Summer Mercato Thread 2019-20 (59 Viewers)

[Orgut]

who the f*ck is delpiero06?

Yeah there is only one guru and his name is Randy Orton ohhh Seth Rollins..

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Would u rather take Rabiot on a free and spend money on other departments or spend 70m on ndombele.

If we get Rabiot for free we can also sign Ndombele as Rabiot is free...
Pogba might be a different scenario (MIGHT)

 

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[Nenz]

There are still people who rate Sarri over Allegri? Ffs

I rate Allegri very highly. His CV speaks for itself. I just have an inkling that his football is near enough but not quite good enough for the CL. He's not a killer. His Juve sides have never been ruthless. We win but we win conservatively. It's a mindset he's instilled in the team to take the foot off the pedal from time to time as a means of conserving energy. The problem is that to take your foot off the pedal is to take your foot of the throat of your opponent and it's a lot easier to take your foot off than to put it back on. I've seen many times the opposition gain confidence because we allow them time on the ball in these periods of rest that Allegri insists on. It's a fundamental assumption in his philosophy that doesn't stand to reason. Allowing the opposition time on the ball does not conserve energy. It's far more exerting to be without the ball than with it.

CL football, more than Serie A, is about momentum. The longer you can arrest the momentum in a game the better chance you have of winning. Allegri's teams too often surrender that momentum and they do it deliberately based on a misconception about efficiency - that attacking, possession based football isn't sustainable over 90 minutes. Maybe not. But the longer you do hold the ball and attack, the better chance you have of winning. Plain and simple. Sure, we successfully defended results with 11 men against some good sides but there are just some teams out there (namely the ones we've lost to in finals) to which you can't go handing over the momentum

Sarri has the right philosophy to win the CL IMO. It's more in the vein of Klopp, Zidane, Guardiola's styles. It's meant to be suffocating and ruthless. What he did at Napoli shouldn't be understated given they have about half the resources we do.

 

[littlePrince]

clleissen to juve?
he said im leaving Barca for CR7

 

[Osman]

clleissen to juve?
he said im leaving Barca for CR7

Yeah just got notification for this, so random way to say it lol, if he is serious. But I understand us moving on from Perin.

 

[Zacheryah]

Why are people talking about signing ndombelol ?

We obviously arent after him, and with Ramsey and perhaps Rabiot, we are well stacked centrally

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why are people talking about signing ndombelol ?

We obviously arent after him, and with Ramsey and perhaps Rabiot, we are well stacked centrally

If Ramsey and Rabiot are our only midfield signings, STREET PARATICI

 

[Zacheryah]

If Ramsey and Rabiot are our only midfield signings, STREET PARATICI

Why ? We also need manolas and icardi, and we only have one dybala to sell

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Why ? We also need manolas and icardi, and we only have one dybala to sell

We don't need icardi, we need a massive improvement in midfield. Rabiot isn't that, you can depend in Ramsey missing many important moments in a season.

We also have other sales to make, let's buy a proper fucking midfielder and cease with the stop gap measures for once

 

[lgorTudor]

We also need manolas and icardi

no we don't

and Ramsey+Rabiot obviously don't cut it

 

[rakib567]

Rabiot on a free is a no brainer tbh. If we get Rabiot and Ndombele with Ramsey as well that works out as 20mil each player *

 

[Zacheryah]

We don't need icardi, we need a massive improvement in midfield. Rabiot isn't that, you can depend in Ramsey missing many important moments in a season.

We also have other sales to make, let's buy a proper fucking midfielder and cease with the stop gap measures for once

I dont like it when people become all defensive and unrealistically negative about players if it doesnt suit their case of a different player.


Ronaldo : 35, Mandzukic : almost 33, Higuain : half way to 32 and in decay.
Lets forget strikers remain the most expensive and that Icardi is a world class finisher aged 26.

Manolas : lets forget Chiellini is 35 and injured half the time, Bonucci is 32 and shit without chiellini, while rugani loses his balls without chiellini

Rabiot is wanted by literally every big team in europe. Yes, i prefer Pogba. Pogba costs 155+ mil. We dont have that.

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Rabiot on a free is a no brainer tbh. If we get Rabiot and Ndombele with Ramsey as well that works out as 20mil each player *

We need Manolas or similar cb and we obviously are going for icardi, and Ndombele wont play at juve

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I dont like it when people become all defensive and unrealistically negative about players if it doesnt suit their case of a different player.


Ronaldo : 35, Mandzukic : almost 33, Higuain : half way to 32 and in decay.
Lets forget strikers remain the most expensive and that Icardi is a world class finisher aged 26.

Manolas : lets forget Chiellini is 35 and injured half the time, Bonucci is 32 and shit without chiellini, while rugani loses his balls without chiellini

Rabiot is wanted by literally every big team in europe. Yes, i prefer Pogba. Pogba costs 155+ mil. We dont have that.

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We need Manolas or similar cb and we obviously are going for icardi, and Ndombele wont play at juve

Lol what are you talking about?

We also have Kean. He and Mandzukic suffice as CF while we have more urgent matters

Never said a thing about Manolas....

Who else is Rabiot wanted by? Literally every team... lol. Didn't Barca reject him after almost coming to a deal?

Maybe you quoted me in error cuz I never mentioned Pogba either. NDombele or someone of that level is fine

 

[LiquidPLP]

Lol what are you talking about?

We also have Kean. He and Mandzukic suffice as CF while we have more urgent matters

Never said a thing about Manolas....

Who else is Rabiot wanted by? Literally every team... lol. Didn't Barca reject him after almost coming to a deal?

Maybe you quoted me in error cuz I never mentioned Pogba either. NDombele or someone of that level is fine

I don't think that anyone rejected Rabiot. It's all about the wages. 10m net is insane. We'll pay that because even with that kind of money, he'll be cheaper than anything you could possibly get this Summer.

So yeah, Ramsey + Rabiot for free and I'd say that will be it. Khedira will leave, so we'll have 6 CMs, perfect number in terms of cover for next season.
Then, we'll spend a lot for attack and defense. Not that I agree with this approach but this is what I expect.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't think that anyone rejected Rabiot. It's all about the wages. 10m net is insane. We'll pay that because even with that kind of money, he'll be cheaper than anything you could possibly get this Summer.

So yeah, Ramsey + Rabiot for free and I'd say that will be it. Khedira will leave, so we'll have 6 CMs, perfect number in terms of cover for next season.
Then, we'll spend a lot for attack and defense. Not that I agree with this approach but this is what I expect.

I wouldn't be surprised either. But its shit

 

[LiquidPLP]

I wouldn't be surprised either. But its shit

Well, doing anything more than that will require big-money sales I believe. You're not getting anything impressive in terms of money by offloading the likes of Mandzukic/Khedira/Matuidi.
Let's face it, the squad is old and has huge holes that need to be filled in. Obviously we want quality over quantity but with Allegri at the helm, you need numbers as well (injuries).

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Well, doing anything more than that will require big-money sales I believe. You're not getting anything impressive in terms of money by offloading the likes of Mandzukic/Khedira/Matuidi.
Let's face it, the squad is old and has huge holes that need to be filled in. Obviously we want quality over quantity but with Allegri at the helm, you need numbers as well (injuries).

Like I said we dont need Icardi. Spend that money on a proper midfielder

But even if we do get Icardi, his cost should be offset by the sale of Dybala at the least, hopefully we can make a surplus there.

So we buy Manolas for 36 or whatever, and from the sales of Mandzukic and whatever other players we have floating around in the system, we still havent crossed 20 mill in spend.

You're saying we can't afford another 60 to 70 million on a midfielder? If so, that Ronaldo purchase looks more and more like a mistake

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Do we even scout anymore, or do we just have a list of players who are free agents or with low release clauses, or wait for agents to come to us offering us players who fall out of favour with their clubs?

 

[rakib567]

Links with Cillisen from barcelona. Perin set to leave

 

[Zacheryah]

Lol what are you talking about?

We also have Kean. He and Mandzukic suffice as CF while we have more urgent matters

Never said a thing about Manolas....

Who else is Rabiot wanted by? Literally every team... lol. Didn't Barca reject him after almost coming to a deal?

Maybe you quoted me in error cuz I never mentioned Pogba either. NDombele or someone of that level is fine

Kean is 19. Lets be a bit realistic here.
Read the media about Rabiot. Every article is about how all the big teams are after him. Surprised me in one way, but he has grown quite alot.

I know you didnt mention Pogba. But people want that massive expensive cm. We need to cover several positions so its just difficult and look

Pjanic, Rabiot, Ramsey, Can, Bentacur, Matuidi... Yeah we are well upgraded allready there

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Like I said we dont need Icardi. Spend that money on a proper midfielder

But even if we do get Icardi, his cost should be offset by the sale of Dybala at the least, hopefully we can make a surplus there.

So we buy Manolas for 36 or whatever, and from the sales of Mandzukic and whatever other players we have floating around in the system, we still havent crossed 20 mill in spend.

You're saying we can't afford another 60 to 70 million on a midfielder? If so, that Ronaldo purchase looks more and more like a mistake

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Do we even scout anymore, or do we just have a list of players who are free agents or with low release clauses, or wait for agents to come to us offering us players who fall out of favour with their clubs?

Icardi indeed must be offset by selling dybala
Mandzukic shouldnt be sold, the loss is much bigger then the financial gain

When did we ever suddenly had 60-70mil to spend on a random cm ? Look at rabiot and ramsey wages

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Kean is 19. Lets be a bit realistic here.
Read the media about Rabiot. Every article is about how all the big teams are after him. Surprised me in one way, but he has grown quite alot.

I know you didnt mention Pogba. But people want that massive expensive cm. We need to cover several positions so its just difficult and look

Pjanic, Rabiot, Ramsey, Can, Bentacur, Matuidi... Yeah we are well upgraded allready there

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Icardi indeed must be offset by selling dybala
Mandzukic shouldnt be sold, the loss is much bigger then the financial gain

When did we ever suddenly had 60-70mil to spend on a random cm ? Look at rabiot and ramsey wages

Mandzukic, Ronaldo, Kean, Berna, Costa, Cuadrado is more than enough

Anyway I know how its gonna go, we'll be back here next year asking for a midfielder again because the group we have doesn't cut it

 

[Bianconero81]

We don't need Rabiot. Ramsey + Ndombele please. We'd be lucky if Ramsey plays 30% of our games. Khedira and Matuidi should leave. Bentancur, Ndombele, Pjanic, Can, Ramsey and Bentancur is a good selection. If Pjanic does indeed leave for PSG, bring in Pogba.

In attack, we don't need to make any changes. If we upgrade the midfield and defense, our attack will do its job.

We should have at least 70-80 million pre sales. That should get us Ndombele. With the sales of some fringe players, Orsolini, Mandragora and the like, the renewal of Higuain's loan, we can get ourselves another CB.

Icunti can suck a dick and go fuck himself. I don't want that toxic cancer anywhere near this club.

If Douglas Costa leaves, I will begrudgingly accept Chiesa. If Dybala must be sacrificed, bring in Joao Felix.

Tonali and Zaniolo for 2020-2021.