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IlCapitano

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pavluska said:
Why do you think they wouldn't have scored even more goals and points with Higuain or they scored more because Higuain, who was better than his replacement, left?

(Again, unless he was going to ruin his body and turn up fat for them too after that summer, but that's conjecture/hindsight)
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That's not conjecture at all. He was overweight the minute he walked in at Juve, then became fat in one of the most organized clubs in the world. There's no doubt he'd have been even worse over there.
 
pavluska

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The Quazis said:
Mediaset and gds should be banned here. They are known for spreading unfavorable news about Juve. This is their agenda because they know people who hate Juve (big part of Italy) want to read about our misfortunes.
Worst part is that there are juventinis that buy this bs either and then are spreading defeatism in places like this.
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In a way you can't blame them for that poor level of journalism bc what they sell get bought.

Not just anti Juve garbage (which is bad enough and hilarious some Juventini have meltdowns and disparage the club based on them) but garbage in general like Isco rumors. Pirlo mentioned him him years ago as an example, so now late 20s expensive Isco, who'd narrow our choice of formations even more, predictably gets linked, and people are wasting time talking about him.
 
zizinho

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Robee said:
The team wouldn't have won it without Higuain that season. Clear as day, he saved our ass time and time again.

Of course Napoi gained more points... Serie A was weakening and Sarri's impact growing... By that logic you should love a Dybala and Cristiano sale. That would give us many millions to 'improve the team'.
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How exactly did Serie A got weaker? Roma in that same season won 87pts finishing above Napoli. Then you have an improved Lazio and Atalanta both with 70pts+, and Milangoing up from 50pts+ to 60pts+. Not counting us you had two 85pts+ teams compares to zero the previous year, 4th and 5th had 70pts+, and then 6th-8th with 60pts+. 6th place Sassuolo barely finished with 60pts+ the year before. The league clearly got better and Napoli and Roma did an impressive job to push us when losing their starting CF and best mid respectively.

You make the mistake of assuming we wouldnt win certain games without higgy, which when looking at evidence, aka the last 9 years of winning, shows your logic is flawed. If we never bought him, someone else would have been bought. A different CF, or a winger (with Mandzu-Dybi up top), or as it should have been, a CM to replace Pogba. Those goals you speak of, someone else would have scored them, as we would play a different game than playing to create chances for him with him not there. We won 5 straight scudetti before higgy, and then we won after he left as well. His presence/non presence would have not changed the end result of either season in Serie A.
 
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IlCapitano said:
That's not conjecture at all. He was overweight the minute he walked in at Juve, then became fat in one of the most organized clubs in the world. There's no doubt he'd have been even worse over there.
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He arrived fat from vacation, not became at Juve.

Do you know if he "celebrated" excessively during holiday bc he broke the record or signed for Juve or both?

And why do you think the mgmt should've anticipated that? That makes no sense.
 
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zizinho said:
How exactly did Serie A got weaker? Roma in that same season won 87pts finishing above Napoli. Then you have an improved Lazio and Atalanta both with 70pts+, and Milangoing up from 50pts+ to 60pts+. Not counting us you had two 85pts+ teams compares to zero the previous year, 4th and 5th had 70pts+, and then 6th-8th with 60pts+. 6th place Sassuolo barely finished with 60pts+ the year before. The league clearly got better and Napoli and Roma did an impressive job to push us when losing their starting CF and best mid respectively.

You make the mistake of assuming we wouldnt win certain games without higgy, which when looking at evidence, aka the last 9 years of winning, shows your logic is flawed. If we never bought him, someone else would have been bought. A different CF, or a winger (with Mandzu-Dybi up top), or as it should have been, a CM to replace Pogba. Those goals you speak of, someone else would have scored them, as we would play a different game than playing to create chances for him with him not there. We won 5 straight scudetti before higgy, and then we won after he left as well. His presence/non presence would have not changed the end result of either season in Serie A.
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Same can be said for Ronaldo, except one is GOAT and the other is FAT
But the FAT one at least getting us to UCL final, while the GOAT one is busy eating his grass
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So GOAT, you must get that big ear cup next year less than that is unacceptable
 
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