Summer Mercato Thread 2020-21 (103 Viewers)

[zizinho]

Mertens replacing Higuain lol. Not by a mile... Nice try. And I wasn't the one shifting the convo, pal.

But by selling Dybala we could actually buy a competent midfielder (Partey) and a striker (Morata). Would you call it an upgrade?

You're just being risiculous with the 150m, etc. etc. Bye.

Nice try? Mertens was close to 30 goals in Serie A and had 34 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, of which 5 and 4 were in CL, compared to Higgys 38 goals and 4 assists the year before. Couple that with the team as a whole improving and you can't make a claim with a straight face that we somehow weakened them. Unless you have clear bias towards Higgy.

You're the one that brought up selling Dybala and Ronaldo, if you don't want to discuss and just throw away every argument, then don't bother quoting me. If you think selling Dybala/Ronaldo for 90M and Higuain for 90M is the same thing, then there is no point talking to you. Higuain was way overpriced, so you need to apply the same standard for the other 2.

 

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[MikeM]

As seen yesterday, with a 3 man backline you’re so exposed against good wingers, and if you play defensively you’ll miss a extra player in attack as seen with Inter this year. It’s shaky formation in Europe. I think we have the player for it tho.

A 3 man backline is never really a 3 man backline. It's either a 5 man backline if you play defensive or 1 v 1 all over the field like how Atalanta plays.

 

[pavluska]

Well since I specifically said in midfield you could have guessed yourself. Zielinski and Rog most notably. Milik upfront before his injury

First Roma was a title contender that season, and now, Sarri rotated at Napoli. Jebus

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3 man backline doesn't make any sense to me. We don't have the players to do it and if they spend all the money on defense, while leaving the midfield like it is now, we're doomed.

Well, cheaper to find and buy a backup CB than top winger

 

[Robee]

Nice try? Mertens was close to 30 goals in Serie A and had 34 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, of which 5 and 4 were in CL, compared to Higgys 38 goals and 4 assists the year before. Couple that with the team as a whole improving and you can't make a claim with a straight face that we somehow weakened them. Unless you have clear bias towards Higgy.

You're the one that brought up selling Dybala and Ronaldo, if you don't want to discuss and just throw away every argument, then don't bother quoting me. If you think selling Dybala/Ronaldo for 90M and Higuain for 90M is the same thing, then there is no point talking to you. Higuain was way overpriced, so you need to apply the same standard for the other 2.

You're blinded by statistics and numbers... Higuain did everything on that team. Saying the team improved with Mertens over Higuain is so awfully wrong. Higgy did almost everything at Napoli. Mertens was much more pinpointed as the sphere... If they had THAT Higgy in that team, they would've been much better. Mertens wa easily the inferior player and he was laready there... They didn't even buy him with Higgy money... There's no denying that without a bias.

 

[pavluska]

Nice try? Mertens was close to 30 goals in Serie A and had 34 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, of which 5 and 4 were in CL, compared to Higgys 38 goals and 4 assists the year before. Couple that with the team as a whole improving and you can't make a claim with a straight face that we somehow weakened them. Unless you have clear bias towards Higgy.

You're the one that brought up selling Dybala and Ronaldo, if you don't want to discuss and just throw away every argument, then don't bother quoting me. If you think selling Dybala/Ronaldo for 90M and Higuain for 90M is the same thing, then there is no point talking to you. Higuain was way overpriced, so you need to apply the same standard for the other 2.

Did you and do you think our mgmt should have seen Mertens be turned into a F9/CF and score "close to 30" goals the following season?

 

[LiquidPLP]

As seen yesterday, with a 3 man backline you’re so exposed against good wingers, and if you play defensively you’ll miss a extra player in attack as seen with Inter this year. It’s shaky formation in Europe. I think we have the player for it tho.

How so? We don't even have the proper number of CBs if you cont the heads. Then you have MDL out for three months, Chiellini who's almost retired now after an ACL injury and Demiral who will face some setbacks (probably a couple of muscular injuries) before he gets back to being usable week in and week out again.

Then we have AS and Cuadrado who aren't youngsters anymore, I don't think they can do the wingback roles easily. Certainly Danilo can't do that too. Then you have to think about midfield, it has to be athletic as fuck to keep up tempo.

I'm not an expert but if the management and Pirlo are smart enough then it's 433 again for me. Strengthen the midfield properly, get another winger to rotate with Kulu and a proper backup striker. Don't touch things that aren't broken like defense.

 

[pavluska]

You're blinded by statistics and numbers... Higuain did everything on that team. Saying the team improved with Mertens over Higuain is so awfully wrong. Higgy did almost everything at Napoli. Mertens was much more pinpointed as the sphere... If they had THAT Higgy in that team, they would've been much better. Mertens wa easily the inferior player and he was laready there... They didn't even buy him with Higgy money... There's no denying that without a bias.

I honestly can't believe someone is arguing this or thinks Roma was title contender that season or thinks Sarri rotated with Napoli ever (what level of memory fail is this). Rog had 0 start in Serie A that season.

 

[il brutto]

You lot are arguing over hypothetical scenarios. It's pointless, no one knows what would have happened.

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How so? We don't even have the proper number of CBs if you cont the heads. Then you have MDL out for three months, Chiellini who's almost retired now after an ACL injury and Demiral who will face some setbacks (probably a couple of muscular injuries) before he gets back to being usable week in and week out again.

Then we have AS and Cuadrado who aren't youngsters anymore, I don't think they can do the wingback roles easily. Certainly Danilo can't do that too. Then you have to think about midfield, it has to be athletic as fuck to keep up tempo.

I'm not an expert but if the management and Pirlo are smart enough then it's 433 again for me. Strengthen the midfield properly, get another winger to rotate with Kulu and a proper backup striker. Don't touch things that aren't broken like defense.

We have six CBs at the moment: De Ligt, Demiral, Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani and Romero. Also as I said it's completely normal to play your more defensive fullbacks as CBs in a three man backline.

 

[Al Birdie]

Nice try? Mertens was close to 30 goals in Serie A and had 34 goals and 12 assists in all competitions, of which 5 and 4 were in CL, compared to Higgys 38 goals and 4 assists the year before. Couple that with the team as a whole improving and you can't make a claim with a straight face that we somehow weakened them. Unless you have clear bias towards Higgy.

You're the one that brought up selling Dybala and Ronaldo, if you don't want to discuss and just throw away every argument, then don't bother quoting me. If you think selling Dybala/Ronaldo for 90M and Higuain for 90M is the same thing, then there is no point talking to you. Higuain was way overpriced, so you need to apply the same standard for the other 2.

I think this is pretty obvious by now... You don't like Higuain and just rationalising your biased opinion. It would be fine, but it went way to far by now. Just get over it man

 

[il brutto]

I think this is pretty obvious by now... You don't like Higuain and just rationalising your biased opinion. It would be fine, but it went way to far by now. Just get over it man

@zizinho is one of the most avid Higgy fans I've come across.

 

[zizinho]

First Roma was a title contender that season,

"A competitive team other than Napoli"

and now, Sarri rotated at Napoli.

Men lie, pavle forgets, pavle misreads, numbers dont

 

[cimenk]

La Stampa confirms Pirlo prefers a back 3

3-4-2-1 what in media said actually suited what Pirlo's have in our disposal and our latest transfer news. Looking at how porous our defence last season and how Bonucci/Rugani was comfortable playing in back 3 and De Ligt cant play for 3 months, this formation could be suited for our player's strength now

CB : Romero, De Ligt, Chiellini, Bonucci, Rugani
LWB : Sandro (can also play as LCB or sold and buy Gosens), Pellegrini, De Sciglio (sold)
RWB : Dest, Cuadrado, Danilo (could be sold)
CM : Rabiot, Bentancur, Arthur, Locatelli (bought), Ramsey (could be sold), Khedira (sold)
AM/RW : Dybala, Kulusevski
AM/LW : C. Ronaldo, De Paul (bought) or maintain one of Berna/Costa
SS : The one we look for like Dzeko, etc, Higuain (sold)

 

[zizinho]

You're blinded by statistics and numbers... Higuain did everything on that team. Saying the team improved with Mertens over Higuain is so awfully wrong. Higgy did almost everything at Napoli. Mertens was much more pinpointed as the sphere... If they had THAT Higgy in that team, they would've been much better. Mertens wa easily the inferior player and he was laready there... They didn't even buy him with Higgy money... There's no denying that without a bias.

You're constantly missing the point. Higuain at his best is the better player than Mertens, but when he left the team got better, thanks to among other things the money they got for him. The Mertens statistics were just to show that his impact was replaced by others.

And no shit if thet kept Higgy on top of spending 90M on reinforcements that they would have been better. If we kept Pogba in 2016, we'd have been CL winners in 2017. But for whatever reason we sold him, and the team improved still (DA, Benatia, Pjanic, Higuain)

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I think this is pretty obvious by now... You don't like Higuain and just rationalising your biased opinion. It would be fine, but it went way to far by now. Just get over it man

I'll consider it. Thanks for the feedback

 

[U Picciriddu]

How so? We don't even have the proper number of CBs if you cont the heads. Then you have MDL out for three months, Chiellini who's almost retired now after an ACL injury and Demiral who will face some setbacks (probably a couple of muscular injuries) before he gets back to being usable week in and week out again.

Then we have AS and Cuadrado who aren't youngsters anymore, I don't think they can do the wingback roles easily. Certainly Danilo can't do that too. Then you have to think about midfield, it has to be athletic as fuck to keep up tempo.

I'm not an expert but if the management and Pirlo are smart enough then it's 433 again for me. Strengthen the midfield properly, get another winger to rotate with Kulu and a proper backup striker. Don't touch things that aren't broken like defense.

At the moment we still have Romero, Demiral, Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani and De Ligt. And Dragusin as nice prospect in the primavera. So that’s 6 players at our disposal, we can discuss wether they have the qualities for it, but at least they’re here.

Cuadrado imo is more suited as a wingback.

Rabiot, Arthur and Bentancur are good in a more neutral role (not very attacking, not to defensively).

And a 3 man attack of Ronaldo - Jimenez - Dybala/Kulu is great (I assume that Jimenez will come after Schira’s Twitter message, he’s to be taken seriously).

Leaves us with Sandro. I think that he can adapt there, why not.

Btw I agree with 4-3-3. I rather see that, but we could deploy a 343 if we sign a pure 9, and we for sure will.

 

[zizinho]

@zizinho is one of the most avid Higgy fans I've come across.

I was very disappointed when he left to Milan on loan

 

[pavluska]

"A competitive team other than Napoli"

Men lie, pavle forgets, pavle misreads, numbers dont

Lmao I knew you were gonna post that and this is worse than being hung up on inte* finishing 1 pt behind us when we win the scudetto at 7. Inte* at least were being bandied about as title contenders for large part of the season, and Roma was never is conversation from start to finish. Hahaha

Yes that's a lotta rotation lol.

 

[zizinho]

Lmao I knew you were gonna post that and this is worse than being hung up on inte* finishing 1 pt behind us when we win the scudetto at 7. Inte* at least were being bandied about as title contenders for large part of the season, and Roma was never is conversation from start to finish. Hahaha

Yes that's a lotta rotation lol.

You're right, only Napoli were competitive that year

pavle with the wisdom lel

 

[Orgut]

Get Kumbulla then.

I wonder why we arent linked to him at the moment. I guess we need to sell first although it provides other team chances of getting him before we act..

 

[il brutto]

I was very disappointed when he left to Milan on loan

At the moment we still have Romero, Demiral, Bonucci, Chiellini, Rugani and De Ligt. And Dragusin as nice prospect in the primavera. So that’s 6 players at our disposal, we can discuss wether they have the qualities for it, but at least they’re here.

Cuadrado imo is more suited as a wingback.

Rabiot, Arthur and Bentancur are good in a more neutral role (not very attacking, not to defensively).

And a 3 man attack of Ronaldo - Jimenez - Dybala/Kulu is great (I assume that Jimenez will come after Schira’s Twitter message, he’s to be taken seriously).

Leaves us with Sandro. I think that he can adapt there, why not.

Btw I agree with 4-3-3. I rather see that, but we could deploy a 343 if we sign a pure 9, and we for sure will.

If Sandro plays LCB it can easily become a four man backline at times during games.

 

[pavluska]

Looks at table and thinks Roma were contenders that season How the frig do you not remember who was and wasn't.