Orgut, yes, referring quality, i agree, that's why I mentioned it too and there is nothing to debate here, we lack quality. Yes Pjanic is good enough to adapt and offer what is needed and Marchisio although he can, he hasn't been very reliable lately, so it is a concern. But it is a similar concern to the one we have been having every year, that's why i didn't get into it again. I raised the same concern over and over again, last time when we got Rincon, but our mngmnt is somehow convinced that they are good enough and have invested millions on them... I was hoping that we would sell some and upgrade our options, but it didn't happen, so I m mostly hoping that we will at least fix all the rest and then, they will eventually see into that too.
Bayern havent actually signed Göretzka, only rumoured to on free agency next summer.
I'm glad we didnt sign Tolisso, dont think he would fit 2 man CM role, and not for the 45m he cost.
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Cronios allways says the complete OPPOSITE of whats logically needed every summer, takes extreme contrarianism to next level, so its corious people still take it at face value. I mean he is legit saying we need more offensive minded AM in our set up, when we are starting Pjanic AND Dybala centrally, the last thing the 3rd central midfielder needs to be is another AM like player...
I mean just recently he was heavily denying 4-2-3-1 is our main formation and how we should buy for 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 (first absolete, 2nd never play it) and host of other set ups Allegri barely is interested in.
Yes, i thought that a 3-5-2 or a 4-3-3 is much more logic than a 4-2-3-1, because we needed to buy a lot of players to change in such a formation and we would waste a lot of our players in the same time.
In the past years we have been stacking CBs and CMs, the 3-5-2 needs 3 CBs and 3 CMs fielded at all time and ensure that we can rest and rotate those players, we need at least twice that number, meaning 6CBs and 6CMs
To change into the 4-2-3-1 means that we only need four CBs and four CMs, we would need 4 wingbacks defensively orientated and offensively, as we had for the 3-5-2, as wingbacks in a 3-5-2 are needed to help more the front two than the back three. And a CAM, a player we DONT have and is very hard to find as there a few of them available. And lastly, we would need more side forwards.
It was quite hard to make the change, it would mean many sales and acquisitions and when we buy a lot, usually we get average quality, rather then when focusing on quality. The team is likely to need more time to raise them work levels in the standards we had. And selling the pieces that are left in exceed was never our forte after Moggi.
The transition is objectively much harder.
And it showed, we got two offensive wingers, one real defensive wingback, converted our SS into a CAM And are now left with a huge excess of CAMs, mostly defensive orientated. The Bonucci+dalves sales helped us clear a possible starter CB and offensive right winger excess.
And we are now a new team.
Sandro has the quality and the youth to adjust in a more defensive role, Asamoah is back on theory and de Sciglio can play left in theory, so we are covered in theory. Licht was always solid defensively and de Sciglio too.
So the main questionmark remain the 3 AMFs Pjaca, Mandzukic and Cuadrado can offer adept cover, our two main acquisitions are two dedicated players for that job, that will eventually become our starters there.
DCosta is destined to become our AML and Bernardeschi is destined to become our starter AMR.
And is left to settle is Dybala, imo he is not that good as a CAM And that was proven in the final, vs serious competition, however he is young and talented enough to adapt and Ace that position, which is going to be extremely important as it will set up our most scoring chances.
When Dybala, will be injured/rested/suspended there is going to be the need for a subber able to offer very performance on such a crucial role!
Bernardeschi and Pjanic could be trained to offer good enough services there, but not when they will be starting as DM and AMR! Those are starters on other positions, they will master their new roles hopefully and it's unrealistic to expect for them to be good cam subs if they are not invested in this role.
That's why I said that we need to have a dedicated subber for that role. We can convert Pjaca, or buy a dedicated sub CAM And sell some of our sub DMs that lay in excess...
PS Osman, I know that you can be a prick and focus on personal insults, but I also know that you can be reasonable and answer with arguments. We have ahead of a season a new season , with new faces and new roles, we have seen a couple of matches with this new core. After a few months, we will inevitably have a better view about our needs and strengths, why is it bad to discuss about our current status untill then? We have different views and different visions. Discussing them would give us a better access to a wider picture.
You know very well that i am always ready to explain my views in great details and civilized manner when someone asks me to, you don't have to provoke or please, just ask, it's a pleasure to talk about Juve with you!
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