Summer mercato thread 2017-18 (38 Viewers)

[il brutto]

Tough to compare defender performance in Serie A and the EPL. Just because Darmian hasn't been stellar at United, doesn't mean he won't be good with us. EPL systems are much less structured, with team defending being emphasized a lot less. Good 1v1 defenders excel in the EPL, while Serie A defenders need different attributes, such as concentration. Truth is that in Serie A, the backline is hardly ever exposed, while in the EPL those situations develop several times per game. As Modric said: "Juventus defenders are very good when in position but struggle in counter attacks". When defenders are drilled how to defend as a team and then flung into an open system where you're facing multiple 1v1s per game, that player will naturally not appear as solid.

The thing about the average EPL defending being less structured is true, but Darmian plays under Mourinho and Mourinho teams are very well structured in defense and Mou definitely emphasizes team defending over individualistic defending.

 

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[Osman]

Toñito Valencia is not average

As a fullback he is.

 

[zizinho]

As a fullback he is.

As a winger too

 

[il brutto]

As a fullback he is.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...f-the-year-award-at-manchester-united.aspx?AL

 

[Osman]

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...f-the-year-award-at-manchester-united.aspx?AL

They have very low standards, but he is very likeable guy tho. And I really liked him as a winger, underrated, even if he is too much of a straight line type of winger, he did his work with gunlazing effort.


It also helps he is identical to a young black MJ

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As a winger too

Nah he was real good as winger

 

[italiacalcio10]

The thing about the average EPL defending being less structured is true, but Darmian plays under Mourinho and Mourinho teams are very well structured in defense and Mou definitely emphasizes team defending over individualistic defending.

That's fair. Less of a contrast than the Spurs for example, but I'd still be hesitant to write off a player based on their EPL performance. Not saying I'm convinced by him either.

 

[il brutto]

They have very low standards, but he is very likeable guy tho. And I really liked him as a winger, underrated, even if he is too much of a straight line type of winger, he did his work with gunlazing effort.


It also helps he is identical to a young black MJ

He was quite good last season to be fair. Mourinho has a good track-record of making full-backs perform better and that happened again with Valencia.

 

[Collaguazo]

He does look like a young MJ.

 

[il brutto]

That's fair. Less of a contrast than the Spurs for example, but I'd still be hesitant to write off a player based on their EPL performance. Not saying I'm convinced by him either.

 

[zizinho]

They have very low standards, but he is very likeable guy tho. And I really liked him as a winger, underrated, even if he is too much of a straight line type of winger, he did his work with gunlazing effort.


It also helps he is identical to a young black MJ

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Nah he was real good as winger

Its what you said in the 1st part of your post, straight line type of winger. Wonder how he would do against an organized defensive team that doesent leave much space behind. I do like his effort he puts in every game, but i think hed best be used as a RWB, not as much defensive responsibilities and a player infront him that can create space for his runs

 

[Dostoevsky]

what a failure he was.

i always wondered what does he says here though

mrs, jebem te u usta
mrs picka ti materina

sorry but that's very hard to translate cause it would sound google translate-ish

 

[zizinho]

Give it a try

 

[Dostoevsky]

fuck off/go away, I'll fuck your mouth

fuck off, ... this is impossible materina = (of your) mother, picka = pussy

 

[dann10]

Although probably fake, TuttoJuve are saying Danilo is virtually done and wants to play with Sandro again to revive his career. Makes little sense if Sandro is close to leaving though.

And Spinnazola and Asa staying doesn't mean Sandro 100% leaves. Asa could be used as CM if Lemina is sold to the EPL or Rincon is used in Bernardeschi's deal.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Imagine having a chance to sign Darmian, DS yet they want to give 15m to Real for Danilo who was complete disaster for madrid

 

[DanielSz]

Imagine having a chance to sign Darmian, DS yet they want to give 15m to Real for Danilo who was complete disaster for madrid

Danilo at his best is better than either of those guys at their best. It's a risk, but the reward is higher.

 

[kao_ray]

Besides we'll probably get DeS on a free

 

[rakib567]

Bernardeschi + Danilo > Cuadrado + Alves > D.Costa + Darmian/MDS

 

[Osman]

Although probably fake, TuttoJuve are saying Danilo is virtually done and wants to play with Sandro again to revive his career. Makes little sense if Sandro is close to leaving though.

And Spinnazola and Asa staying doesn't mean Sandro 100% leaves. Asa could be used as CM if Lemina is sold to the EPL or Rincon is used in Bernardeschi's deal.

Asa days as CM is done. Too shook and weak under pressure centrally.


Spinazzola signing doesn't have me worried as in meaning Sandro leaves, but if we sell Asa it defenitely would mean for me we aren't looking to sell him.

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[Orgut]

Bernardeschi + Danilo > Cuadrado + Alves > D.Costa + Darmian/MDS

I dont know about this - Danilo is a gamble while Bernardeschi is just a good talented player its not as he is a mega star...
Alves did great here while Cuad has his on and off... D.Costa is very underrated here IMO while Im not ecstatic about Darmian or MDS