problem that our backups are Chiellini (always dead) Rugani (not great) and who? Romero?

I doubt Pirlo himself knows what formation he will play.

 

[zizinho]

Lolwut



Wrt to CL, he was bought to top the group stage. Let's see if you can figure that out.

We reached CL final that season btw.

I'm not playing your stupid games, but Morata had a much greater contribution on the team in the CL. We reached the final alright, that was thanks to Higgy I guess. Thanks for showing up 1 game out of of 7 (inb4 we wouldn't beat Monaco without him)

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As if anyone knows what formation Pirlo wants to use at this point

All these journalists wait for someone to say some bullshit and follow suit.

In theory

De Ligt Bonucci Demiral

Should work but then we have the problem that our backups are Chiellini (always dead) Rugani (not great) and who? Romero?

Alaba could work as LCB in a 3 man backline and LB in a 4 man backline. He's also a capable CM. If there is a chance we should go for him

 

[pavluska]

I'm not playing your stupid games, but Morata had a much greater contribution on the team in the CL. We reached the final alright, that was thanks to Higgy I guess. Thanks for showing up 1 game out of of 7 (inb4 we wouldn't beat Monaco without him)

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Alaba could work as LCB in a 3 man backline and LB in a 4 man backline. He's also a capable CM. If there is a chance we should go for him

Got the answer to my q, thanks.

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Behold peasants

Balotelli, Dzeko, Cavani...

I'm beginning to see a trend just now.

 

[il brutto]

As if anyone knows what formation Pirlo wants to use at this point

All these journalists wait for someone to say some bullshit and follow suit.

In theory

De Ligt Bonucci Demiral

Should work but then we have the problem that our backups are Chiellini (always dead) Rugani (not great) and who? Romero?

Not sure I like Demiral on the left. Sandro should be capable of playing as a LCB imo. Conte for example used Azpilicueta as a RCB in his Chelsea team and D'Ambrosio has played quite a lot as a RCB for Inter this season.

 

[zizinho]

Got the answer to my q, thanks.

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Balotelli, Dzeko, Cavani...

I'm beginning to see a trend just now.

Always nice talking to you

 

[Snobist]

I don't care who we buy or sell, as long as our players work as unit and run their asses like Atelti players.

 

[pavluska]

OK then look at each team individually. Or are you saying that Lazio, Atalanta, inter, Milan didn't improve?

We gave Napoli 90M to improve the midfield and defense. Higuains impact was replaced by Mertens and the other attackers, but they lacked depth and versatility in midfield which they bought with Higgy money. Now, if you say we would get better with selling Ronaldo, you also have to take into account the incoming money (which considering Higgy was waaay overpaid and applying the same for Ronaldo should be 150M minimum) and who we buy with that money. Same for Dybala. Both are hypothetical and we can only guess unless it actually happens.

But nice job shifting the conversation on useless hypotheticals instead of Higgy and his impact on us

How much depth and versatility do you recall Sarri using post Higgy?

 

[Robee]

OK then look at each team individually. Or are you saying that Lazio, Atalanta, inter, Milan didn't improve?

We gave Napoli 90M to improve the midfield and defense. Higuains impact was replaced by Mertens and the other attackers, but they lacked depth and versatility in midfield which they bought with Higgy money. Now, if you say we would get better with selling Ronaldo, you also have to take into account the incoming money (which considering Higgy was waaay overpaid and applying the same for Ronaldo should be 150M minimum) and who we buy with that money. Same for Dybala. Both are hypothetical and we can only guess unless it actually happens.

But nice job shifting the conversation on useless hypotheticals instead of Higgy and his impact on us

Mertens replacing Higuain lol. Not by a mile... Nice try. And I wasn't the one shifting the convo, pal.

But by selling Dybala we could actually buy a competent midfielder (Partey) and a striker (Morata). Would you call it an upgrade?

You're just being risiculous with the 150m, etc. etc. Bye.

 

[zizinho]

How much depth and versatility do you recall Sarri using post Higgy?

Well since I specifically said in midfield you could have guessed yourself. Zielinski and Rog most notably. Milik upfront before his injury

 

[LiquidPLP]

3 man backline doesn't make any sense to me. We don't have the players to do it and if they spend all the money on defense, while leaving the midfield like it is now, we're doomed.

 

[U Picciriddu]

3 man backline doesn't make any sense to me. We don't have the players to do it and if they spend all the money on defense, while leaving the midfield like it is now, we're doomed.

As seen yesterday, with a 3 man backline you’re so exposed against good wingers, and if you play defensively you’ll miss a extra player in attack as seen with Inter this year. It’s shaky formation in Europe. I think we have the player for it tho.